The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.
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@emily_s No, Conservatives want things to remain the same because they control them, change threatens that control. You want to control any changes you make, that is different.
@aadeacon But I do currently control my computer, and I want to retain that control... I do not want someone else to take away the control I already have over my things
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The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.
@neil I am very concearned about age verification on OS level thing thats on the talks lately. So i am NOT trying to under estimate this threath, ok. Still i have a total noob question here: how could that ever be enforcable?
Somodoby just goes "fuck that!" Makes a linux distro that does not ask any of that shit and puts it out for free.
How can this effect those users?
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The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.
@neil Every time I login to Windows using a stupid pin code it makes me fume. It's my fucking computer! I just want to switch it on and start work
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The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.
@neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk how else will they monitor everything that you do?
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@neil Every time I login to Windows using a stupid pin code it makes me fume. It's my fucking computer! I just want to switch it on and start work
@janeishly @neil What happens when somebody you don’t want to use your computer turns it on though?
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The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.
@neil Yeah. Stupid, dangerous, nefarious.
Yet it doesn’t limit that. It’s overtlly an impediment for using somebody else’s service, running on somebody else’s computer.
Autonomy was lost when taking the “cloud” bait and falling into the “cloud” trap. This is just a post-battle mop up.
The hidden agenda is, of course, totalitarian repression. But still, you get to do whatever you want with your thing, and only your thing, as long as it doesn’t touch others. Fire up that compiler!
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@neil Every time I login to Windows using a stupid pin code it makes me fume. It's my fucking computer! I just want to switch it on and start work
theres no option to log in without password on windows these days?
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Perhaps I am some kind of dangerous computer radical these days, thinking that one should be able to buy or make a computer, install one's choice of OSs and software, create a local user account, and get on with one's affairs, privately and without interference.
Quiet enjoyment of one's computer.
* No age or ID verification
* No jumping through hoops to install software, or third parties restricting the software that one can run
* No third party accounts
Give the world's dangerous slight into extreme right politics, and fascism, using your computer like it's 1999 is seen as radical and anarchist.
Welcome to being radical and anarchist by being the same socialist you were in 1999
Edit: If you think Windows is bad, try setting up a Mac without linking your identity to the device.
Pro Tip: Buy the device with cash and never give the salesperson your email address or mobile number. Good Luck
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The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.
@neil it already started with the online and cloud based approach for almost anything
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The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.
@neil @revk I think we should ask what ownership even means today. If I buy a device but can only use it under imposed conditions, like mandatory ID or age checks, do I truly own it? Or is it becoming conditional possession, where key rights no longer lie with the owner? The real issue is whether lawmakers are gradually replacing true ownership with a regulated model of use.
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@neil There is exactly one person who gets to decide what happens in my computer. Me.
If you want to run things in my world, you play by my rules and only my rules.
Wait Shit. Am I'm turning in to a conservative, I want things to remain how they were twenty years ago... Is this is what they meant about getting more conservative when you get older?
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Perhaps I am some kind of dangerous computer radical these days, thinking that one should be able to buy or make a computer, install one's choice of OSs and software, create a local user account, and get on with one's affairs, privately and without interference.
Quiet enjoyment of one's computer.
* No age or ID verification
* No jumping through hoops to install software, or third parties restricting the software that one can run
* No third party accounts
@neil fwiw this should also apply to phones
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@neil it already started with the online and cloud based approach for almost anything
@giuseppegv @neil
I call it Netflix envy.
When Netflix was at its growth height, generating larger and larger monthly revenue streams CEO's in multiple sectors said "how can we do that our business?".
The era of outright ownership of anything slowly started coming to an end. -
@neil fwiw this should also apply to phones
@Tak Yes, computers.
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The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.
@neil @lisamelton unless you live on private island of course
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The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.
Can say that again indeed...
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Perhaps I am some kind of dangerous computer radical these days, thinking that one should be able to buy or make a computer, install one's choice of OSs and software, create a local user account, and get on with one's affairs, privately and without interference.
Quiet enjoyment of one's computer.
* No age or ID verification
* No jumping through hoops to install software, or third parties restricting the software that one can run
* No third party accounts
@neil exactly this, which is what we all did last millennium and even several years into this one. Its shocking how fast that went away.
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@aadeacon But I do currently control my computer, and I want to retain that control... I do not want someone else to take away the control I already have over my things
conservatism in my opinion is about “keeping the systems that control others in place”.
This sounds like you wanting to keep control over your systems in place.
Similar sounding, but completely different.
A 2018 comment by one Frank Wilthoit defined conservatism sublimely:
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:
There must be in-groups whom the law protect[s] but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
https://crookedtimber.org/2018/03/21/liberals-against-progressives/#comment-729288
