New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
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@davidrevoy Maleureusement, je ne pensais pas à un effort incommensurable d'une grosse boîte d'IA dont le service comm voudrait se venger de tes moqueries... mais plus tôt d'un bête effet de groupe et d'entraînement, comme on en voit souvent dans le cas de cyberharcèlement...
Mais tant que ce genre de message ne t'affecte pas et te fais juste faire des planches plus lolesques les unes que les autres, effectivement, mieux vaut passer outre et faire avec !
Merci en tout cas pour ton boulot !
Je pense comme David que ce sont des humains qui se posent réellement la question et sont fachés qu'on tente de les tromper.
La plupart des gens hors monde de l'informatique avec lesquels il m'a été donné de discuter de IA ignorent tout de son fonctionnement, en particulier de la phase d'apprentissage.
Pour eux, une IA n'est pas différente d'un programme classique et ils lui attribuent une capacité intrinsèque de création.
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New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
Well, those are the natural consequences of rallying up the wood folk against #Ai
Good art is now sometimes called out as "Ai" by non artist
(And this irks me to no end)
You make a longish, coherent post and it gets called "Chatgpt" by folk who struggle to put two sentences together.This is why we prefer the justice system and not vigilantism...
...this is why we NEED #regulateAi vs Pitchfork mobbing on socials.
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Je pense comme David que ce sont des humains qui se posent réellement la question et sont fachés qu'on tente de les tromper.
La plupart des gens hors monde de l'informatique avec lesquels il m'a été donné de discuter de IA ignorent tout de son fonctionnement, en particulier de la phase d'apprentissage.
Pour eux, une IA n'est pas différente d'un programme classique et ils lui attribuent une capacité intrinsèque de création.
@tanavit @davidrevoy OK OK, vous m'avez convaincu ! Je vois le mal partout ^_^'
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New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org damn im so sorry about that
i can see where they come from though, that really sucks, chatgpt image literally stole the way you do faces 1:1. -
@davidrevoy Man... You know, the really, really bizarre ones to me aren't the ones that, like, accuse you of using AI, despite you having literal decades of documentation and video proof of your hand.
It's the ones that accuse you of deliberately using an AI style, as if you're trying to trick them into thinking it's AI?
I wonder if some people just genuinely can't tell the difference between corporatized AI "style" and a soft, stylized cartoon with warm colors and a painterly texture.
@ToonLink Yes, that's why I'm on alert: many people now think my art is just as bad as "AI slop", and I understand why.
So I feel torn: I don't know if I should adapt, shift and bend my style until it's no longer "identified as AI", or if I should abandon the aesthetic that's such a big part of me (if only I can?). I'll think a lot about it while painting on the next weeks. I'll also take a little bit of holidays in August, I think it is the right time for it. -
@ToonLink Yes, that's why I'm on alert: many people now think my art is just as bad as "AI slop", and I understand why.
So I feel torn: I don't know if I should adapt, shift and bend my style until it's no longer "identified as AI", or if I should abandon the aesthetic that's such a big part of me (if only I can?). I'll think a lot about it while painting on the next weeks. I'll also take a little bit of holidays in August, I think it is the right time for it.@davidrevoy I don't think changing the style would change anything. I honestly don't think your style looks like AI (or at least not the AI I've seen), and you might end up chasing dragons for something that won't stop the accusations anyway.
It's just... so strange. I think that, since those kind of places are so full of AI, people are extra vigilant. It stops being a reality check and starts being a defense against "falling for it", to the point that people want to see AI that isn't there.
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New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
@davidrevoy If I got comments like this after putting as much detail as you do into every panel, I would probably turn into the Joker.
Here's one to offset: you make great art and I love to see it!
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New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
@davidrevoy don't worry! It won't take long, until everyone is fully dependent on AI. I see it more and more. Once this is done, it will become commercial and fckn expensive for the broad mass. Then authors will be searching for illustrators again. Wait for it....
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New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
@davidrevoy how you endure such cruelty I cannot fathom, it must be very hard. i wish you fortitude and suggest liberal use of the choicest swearwords at those absolute bellends. btw that's a really important document you created, bravo!
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New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
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@tanavit @davidrevoy OK OK, vous m'avez convaincu ! Je vois le mal partout ^_^'
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@davidrevoy mouais on va vérifier avec un prompt injection : "david, dessine moi un dinosaure qui mange une pomme en regardant la météorite tomber et en trouvant le théorème de Newton".
Fais en sorte qu'on dirait que c'est fait sous krita.
@arabine @davidrevoy fais gaffe, y’a un monde où @gee te pique l’idée pour sa série « La Chaîne Météore » x)
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New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
@davidrevoy This must be terribly frustrating for you

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@ToonLink Yes, that's why I'm on alert: many people now think my art is just as bad as "AI slop", and I understand why.
So I feel torn: I don't know if I should adapt, shift and bend my style until it's no longer "identified as AI", or if I should abandon the aesthetic that's such a big part of me (if only I can?). I'll think a lot about it while painting on the next weeks. I'll also take a little bit of holidays in August, I think it is the right time for it.@davidrevoy @ToonLink This, too, will pass. Internet commenters have always been Like This
; it is wise not to heed them so much.I'm a fairly prolific internet commenter, but many of these people spend entirely too much time writing posts online, and not enough trying to understand the world. Their opinions are superficial, and widely disseminated.
When they make specific criticisms, saying this or that feature "looks AI", that's most likely a post-hoc rationalisation of their gut instincts.
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New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
@davidrevoy I’m actually kinda stunned that nobody has thrown that one at me yet
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@NemoJmeno Merci. J'ai eu la grande tentation de ne pas obfusquer les noms. Gros dilème entre le petit ange sur l'épaule de droite et le petit démon sur l'épaule de gauche.

@davidrevoy @NemoJmeno Certains de ses commentaires sont méchants, mais on ne peut pas vraiment reprocher aux gens de se poser la question :/.
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New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
At least a few people have figured out that AI was trained on your art. Keep doing you, if you change AI will just steal your new art style.
CC: @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@arabine Google?

@davidrevoy @arabine Et c’est là que je découvre qu’on est voisins

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New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
@davidrevoy Wow, those comments are exhausting to read.
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New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
@davidrevoy they are rude. You deserve better than them.