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  3. The #gitea developers concluded after 10 years that it is not able to host its own development and that they depend on #GitHub.

The #gitea developers concluded after 10 years that it is not able to host its own development and that they depend on #GitHub.

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  • davidak@chaos.socialD davidak@chaos.social

    The #gitea developers concluded after 10 years that it is not able to host its own development and that they depend on #GitHub.

    https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1029#issuecomment-4269181192

    At the same time, the community fork @forgejo is self-hosted for a long time and is also powering the popular @Codeberg and at least 8 other public instances. So this seem to be a good time to migrate if you haven't already.

    https://forgejo.org

    nik@toot.teckids.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
    nik@toot.teckids.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
    nik@toot.teckids.org
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    #4

    @davidak @forgejo @Codeberg

    It's good for any project to be well-known for something. Even if it's being the most embarassing example for not eating your own dogfood, I guess.

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    • davidak@chaos.socialD davidak@chaos.social

      The #gitea developers concluded after 10 years that it is not able to host its own development and that they depend on #GitHub.

      https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1029#issuecomment-4269181192

      At the same time, the community fork @forgejo is self-hosted for a long time and is also powering the popular @Codeberg and at least 8 other public instances. So this seem to be a good time to migrate if you haven't already.

      https://forgejo.org

      cinebox@masto.hackers.townC This user is from outside of this forum
      cinebox@masto.hackers.townC This user is from outside of this forum
      cinebox@masto.hackers.town
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      #5

      @davidak @forgejo “we can’t use Gitea because no AI. Also our server keeps going down from the AI crawlers” bruh

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      • dan@axillae.telent.netD dan@axillae.telent.net

        @davidak @forgejo @Codeberg although not nearly as good a time as two years ago would have been, back when the database schema were still compatible. Oh well ...

        ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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        ratsnakegames@mastodon.social
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        #6

        @dan @davidak @forgejo @Codeberg my strategy of never updating anything keeps paying dividends

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        • davidak@chaos.socialD davidak@chaos.social

          The #gitea developers concluded after 10 years that it is not able to host its own development and that they depend on #GitHub.

          https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1029#issuecomment-4269181192

          At the same time, the community fork @forgejo is self-hosted for a long time and is also powering the popular @Codeberg and at least 8 other public instances. So this seem to be a good time to migrate if you haven't already.

          https://forgejo.org

          avghelper@gts.average.nameA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @davidak @forgejo @Codeberg

          "The gap between GitHub and Gitea is larger and larger (including various AI powers). ... Another challenge is the server stability ... due to AI crawlers"

          interesting.

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          • nik@toot.teckids.orgN nik@toot.teckids.org

            @davidak @forgejo @Codeberg

            It's good for any project to be well-known for something. Even if it's being the most embarassing example for not eating your own dogfood, I guess.

            claudius@darmstadt.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
            claudius@darmstadt.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
            claudius@darmstadt.social
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            #8

            @nik @davidak @forgejo @Codeberg god you said it so much better than whatever I had in my mind. Why would I trust a project-team that apparently does not even trust its own creation enough to use it?

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            • davidak@chaos.socialD davidak@chaos.social

              The #gitea developers concluded after 10 years that it is not able to host its own development and that they depend on #GitHub.

              https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1029#issuecomment-4269181192

              At the same time, the community fork @forgejo is self-hosted for a long time and is also powering the popular @Codeberg and at least 8 other public instances. So this seem to be a good time to migrate if you haven't already.

              https://forgejo.org

              blahajj@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
              blahajj@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
              blahajj@mastodon.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #9

              @davidak lol

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              • davidak@chaos.socialD davidak@chaos.social

                The #gitea developers concluded after 10 years that it is not able to host its own development and that they depend on #GitHub.

                https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1029#issuecomment-4269181192

                At the same time, the community fork @forgejo is self-hosted for a long time and is also powering the popular @Codeberg and at least 8 other public instances. So this seem to be a good time to migrate if you haven't already.

                https://forgejo.org

                moepman@social.troll.academyM This user is from outside of this forum
                moepman@social.troll.academyM This user is from outside of this forum
                moepman@social.troll.academy
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                #10

                @davidak I would swap gitea for @forgejo right now if there was a documented way to migrate that is not ever user has to move every repo on its own.

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                • davidak@chaos.socialD davidak@chaos.social

                  The #gitea developers concluded after 10 years that it is not able to host its own development and that they depend on #GitHub.

                  https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1029#issuecomment-4269181192

                  At the same time, the community fork @forgejo is self-hosted for a long time and is also powering the popular @Codeberg and at least 8 other public instances. So this seem to be a good time to migrate if you haven't already.

                  https://forgejo.org

                  abekonge@venner.networkA This user is from outside of this forum
                  abekonge@venner.networkA This user is from outside of this forum
                  abekonge@venner.network
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #11

                  @davidak this is ironic

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                  • davidak@chaos.socialD davidak@chaos.social

                    The #gitea developers concluded after 10 years that it is not able to host its own development and that they depend on #GitHub.

                    https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1029#issuecomment-4269181192

                    At the same time, the community fork @forgejo is self-hosted for a long time and is also powering the popular @Codeberg and at least 8 other public instances. So this seem to be a good time to migrate if you haven't already.

                    https://forgejo.org

                    compfu@mograph.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #12

                    @davidak @forgejo We're using gitea at work. I didn't know about forgejo back when I picked it.
                    Do you know if there is a way to import gitea's database of issues and pull requests into forgejo?

                    (If this is something I can easily look up myself, please let me know.)

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                    • davidak@chaos.socialD davidak@chaos.social

                      The #gitea developers concluded after 10 years that it is not able to host its own development and that they depend on #GitHub.

                      https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1029#issuecomment-4269181192

                      At the same time, the community fork @forgejo is self-hosted for a long time and is also powering the popular @Codeberg and at least 8 other public instances. So this seem to be a good time to migrate if you haven't already.

                      https://forgejo.org

                      feld@friedcheese.usF This user is from outside of this forum
                      feld@friedcheese.usF This user is from outside of this forum
                      feld@friedcheese.us
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                      #13
                      @davidak @forgejo @Codeberg disingenuous. They want some Github-specific features and to not have to deal with hosting infrastructure because they're developers not sysadmins/network engineers.

                      meanwhile Codeberg has had several DDoS/AI-crawler related outages. 4 months ago they were only hitting a 90% uptime... so I guess they're comparable to Github in that respect

                      but also it's hard to take their hosting infra seriously when they do stupid stuff like make their status page a subdomain of codeberg.org. This is a big nono, you always host your status page on a completely separate domain and ideally on a different Autonomous System
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                      • compfu@mograph.socialC compfu@mograph.social

                        @davidak @forgejo We're using gitea at work. I didn't know about forgejo back when I picked it.
                        Do you know if there is a way to import gitea's database of issues and pull requests into forgejo?

                        (If this is something I can easily look up myself, please let me know.)

                        mahlzahn@nerdculture.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        mahlzahn@nerdculture.de
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                        #14

                        RE: https://floss.social/@forgejo/116441502237665413

                        @compfu @davidak @forgejo

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                        • moepman@social.troll.academyM moepman@social.troll.academy

                          @davidak I would swap gitea for @forgejo right now if there was a documented way to migrate that is not ever user has to move every repo on its own.

                          mahlzahn@nerdculture.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          mahlzahn@nerdculture.de
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                          #15

                          RE: https://floss.social/@forgejo/116441502237665413

                          @MoepMan @davidak @forgejo

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                          • cinebox@masto.hackers.townC cinebox@masto.hackers.town

                            @davidak @forgejo “we can’t use Gitea because no AI. Also our server keeps going down from the AI crawlers” bruh

                            gedankenstuecke@scholar.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            gedankenstuecke@scholar.social
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                            #16

                            @cinebox @davidak @forgejo lol, stumbled over that part ass well, don't even seem to see the irony in that!

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                            • feld@friedcheese.usF This user is from outside of this forum
                              feld@friedcheese.usF This user is from outside of this forum
                              feld@friedcheese.us
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                              #17
                              @mark22k ahh yes thx

                              codeberg.org and codeberg.eu are AS29670

                              status.codeberg.org and status.codeberg.eu are AS24940

                              so they put it on a separate AS which mitigates that problem but not a different domain

                              codeberg.org uses dnsowl.org

                              codeberg.eu uses gandi.net


                              so if DNS for one of those goes down, the status page goes down too...
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                              • feld@friedcheese.usF feld@friedcheese.us
                                @mark22k ahh yes thx

                                codeberg.org and codeberg.eu are AS29670

                                status.codeberg.org and status.codeberg.eu are AS24940

                                so they put it on a separate AS which mitigates that problem but not a different domain

                                codeberg.org uses dnsowl.org

                                codeberg.eu uses gandi.net


                                so if DNS for one of those goes down, the status page goes down too...
                                gusted@social.linux.pizzaG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #18

                                @feld@friedcheese.us @mark22k I'll propose internally to setup a mesh network of HAM radio's around the world that can broadcast the status of Codeberg's infrastructure.

                                If DNS goes down of codeberg.org and codeberg.eu, HAM radios are clearly the last reliable resort and there's clearly no bigger issues that Codeberg (or the world) would be facing at that time.

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