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  • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

    Brazil's authoritarian age verification law became active this month. It won't be implemented by GrapheneOS. Complying would require integrating a mandatory process for each user where a third party service checks government identification and confirms a match using the camera.

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    #3

    @GrapheneOS That seems like the right call to me. It looks like I may soon become an international lawbreaker because I'm not going back to Android.

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    • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

      It doesn't stop there. It would require keeping data for auditing and providing a token for connecting age verification checks by apps and websites to the data. The law is a privacy disaster and exposes minors to being exploited by leaking their age bracket to apps and websites.

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      #4

      @GrapheneOS

      is it a good idea to have a "age proxy" like the mechanism for filesystem access "spaces"?

      when an app doesn't run unless the OS tells it the user is id-verified, then grapheneOS could say yes, the user is, even if the user hasn't done the process because they don't want to risk their biometric information

      I'm no expert, just thinking aloud

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      • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

        It doesn't stop there. It would require keeping data for auditing and providing a token for connecting age verification checks by apps and websites to the data. The law is a privacy disaster and exposes minors to being exploited by leaking their age bracket to apps and websites.

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        #5

        GrapheneOS has no team members or operations in Brazil. São Paulo in Brazil is by far the biggest network hub within South America. Miami is also a major network hub for South America and is currently where our update server is for South America since it's dramatically cheaper.

        murderkroger@fouroclockfarms.clubM grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG 2 Replies Last reply
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        • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

          GrapheneOS has no team members or operations in Brazil. São Paulo in Brazil is by far the biggest network hub within South America. Miami is also a major network hub for South America and is currently where our update server is for South America since it's dramatically cheaper.

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          #6

          @GrapheneOS interesting how a north american city such as Miami can serve as a network hub for south america. Geopolitics are an intricate yet interesting thing

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          • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

            GrapheneOS has no team members or operations in Brazil. São Paulo in Brazil is by far the biggest network hub within South America. Miami is also a major network hub for South America and is currently where our update server is for South America since it's dramatically cheaper.

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            #7

            We have a tiny VPS in São Paulo for our ns1 anycast DNS and a second for our website/network services. It probably isn't an issue and those can be removed if necessary. Santiago could be added for both instead but wouldn't work very well as a replacement for having São Paulo.

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            • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

              We have a tiny VPS in São Paulo for our ns1 anycast DNS and a second for our website/network services. It probably isn't an issue and those can be removed if necessary. Santiago could be added for both instead but wouldn't work very well as a replacement for having São Paulo.

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              #8

              There aren't yet devices supporting GrapheneOS directly sold in South America. Brazil in particular has unusually high import duties/taxes which add up to around 100%. This has resulted in us not having a lot of users there but our Motorola partnership will start changing this.

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              • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                We have a tiny VPS in São Paulo for our ns1 anycast DNS and a second for our website/network services. It probably isn't an issue and those can be removed if necessary. Santiago could be added for both instead but wouldn't work very well as a replacement for having São Paulo.

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                #9

                @GrapheneOS

                Could you share more infos about when and involved modells which this collaboration will start with?

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                • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                  Brazil's authoritarian age verification law became active this month. It won't be implemented by GrapheneOS. Complying would require integrating a mandatory process for each user where a third party service checks government identification and confirms a match using the camera.

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                  #10
                  @GrapheneOS >Complying would require integrating a mandatory process for each user where a third party service checks government identification and confirms a match using the camera.
                  that's sick. this is the absolute break of any privacy and this should be avoided by all software developers.
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                  • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                    It doesn't stop there. It would require keeping data for auditing and providing a token for connecting age verification checks by apps and websites to the data. The law is a privacy disaster and exposes minors to being exploited by leaking their age bracket to apps and websites.

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                    #11

                    @GrapheneOS Photo matching is going to be interesting in a country where plastic surgery is so popular.

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                    • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                      Brazil's authoritarian age verification law became active this month. It won't be implemented by GrapheneOS. Complying would require integrating a mandatory process for each user where a third party service checks government identification and confirms a match using the camera.

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                      #12
                      @GrapheneOS @lxo
                      looks llike Brasilian government requirements to software are much worse than we expected.
                      this is not just a breaking privacy for some third-party service, it's deanonimizing and tracking users by whatever sites and servers in an unknown circle.
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                      • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                        There aren't yet devices supporting GrapheneOS directly sold in South America. Brazil in particular has unusually high import duties/taxes which add up to around 100%. This has resulted in us not having a lot of users there but our Motorola partnership will start changing this.

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                        #13

                        @GrapheneOS Really? Will you be selling out-of-the-box grapheneOS devices in Brazil?

                        That's where i live!

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                        • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                          Brazil's authoritarian age verification law became active this month. It won't be implemented by GrapheneOS. Complying would require integrating a mandatory process for each user where a third party service checks government identification and confirms a match using the camera.

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                          #14

                          @GrapheneOS What about instead of responding to the age bracket by providing a age bracket, you could provide back string that just says ñao ñao amigao?

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                          • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                            Brazil's authoritarian age verification law became active this month. It won't be implemented by GrapheneOS. Complying would require integrating a mandatory process for each user where a third party service checks government identification and confirms a match using the camera.

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                            #15

                            @GrapheneOS why are you so based?

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