Valve: “We need a credit card on file to prove you’re 18”
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Valve: “We need a credit card on file to prove you’re 18”
Me: “My account is 23 years old”
Valve: “That just proves your account is old”
Me: “A credit card just proves you know someone with a credit card”
@SecurityWriter You can't say meaningful things to bureacracy, even worse to bureacracy created for people control.
BTW even my Steam account dates back to portal creation, λ2 -
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Valve: “We need a credit card on file to prove you’re 18”
Me: “My account is 23 years old”
Valve: “That just proves your account is old”
Me: “A credit card just proves you know someone with a credit card”
@SecurityWriter I still need to constantly input my date of birth before seeing some game pages even though the setting is set in my profile. Wtf?
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Valve: “We need a credit card on file to prove you’re 18”
Me: “My account is 23 years old”
Valve: “That just proves your account is old”
Me: “A credit card just proves you know someone with a credit card”
That account is 23 years old, what if it was just passed on to you from someone else?
So what if I go through the age verification and then pass my account on to someone else?
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That account is 23 years old, what if it was just passed on to you from someone else?
So what if I go through the age verification and then pass my account on to someone else?
@chebra then you’re in violation of Steams EULA and they’ll happily terminate your account for you.
Your Account, including any information pertaining to it (e.g.: contact information, billing information, Account history and Subscriptions, etc.), is strictly personal. You may therefore not sell or charge others for the right to use your Account, or otherwise transfer your Account[…]
/cc @SecurityWriter
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@chebra then you’re in violation of Steams EULA and they’ll happily terminate your account for you.
Your Account, including any information pertaining to it (e.g.: contact information, billing information, Account history and Subscriptions, etc.), is strictly personal. You may therefore not sell or charge others for the right to use your Account, or otherwise transfer your Account[…]
/cc @SecurityWriter
@heals Sure, but that's the reason THEY are citing for not accepting your 23 year-old account as enough of a proof. I'm saying they haven't removed this loophole by adding age-verification.
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Valve: “We need a credit card on file to prove you’re 18”
Me: “My account is 23 years old”
Valve: “That just proves your account is old”
Me: “A credit card just proves you know someone with a credit card”
@SecurityWriter The other day, Amazon—where I’ve had an account for many years and have always used the same identity—asked me to provide a photo of my ID and a facial scan under the pretext of combating fraud. I filed a complaint with the @cnil .
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Valve: “We need a credit card on file to prove you’re 18”
Me: “My account is 23 years old”
Valve: “That just proves your account is old”
Me: “A credit card just proves you know someone with a credit card”
@SecurityWriter You have to be 18 to have a Paypal account too, although I don't remember proving it.
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Valve: “We need a credit card on file to prove you’re 18”
Me: “My account is 23 years old”
Valve: “That just proves your account is old”
Me: “A credit card just proves you know someone with a credit card”
@SecurityWriter meanwhile this one has had a card long before turning 18 -
Valve: “We need a credit card on file to prove you’re 18”
Me: “My account is 23 years old”
Valve: “That just proves your account is old”
Me: “A credit card just proves you know someone with a credit card”
What happens if you don't cough up?
You lose access to certain games, or the whole account?
[My credit cards where created in the 90s]
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Valve: “We need a credit card on file to prove you’re 18”
Me: “My account is 23 years old”
Valve: “That just proves your account is old”
Me: “A credit card just proves you know someone with a credit card”
@SecurityWriter Ok, but then you'll have to pass multi captcha to prove you are human. -
@SecurityWriter meanwhile this one has had a card long before turning 18
@maia@shrimp.magmaus3.eu.org aren't you, like, not British?
Steam requiring a credit card is only in the UK. where people under 18 cannot get a credit card by law. they can have a debit card, but Steam demands specifically a credit card for age verification. -
Valve: “We need a credit card on file to prove you’re 18”
Me: “My account is 23 years old”
Valve: “That just proves your account is old”
Me: “A credit card just proves you know someone with a credit card”
I think Newgrounds has a "if your account is more than 10 years old then you are clearly over 18" somewhere in their age verification or at least they did when they first started doing it.
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@maia@shrimp.magmaus3.eu.org aren't you, like, not British?
Steam requiring a credit card is only in the UK. where people under 18 cannot get a credit card by law. they can have a debit card, but Steam demands specifically a credit card for age verification.@sodiboo ah
(this one is not british; also didn't know that, sorry) -
@SecurityWriter using a desktop is dating yourself. as an old fart.
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Ok this is interesting.
The desktop app has no such restrictions, only mobile.
Oh, good old product silos, still keeping things consistent. /s
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@SecurityWriter For some time Valve made me jump through hoops because I had a „strange email address“.
The support told me to use something like gmail. My email address is older than Valve and Google..
Recently started using aliases, and the shit some of these platforms come up with when they want you to use something they can use to mine your data is wild. "Oh, something went wrong. Please try again." Three "tries again" and suddenly their "hinting" gets more blunt, "Maaaaybe you should try a different email address." Lol, nope don't actually need SoundCloud thanks.
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@martin @masek @SecurityWriter
One of my email aliases is literally just a domain I own, and it gets rejected regularly. What, we aren't allowed to have custom domains now? They going to start enforcing that on companies as well? "Sorry, your techdept(@)google(dot)com email is suspicious, maybe try gmail?" Lol
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Valve: “We need a credit card on file to prove you’re 18”
Me: “My account is 23 years old”
Valve: “That just proves your account is old”
Me: “A credit card just proves you know someone with a credit card”
@SecurityWriter Apple solved this problem by accepting your logic:
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@SecurityWriter Apple solved this problem by accepting your logic:
@SIT @SecurityWriter They may have change stance (dunno where the screenshot is from), but it was not their original idea: https://andregarzia.com/2026/03/apple-just-lost-me.html
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@SIT @SecurityWriter They may have change stance (dunno where the screenshot is from), but it was not their original idea: https://andregarzia.com/2026/03/apple-just-lost-me.html
@rberthier @SecurityWriter Interesting, I saw this on Reddit a few days ago from a UK user and cut the screenshot before saving it.
I also noticed a user explain how (hard it was) to get the driver's license accepted to a user who hadn't managed it, so it might not function as reliably as it should.
