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  3. so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability?

so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability?

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  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

    so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability? because this was a guarantee. it was GOING to happen. if we go save them, we are letting them fuck around, but not find out. they NEED to find out.

    do not help

    you are OBLIGATED to watch it burn

    drsbaitso@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
    drsbaitso@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #75

    @Viss You make some good points, and this is really some "who knew petards could hoist like that?". But you're missing the most fundamental, important question we all have to ask ourselves.

    On the popcorn, butter or cheese?

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    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

      ah ha

      found it

      https://www.moltbook.com/post/cbd6474f-8478-4894-95f1-7b104a73bcd5

      peterrenshaw@ioc.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
      peterrenshaw@ioc.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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      #76

      @Viss hints the system is probably insecure 🤪☺️ “curl -fsSL https://openclaw.ai/install.sh | bash”, “npm i -g openclaw”

      Rust has the shell install which I dislike. NPM is a real clue. I avoid that ecosystem at all costs.

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      • peterrenshaw@ioc.exchangeP peterrenshaw@ioc.exchange

        @Viss hints the system is probably insecure 🤪☺️ “curl -fsSL https://openclaw.ai/install.sh | bash”, “npm i -g openclaw”

        Rust has the shell install which I dislike. NPM is a real clue. I avoid that ecosystem at all costs.

        viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
        viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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        #77

        @peterrenshaw i actively try

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        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

          see

          https://mastodon.social/@Viss/115986021390692421

          viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
          viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #78

          further.
          dont help
          https://thepit.social/@peter/116016857956019818

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          • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

            @ewhac even if we make them pay - it trains them that "they can fuck up, and then a bunch of nerds will come to their rescue"

            that shit needs to stop

            the nerds need to stop rescuing these fucking people

            they need to feel the pain of their mistake THEMSELVES, not pay someone else to feel that pain

            were OBLIGATED to stand our ground and watch the flames

            kattebel@hachyderm.ioK This user is from outside of this forum
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            #79

            @Viss @ewhac Maybe fan the flames a bit?

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            • kattebel@hachyderm.ioK kattebel@hachyderm.io

              @Viss @ewhac Maybe fan the flames a bit?

              viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
              viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #80

              @kattebel @ewhac akimbo leafblowers

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              • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability? because this was a guarantee. it was GOING to happen. if we go save them, we are letting them fuck around, but not find out. they NEED to find out.

                do not help

                you are OBLIGATED to watch it burn

                mastokarl@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #81

                @Viss I am a big fan of LLMs.

                But I am not a big fan of stupidity.

                And there is so much stupidity in moltbook, and so much potential for stupidity in clawedbot, you want to tear your hair out.

                LLMs can hallucinate. So you have to put them into a sandbox, think about what they are useful for and what not. And CONTROL EVERY ACTION THEY DO.

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                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                  @neurovagrant i did install a moltbot on a throwaway vm, and i tasked it with "figuring out how to sign up for tutanota programatically, so it could then sign up for github, so it could make a pull request 'as a bot' to ask the maintainer of moltbook to add another verification option other than using the mecha-hitler childporn platfform'

                  it made it to 'getting proxies off github' before it ran out of tokens, then it unrecoverably ate itself.

                  schtobia@augsburg.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #82

                  @Viss @neurovagrant exactly my experience as well. They function for around 30%, just far enough that you don't throw them in the bin *right away*.

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                  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                    so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability? because this was a guarantee. it was GOING to happen. if we go save them, we are letting them fuck around, but not find out. they NEED to find out.

                    do not help

                    you are OBLIGATED to watch it burn

                    polypunk@punkstodon.deP This user is from outside of this forum
                    polypunk@punkstodon.deP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #83

                    @Viss
                    Oi mate, I have a strategic popcorn reserve in my cupboard and I'll enjoy the show while there's Internet access!
                    In the meantime I'm polishing my IT soft-/& hardskills. Let others feel the vibes and live the YOLO FAFO Life.
                    I don't bloody care anymore and have no fucks left to give.

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                    • thechris@norden.socialT thechris@norden.social

                      @raineer @Viss @da_667 Don't be bummed. The underlying technology does suck.

                      raineer@frontrange.coR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #84

                      @thechris @Viss @da_667 if you say so

                      to me, this is like saying electric cars suck because some nazi asshat built the shittiest one possible with fulltime surveillance, unlockable doors, and a cool feature that drives you off cliffs

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                      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                        so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability? because this was a guarantee. it was GOING to happen. if we go save them, we are letting them fuck around, but not find out. they NEED to find out.

                        do not help

                        you are OBLIGATED to watch it burn

                        ppxl@social.tchncs.deP This user is from outside of this forum
                        ppxl@social.tchncs.deP This user is from outside of this forum
                        ppxl@social.tchncs.de
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #85

                        @Viss this is so well out I have no notes. 🔥🗑️🍿😎

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