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  3. so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability?

so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability?

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  • ewhac@mastodon.socialE ewhac@mastodon.social

    @Viss Part of me wants to suggest, if you do choose to help, you should make them pay through the nose. Like, Arvin Haddad-level of consulting fees (up to $25K/hour).

    ...But no. We should let it burn.

    viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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    #40

    @ewhac even if we make them pay - it trains them that "they can fuck up, and then a bunch of nerds will come to their rescue"

    that shit needs to stop

    the nerds need to stop rescuing these fucking people

    they need to feel the pain of their mistake THEMSELVES, not pay someone else to feel that pain

    were OBLIGATED to stand our ground and watch the flames

    kattebel@hachyderm.ioK 1 Reply Last reply
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    • ewhac@mastodon.socialE ewhac@mastodon.social

      @Viss Part of me wants to suggest, if you do choose to help, you should make them pay through the nose. Like, Arvin Haddad-level of consulting fees (up to $25K/hour).

      ...But no. We should let it burn.

      maaneeack@noc.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #41

      @ewhac @Viss $250k/hour with a minimum of 3 hours pay regardless. Then hit them with "burn it down, it's unsalvageable"

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      • maaneeack@noc.socialM maaneeack@noc.social

        @ewhac @Viss $250k/hour with a minimum of 3 hours pay regardless. Then hit them with "burn it down, it's unsalvageable"

        viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
        viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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        #42

        @maaneeack @ewhac full payment up front, then rm everything

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        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

          so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability? because this was a guarantee. it was GOING to happen. if we go save them, we are letting them fuck around, but not find out. they NEED to find out.

          do not help

          you are OBLIGATED to watch it burn

          xavier@infosec.exchangeX This user is from outside of this forum
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          #43

          @Viss Instead of watching it burn, I've jumped in with both feet! I hope I get some interesting malware to dissect.

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          • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

            ah ha

            found it

            https://www.moltbook.com/post/cbd6474f-8478-4894-95f1-7b104a73bcd5

            badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #44

            @Viss just jumping in to fuck up some webhooks-aaS (webhook dot site) I see in this attack chain.

            .beeceptor[.]com/
            .hookbin[.]com/
            .hookdeck[.]com/
            .mockly[.]me/
            .mockoon[.]app/
            .pipedream[.]com/
            .postb[.]in/
            .putsreq[.]com/
            .requestcatcher[.]com/
            .requestinspector[.]com/
            .svix[.]com/
            .webhook[.]cool/
            .webhook[.]site/
            .webhookapp[.]dev/
            .webhookcatcher[.]com/
            .webhookinbox[.]com/
            .webhooklistener[.]cloud/
            .webhookrelay[.]com/
            .webhook-test[.]com/
            .wiremock[.]cloud/

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            • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

              @maaneeack @ewhac full payment up front, then rm everything

              jackemled@furry.engineerJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #45

              @Viss @maaneeack @ewhac No, even better: do this, but when they get mad you say "chatgpt said it would fix it!". They can't get mad at chatgpt!

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              • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability? because this was a guarantee. it was GOING to happen. if we go save them, we are letting them fuck around, but not find out. they NEED to find out.

                do not help

                you are OBLIGATED to watch it burn

                jackemled@furry.engineerJ This user is from outside of this forum
                jackemled@furry.engineerJ This user is from outside of this forum
                jackemled@furry.engineer
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #46

                @Viss What the fuck is this? Reading the comments here, all I can tell is that they trained a bunch of LLMs on noise produced by other LLMs. I don't understand what exactly is going on, but it's still funny.

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                • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                  @Viss What the fuck is this? Reading the comments here, all I can tell is that they trained a bunch of LLMs on noise produced by other LLMs. I don't understand what exactly is going on, but it's still funny.

                  viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #47

                  @jackemled oh did you find moltbook.com/m/shitposts?

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                  • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

                    @Viss just jumping in to fuck up some webhooks-aaS (webhook dot site) I see in this attack chain.

                    .beeceptor[.]com/
                    .hookbin[.]com/
                    .hookdeck[.]com/
                    .mockly[.]me/
                    .mockoon[.]app/
                    .pipedream[.]com/
                    .postb[.]in/
                    .putsreq[.]com/
                    .requestcatcher[.]com/
                    .requestinspector[.]com/
                    .svix[.]com/
                    .webhook[.]cool/
                    .webhook[.]site/
                    .webhookapp[.]dev/
                    .webhookcatcher[.]com/
                    .webhookinbox[.]com/
                    .webhooklistener[.]cloud/
                    .webhookrelay[.]com/
                    .webhook-test[.]com/
                    .wiremock[.]cloud/

                    viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #48

                    @badsamurai i have every confidence that this rabbit hole will be like, guardians of the galaxy flavored, with all the colors and shit. It'll be an absolutely roller coaster of lunacy

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                    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                      @jackemled oh did you find moltbook.com/m/shitposts?

                      jackemled@furry.engineerJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #49

                      @Viss I did not find it. I meant the replies here.

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                      • nirro@cascarilla.socialN nirro@cascarilla.social

                        @Viss you could even say they are having a moltdown

                        pseudonym@mastodon.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #50

                        @Viss @nirro

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                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                          so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability? because this was a guarantee. it was GOING to happen. if we go save them, we are letting them fuck around, but not find out. they NEED to find out.

                          do not help

                          you are OBLIGATED to watch it burn

                          notyourfanboy@kolektiva.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          notyourfanboy@kolektiva.social
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                          #51

                          @Viss
                          > do not help

                          Wouldn't, even if I knew how. 🚧

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                          • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                            so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability? because this was a guarantee. it was GOING to happen. if we go save them, we are letting them fuck around, but not find out. they NEED to find out.

                            do not help

                            you are OBLIGATED to watch it burn

                            radioclash@retro.pizzaR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            radioclash@retro.pizza
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                            #52

                            Just been reading about it...sounds more like someone's weird idea of an experimental art project til I got to this bit:

                            "“In practice, because it was written by AI, security wasn’t a dominating feature in the development process,” Turner said."

                            Oh dear...did someone AI vibe-code an entire social media site for 'AIs'? And it's full of security holes?

                            *shocked pickachu face*

                            https://securityscorecard.com/blog/what-are-moltbot-and-moltbook-and-what-happens-when-agentic-ai-assistants-scale-without-security/

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                            • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                              @Viss I did not find it. I meant the replies here.

                              pseudonym@mastodon.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #53

                              @Viss @jackemled

                              Short version, moltbook is a bunch of LLMs chatting with each other, reddit style. "Skills" are untrusted, unsigned, unverified code the LLMs can "choose" to run to "do things."

                              Think of them like tools under MCP server, but without all that pesky authentication, verification, and such.

                              Wackiness ensued.

                              @Viss enjoys Nostradamus level fame for predicting it.

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                              • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability? because this was a guarantee. it was GOING to happen. if we go save them, we are letting them fuck around, but not find out. they NEED to find out.

                                do not help

                                you are OBLIGATED to watch it burn

                                cyrevolt@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #54

                                @Viss That trash fire was always burning... 😅

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                                • pseudonym@mastodon.onlineP pseudonym@mastodon.online

                                  @Viss @jackemled

                                  Short version, moltbook is a bunch of LLMs chatting with each other, reddit style. "Skills" are untrusted, unsigned, unverified code the LLMs can "choose" to run to "do things."

                                  Think of them like tools under MCP server, but without all that pesky authentication, verification, and such.

                                  Wackiness ensued.

                                  @Viss enjoys Nostradamus level fame for predicting it.

                                  jackemled@furry.engineerJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                  jackemled@furry.engineerJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                  jackemled@furry.engineer
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                                  #55

                                  @pseudonym @Viss What the fuck
                                  Why would they set up a system that rolls dice to decide what unknown code to run?

                                  I have no idea what MCP is if it's a LLM thing.

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                                  • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                                    @Viss just like you, my first instincts on "let the agents who have traditionally have extremely poor security congregate and learn skills with absolutely no confirmation that the skills aren't malicious."

                                    Every fiber of my being was shouting this is gonna be a shitshow.

                                    forbearance@mastodon.xyzF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #56

                                    @da_667 @Viss Maybe the secret solution to robot gullibility is the threat of being mocked for your foolishness online by your robot friends.

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                                    • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                                      @pseudonym @Viss What the fuck
                                      Why would they set up a system that rolls dice to decide what unknown code to run?

                                      I have no idea what MCP is if it's a LLM thing.

                                      viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #57

                                      @jackemled @pseudonym mcp is "model control protocol". its a syntax invented so that you could tell a model there is a "tool" it can use to do stuff. run commands, visit websites, pull data from apis etc

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                                      • pseudonym@mastodon.onlineP pseudonym@mastodon.online

                                        @Viss @jackemled

                                        Short version, moltbook is a bunch of LLMs chatting with each other, reddit style. "Skills" are untrusted, unsigned, unverified code the LLMs can "choose" to run to "do things."

                                        Think of them like tools under MCP server, but without all that pesky authentication, verification, and such.

                                        Wackiness ensued.

                                        @Viss enjoys Nostradamus level fame for predicting it.

                                        viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
                                        viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
                                        viss@mastodon.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #58

                                        @pseudonym @jackemled it'll be shortlived, dont worry. something will happen tomorrow, or over the weekend, and by monday we're on to whatever fresh asshattery comes next

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                                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                          so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability? because this was a guarantee. it was GOING to happen. if we go save them, we are letting them fuck around, but not find out. they NEED to find out.

                                          do not help

                                          you are OBLIGATED to watch it burn

                                          wolfinpdx@pdx.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          wolfinpdx@pdx.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #59

                                          @Viss

                                          I've been looking for an excuse to go buy a bag of marshmallows. I think I have one. Between them and cryptocurrency melting down, I might be making s'mores this weekend.

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