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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
    _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
    _elena@mastodon.social
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #1

    Dear Fedi friends,

    I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

    The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

    Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

    ainmosni@social.ainmosni.euA ed@livellosegreto.itE jonasjrichter@mastodon.pnpde.socialJ everton137@social.vivaldi.netE d1re_w0lf@mstdn.socialD 30 Replies Last reply
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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
      _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
      _elena@mastodon.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #2

      Dear Fedi friends,

      I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

      The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

      Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

      ainmosni@social.ainmosni.euA ed@livellosegreto.itE jonasjrichter@mastodon.pnpde.socialJ everton137@social.vivaldi.netE d1re_w0lf@mstdn.socialD 30 Replies Last reply
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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Dear Fedi friends,

        I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

        The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

        Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

        ainmosni@social.ainmosni.euA This user is from outside of this forum
        ainmosni@social.ainmosni.euA This user is from outside of this forum
        ainmosni@social.ainmosni.eu
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #3

        @_elena Maybe do it in phases, grab the domains just in case, and then add sites if W builds any steam at all? But if there's French media attention there, that time might already have come.

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          Dear Fedi friends,

          I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

          The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

          Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

          ed@livellosegreto.itE This user is from outside of this forum
          ed@livellosegreto.itE This user is from outside of this forum
          ed@livellosegreto.it
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #4

          @_elena I think that we need more "why/how you should join the Fediverse" rather than "why you should not use platform X, Y, W".

          We (as in: the internet) spoke loudly about why not using certain type of softwares and platform and it didn't really made a substantial difference.

          I think we need to focus on bringing people (and make them stay) here rather than scare them about another software or platform.

          palin@livellosegreto.itP juergen@hello.jyrgi.deJ lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.comL 3 Replies Last reply
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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            Dear Fedi friends,

            I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

            The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

            Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

            jonasjrichter@mastodon.pnpde.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
            jonasjrichter@mastodon.pnpde.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
            jonasjrichter@mastodon.pnpde.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #5

            @_elena Hard to say if it's worth it at this point. Maybe it lands on its face right away, but if it does receive attention and lots of actual people create accounts there, having information about that site would be useful.
            Does it need to be its own website in that case? Not sure.

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              Dear Fedi friends,

              I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

              The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

              Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

              everton137@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
              everton137@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
              everton137@social.vivaldi.net
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #6

              @_elena in my opinion, it's a waste of energy. I'd rather focus bringing more politicians here

              https://leavex.eu/politicians

              https://social.vivaldi.net/@everton137/115943237711423792

              naturemc@mastodon.onlineN 1 Reply Last reply
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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                Dear Fedi friends,

                I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                d1re_w0lf@mstdn.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                d1re_w0lf@mstdn.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                d1re_w0lf@mstdn.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #7

                @_elena It’s ironic that the supposed European alternative to X and the answer to independence from U.S. tech is… using “American” ATProto instead of “European” Mastodon.

                https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:xgvzy7ni6ig6ievcbls5jaxe/post/3mcxmdf7ma22z

                sturmsucht@mastodon.socialS 1 Reply Last reply
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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  Dear Fedi friends,

                  I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                  The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                  Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                  borisschapira@framapiaf.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
                  borisschapira@framapiaf.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
                  borisschapira@framapiaf.org
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #8

                  @_elena Press is often lazy. Coverage is often a matter of whether or not Press media received a ready-to-publish communicate. That's why most private orgs, with com teams, get covered while many communities and public-service associations are not.

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    Dear Fedi friends,

                    I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                    The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                    Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                    joakimfors@mastodon.greenJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    joakimfors@mastodon.greenJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    joakimfors@mastodon.green
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #9

                    @_elena Chaotic neutral: set up a masto/goto instance on a wsocial:ish domain 😈

                    _elena@mastodon.social_ 1 Reply Last reply
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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      Dear Fedi friends,

                      I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                      The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                      Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                      gabboman@gabboman.xyzG This user is from outside of this forum
                      gabboman@gabboman.xyzG This user is from outside of this forum
                      gabboman@gabboman.xyz
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #10

                      Host wafrns on them

                      FUN FACT wafrn does fedi and bsky so you would be givin a better service than default W and you could argue it was a wafrn reference wich is older than W social

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        Dear Fedi friends,

                        I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                        The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                        Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                        nopatience@swecyb.comN This user is from outside of this forum
                        nopatience@swecyb.comN This user is from outside of this forum
                        nopatience@swecyb.com
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #11

                        @_elena No, please don't. Spend your beautiful energy and time on building and contributing to what we already have.

                        Don't waste a second on deconstructing, arguing against stuff we don't control.

                        Make more videos like you did before, the Mastodon / Fediverse intro video. It was beautiful and awesome.

                        That's what you should do. Build, don't destroy.

                        nopatience@swecyb.comN everton137@social.vivaldi.netE angelomassaro@mastodon.socialA paul@misskey.ellidaf.ruP 4 Replies Last reply
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                        • joakimfors@mastodon.greenJ joakimfors@mastodon.green

                          @_elena Chaotic neutral: set up a masto/goto instance on a wsocial:ish domain 😈

                          _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                          _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                          _elena@mastodon.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #12

                          @joakimfors OMG this is BRILLIANT! 😂

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                          • ed@livellosegreto.itE ed@livellosegreto.it

                            @_elena I think that we need more "why/how you should join the Fediverse" rather than "why you should not use platform X, Y, W".

                            We (as in: the internet) spoke loudly about why not using certain type of softwares and platform and it didn't really made a substantial difference.

                            I think we need to focus on bringing people (and make them stay) here rather than scare them about another software or platform.

                            palin@livellosegreto.itP This user is from outside of this forum
                            palin@livellosegreto.itP This user is from outside of this forum
                            palin@livellosegreto.it
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #13

                            @ed @_elena I politely ask why not both? A centralized system could be better if there are no drawbacks. We know that there no such thing as a free lunch, so we should explain that on top of fediverse advantages.

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              Dear Fedi friends,

                              I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                              The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                              Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                              mensrea@freeradical.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
                              mensrea@freeradical.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
                              mensrea@freeradical.zone
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #14

                              @_elena they seem like great domains to start hosting fedi services. they go looking for euro-corp they find international co-op

                              mensrea@freeradical.zoneM 1 Reply Last reply
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                              • nopatience@swecyb.comN nopatience@swecyb.com

                                @_elena No, please don't. Spend your beautiful energy and time on building and contributing to what we already have.

                                Don't waste a second on deconstructing, arguing against stuff we don't control.

                                Make more videos like you did before, the Mastodon / Fediverse intro video. It was beautiful and awesome.

                                That's what you should do. Build, don't destroy.

                                nopatience@swecyb.comN This user is from outside of this forum
                                nopatience@swecyb.comN This user is from outside of this forum
                                nopatience@swecyb.com
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #15

                                @_elena Unless you can do both at the same time... then do both 😉

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                                • mensrea@freeradical.zoneM mensrea@freeradical.zone

                                  @_elena they seem like great domains to start hosting fedi services. they go looking for euro-corp they find international co-op

                                  mensrea@freeradical.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
                                  mensrea@freeradical.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
                                  mensrea@freeradical.zone
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #16

                                  @_elena what's known as guerrilla marketing

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                                  • palin@livellosegreto.itP palin@livellosegreto.it

                                    @ed @_elena I politely ask why not both? A centralized system could be better if there are no drawbacks. We know that there no such thing as a free lunch, so we should explain that on top of fediverse advantages.

                                    vonblubba@livellosegreto.itV This user is from outside of this forum
                                    vonblubba@livellosegreto.itV This user is from outside of this forum
                                    vonblubba@livellosegreto.it
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #17

                                    @palin Europe is finally taking steps toward independence from US IT infrastructure. It’s likely too little, too late, but it’s still a move in the right direction. While I appreciate the effort, I suspect the Fediverse might have been a better solution. That said, I cynically believe this initiative will fail miserably without much outside interference 😅 @ed @_elena

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                                    • nopatience@swecyb.comN nopatience@swecyb.com

                                      @_elena No, please don't. Spend your beautiful energy and time on building and contributing to what we already have.

                                      Don't waste a second on deconstructing, arguing against stuff we don't control.

                                      Make more videos like you did before, the Mastodon / Fediverse intro video. It was beautiful and awesome.

                                      That's what you should do. Build, don't destroy.

                                      everton137@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
                                      everton137@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
                                      everton137@social.vivaldi.net
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #18

                                      @_elena @nopatience I second that.

                                      A video addressing the nearly 60% of Members of the European Parliament still active on X would be beautiful.

                                      https://leavex.eu/politicians

                                      What would happen if prominent politicians had official, active accounts on the Fediverse? Public attention would certainly follow, as would journalists, who are obligated to track and report on political figures.

                                      People don't leave the Fediverse solely because of technical hurdles. Many arrive, look around, and simply don't find enough reasons to stay. Retention is not just a usability problem, but also a matter of social density and relevance. With a sufficiently large and visible group of active participants, the Fediverse could generate its own gravity and flourish beyond the tech-savvy community.

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        Dear Fedi friends,

                                        I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                                        The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                                        Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                                        odd@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
                                        odd@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
                                        odd@mstdn.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #19

                                        @_elena its probably better not to sabotage EU alternatives, but by grabbing domains the fediverse could be injected into the news cycle, if done with a coherent message to the media.

                                        brennpunktua@mastodon.socialB 1 Reply Last reply
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                                        • nopatience@swecyb.comN nopatience@swecyb.com

                                          @_elena No, please don't. Spend your beautiful energy and time on building and contributing to what we already have.

                                          Don't waste a second on deconstructing, arguing against stuff we don't control.

                                          Make more videos like you did before, the Mastodon / Fediverse intro video. It was beautiful and awesome.

                                          That's what you should do. Build, don't destroy.

                                          angelomassaro@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                          angelomassaro@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                          angelomassaro@mastodon.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #20

                                          @nopatience @_elena I second this

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