The Aesthetic Rebellion
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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Since AI is a thing I see how aesthetics shift to a more natural and less "clean digital" look. especially in photography there is this huge retro trend where people buying old lenses. some brands like PolarPro even produce new lenses that try to reproduce the visual style of disposal cameras. Fuji successfully revived instant cameras (like Polaroid) and their digital cameras come with film simulations.
artists start use more traditional media again. Also I, who basically exclusively used the PC for drawing since I was a teenager, started to buy pens and brushes again.@Drayventhal True, I saw that too, I also saw an appeal for "offline" devices; like old digital camera, where one know all photos on it will not be accidentally leaked or uploaded to a company. (a small Kodak keychain camera my 20y/o niece has, micro SDcard only, making photos like a webcam from the 2000s). Very interesting how the pressure of AI (and GAFAM + surveillance capitalism + AI corpos) are shaping a counterculture on the other side. I'm prolly late at this game.
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The Aesthetic Rebellion
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus
@davidrevoy very meta, I love it haha
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The Aesthetic Rebellion
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus
@davidrevoy I love how the entire frame matches the art inside the story. Brilliant
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The Aesthetic Rebellion
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus
@davidrevoy tfw got so immersed that didn't notice the whole comic's style changing until a second look. This is so cool!
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@me Thank you; but don't compare your own art: I'm 45, and draw daily since I'm around 11 (that's around when I decided I should do that daily and dream about a career in art). And it might sounds a lot, but technically, I can still find young persons on the web between 17 and 20 y/o way ahead.
So skill in general is really variable
the most important is what you express with it, and the good news: in the AI era, I believe having intermediate skill is a plus. 
@davidrevoy Oh, no worries. I used to draw as a kid and I've only gotten back into it recently. You were definitely an influence there.
I'm reasonable about my expectations. I know that the only way to get good at something is to suck at it first. Still, I'm happy with the progress I've made so far.
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@gemini0 cocaine-generated
ha ha!@davidrevoy force of habit, it's a mix of wafrn's option to replace "ai" with "cocaine" and a browser extension i've got that does the same *everywhere* lol -
@golemwire Yes, Cepper, the gothic sorceress is another character (but it's common to have feedback of her named "Pepper" as my style is what it is). Her name is a pun: Cepper & Parrot
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Speaking of names, is Parrot a reference to the Stochastic Parrots paper? -
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The Aesthetic Rebellion
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus
I'm in love with that last frame, gorgeous
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@davidrevoy
Yes, yes! Next start tagging with #unix_surrealism !
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@davidrevoy
Yes, yes! Next start tagging with #unix_surrealism !
@mjd@screwlisp @davidrevoy @mjd uncredited prahou method?!?!
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@prahou @davidrevoy I'm starting to think that maybe I should wait for images to load before boosting, instead of trusting alt text.
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@prahou @davidrevoy I'm starting to think that maybe I should wait for images to load before boosting, instead of trusting alt text.
@paculino @davidrevoy great idea!
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Around 15 years ago a popular deep learning topic was turning photographs into apparent brushwork similar to different artists. However photographs have extremely high entropy to begin with, I suppose. Whereas genai [] I guess benefits from producing low entropy images from a random noise seed. Revoy's art is (until now) very polished, meaning the entropy is quite subtle and easily misconstrued as being low entropy. cf. storing entropy in bold outlines.
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why did you just post the first panel of david revoy's comic
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Quick visual comparison.
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The Aesthetic Rebellion
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus
@davidrevoy This inspired me to paint something awful.
Come and get it, tin can:
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@prahou @davidrevoy I'm looking dermaßen forward to this aardvarks underwater egg thing
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@prahou @davidrevoy I'm looking dermaßen forward to this aardvarks underwater egg thing
@woffs @davidrevoy i'm going to have to really draw it now, aren't I?
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The Aesthetic Rebellion
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus
@davidrevoy hey, it's a good illustration on Goodhart's Law. Remember that being a thing during COVID. Especially when it came to employers tracking productivity using mouse movements. Then those same employees figured out how to fool that software by installing mouse signaling software or vibrators to their mice.
But then again, how long is it going to take until new LLMs begin to copy those kind of techniques we apply to our artwork? It could be a never-ending cat and mouse chase when it comes to genAI and us.
