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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

    So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

    It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

    Neat!

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    #8

    @eniko @Njord Let me introduce you to my doorbell (which may be upside down, who can tell with such a logo?). Does the same thing, and I can just pull the inside part from the wall socket if I don't feel like anyone ringing my doorbell.

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    • michaelporter@ottawa.placeM michaelporter@ottawa.place

      @eniko @Njord That is neat - reminds me of those old TV remotes that were basically ultrasonic xylophones* 😊
      Any downside? I discovered a little while ago that my barbecue lighter (standard thing with the piezoelectic crystal) knocked out my computer’s multiport hub if it was used too near.

      * https://www.reddit.com/r/Historycord/comments/1rv82y1/the_zenith_space_commander_1950s60s_one_of_the/

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      #9

      @MichaelPorter @Njord haven't noticed anything no

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      • michaelporter@ottawa.placeM michaelporter@ottawa.place

        @eniko @Njord That is neat - reminds me of those old TV remotes that were basically ultrasonic xylophones* 😊
        Any downside? I discovered a little while ago that my barbecue lighter (standard thing with the piezoelectic crystal) knocked out my computer’s multiport hub if it was used too near.

        * https://www.reddit.com/r/Historycord/comments/1rv82y1/the_zenith_space_commander_1950s60s_one_of_the/

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        #10

        @MichaelPorter the igniter puts out a lot of RF noise, dunnit?

        Back in the good old days you could blast out enough RF to basically picoweld iron filings at a distance, and nobody would stop you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coherer

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        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

          Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

          So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

          It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

          Neat!

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          #11

          @eniko @Njord We've got a doorbell like that on our fence gate. Didn't have enough power to fire through the steel post its attached to, so I had to rig an external antenna to it. Now it works fine 🙂

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          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

            Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

            So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

            It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

            Neat!

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            #12

            @eniko @Njord The original Philips Hue Tap also worked like this. It's super neat!

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            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

              Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

              So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

              It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

              Neat!

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              #13

              @eniko @Njord

              I remember the old television remote controls had several ultrasonic whistles that pushing a button would be picked up in the television's vacuum tube amplifier and activate solenoids to mechanically change channels or rotate the volume knob...

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              • rotopenguin@mastodon.socialR rotopenguin@mastodon.social

                @MichaelPorter the igniter puts out a lot of RF noise, dunnit?

                Back in the good old days you could blast out enough RF to basically picoweld iron filings at a distance, and nobody would stop you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coherer

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                #14

                @rotopenguin I've *never* heard of these! Thanks 😊
                Interesting to see the wide variety of coherers.

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                • dianea@lgbtqia.spaceD dianea@lgbtqia.space

                  @eniko @Njord

                  I remember the old television remote controls had several ultrasonic whistles that pushing a button would be picked up in the television's vacuum tube amplifier and activate solenoids to mechanically change channels or rotate the volume knob...

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                  #15

                  @dianea @Njord neat!

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                    #16

                    @LunaDragofelis @eniko @Njord yes, but not the kind of power you need for prosthetics, more like picoampere. There's a lot of extremely fundamental research that would still be needed for the kind of application you're thinking of ^^'

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                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                      So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                      It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                      Neat!

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                      #17

                      @eniko @Njord Early TV remote controls (1960s) were similar. Each button triggered a spring to hit an ultrasonic tuning fork which the TV could identify.

                      My childhood experiments indicated a range of 10 - 20 feet (~ 3 - 6 meters).

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                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                        So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                        It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                        Neat!

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                        #18

                        @eniko @Njord I have a doorbell like that! The issue is that since it requires some effort in pushing, some people think it's just touch activated and don't really ring it 🙂

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                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                          So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                          It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                          Neat!

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                          #19

                          @eniko @Njord they should make those also for foot activation, would be more accessible too if used as a doorbell

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                          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                            So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                            It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                            Neat!

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                            #20

                            @eniko @Njord ARM has ultra low-power CPUs that can run off energy harvesting, it’s honestly amazing how little power you need for modern devices and it kinda feels like magic…

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                            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                              So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                              It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                              Neat!

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                              #21

                              @eniko @Njord My previous workplace had a battery-free wireless doorbell - this must be how that worked too. Not as cool as a big friendly button, though!

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                              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                                So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                                It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                                Neat!

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                                #22

                                I got light switches like that in my house for nearly ten years. Sometimes you have to push them several times if you haven't used them in a while, probably to get enough piezo charge for a signal.

                                https://kinetic-switch.de/en

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                                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                                  So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                                  It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                                  Neat!

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                                  #23

                                  @eniko @Njord speaking on behalf of the fediverse: yes, we like this

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                                  • sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.placeS sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    @eniko @Njord our front door bell is like that, it’s nice not having to wonder about missing a delivery because the battery died, it can’t now. Love tech that makes life simpler not more complicated

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                                    #24

                                    @sinbad @eniko @Njord
                                    I got fed up with batteries in door bell button and the "bell" and unreliability (433 MHz).
                                    Eventually I found a real wired pushbutton and BingBong inside box, though that used batteries. So I added a transformer to 8V AC at the fuse box, because the bing-bong real solenoid doesn't care about AC or DC. The bulb in the door bell button is across the switch, so in series & glows orange, thus long life.

                                    1950s technology, but 100% reliable.

                                    No spying to Amazon.

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                                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                                      So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                                      It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                                      Neat!

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                                      #25

                                      @eniko @Njord ELG PowerCube/PowerRemote?

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                                      • leonardof@bertha.socialL leonardof@bertha.social

                                        @eniko @Njord ELG PowerCube/PowerRemote?

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                                        #26

                                        @leonardof I'm not sure but @Njord might be able to tell you

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                                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          @leonardof I'm not sure but @Njord might be able to tell you

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                                          #27

                                          @eniko @Njord BTW the Brazilian product page says there's a fuse which can trip if current exceeds 10 A, but the fuse should be resettable

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