I've been spreading the word about the Fediverse among fellow authors.
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@daj @wordsmith
Yes, that's what I thought, but I've never tried other instances. I thought maybe an author whose activity revolves solely around posting and reading fiction would feel more connected on a dedicated server.
So, the best way to go would be to start a blog that's compatible with the Fediverse and then create a microblog account to post links and find other authors. Right?@iwritelike my personal opinion is that I'd prefer folk don't spam links to every one of their blog posts. The odd one that might interest a reader to follow their long-form account, sure, but I'm put off by accounts that seem to exist to advertise. But yeah - a microblogging service tends toward being more social in some respects.
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@iwritelike my personal opinion is that I'd prefer folk don't spam links to every one of their blog posts. The odd one that might interest a reader to follow their long-form account, sure, but I'm put off by accounts that seem to exist to advertise. But yeah - a microblogging service tends toward being more social in some respects.
@wordsmith Hey, thanks for letting me know. I never thought that constantly posting links to a blog would be considered inappropriate. Not that I was going to do it anyway, but it's good to learn something new about the way the Fediverse works.
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@wordsmith absolutely. Mastodon is beast. But there are other lighter-weight alternatives on the fedi. And the mastodon.social server is a tsunami of nonsense, spam, and porn. Far better to use a well moderated, safe server. IMHO. Most people seem to land on the flagship mastodon server then move along. I was one of those sheep. But moved a few times, then settled in to a GotoSocial server.
For writing, I found WordPress has exploded into a box of wizardry and dark corners of coaxing.
@daj @wordsmith "the mastodon.social server is a tsunami of nonsense, spam, and porn"
I'm learning a lot of new stuff today. -
I've been spreading the word about the Fediverse among fellow authors. I was asked which server is dedicated to indie authors, fiction. The one recommended to me before is writing.exchange, so I'll recommend that one. Are there any other servers I should recommend?
If an author wants to publish their short stories in full, which server is better? Would it be Venera.social, Write.as, or Fediverse.blog? I haven't tried any of those myself, I don't want to recommend something blindly.
#Fediverse@iwritelike Write.as is great for fiction—clean interface, good community. But the real win is that once you're on the Fediverse, you own your URLs and can move freely. On Medium or Substack, you're one ToS change away from trouble. With Fediverse, you export and go. That freedom matters for serious writers.
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I've been spreading the word about the Fediverse among fellow authors. I was asked which server is dedicated to indie authors, fiction. The one recommended to me before is writing.exchange, so I'll recommend that one. Are there any other servers I should recommend?
If an author wants to publish their short stories in full, which server is better? Would it be Venera.social, Write.as, or Fediverse.blog? I haven't tried any of those myself, I don't want to recommend something blindly.
#Fediverse@iwritelike Doesn't really matter but wandering.shop has a bunch of us. I can toss an invite...
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@iwritelike my personal opinion is that I'd prefer folk don't spam links to every one of their blog posts. The odd one that might interest a reader to follow their long-form account, sure, but I'm put off by accounts that seem to exist to advertise. But yeah - a microblogging service tends toward being more social in some respects.
@wordsmith @iwritelike I don't consider my blog posts spam.
I always post a link to my own posts, but it's never more than one a day. Sometimes one a week.
I do agree that someone who posts six in a few minutes is spamming.
Sadly, some of the fediverse based blogging platforms get over-excited when you import old posts and fire them out in quick succession to the fediverse.At the end of the day, everyone is different. We all work and use things differently. If you don't like it don't follow. I know I am certainly not here to collect random followers who never intact with me. It's a social network. Be chatty. I am. You might have noticed.
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@wordsmith Hey, thanks for letting me know. I never thought that constantly posting links to a blog would be considered inappropriate. Not that I was going to do it anyway, but it's good to learn something new about the way the Fediverse works.
@iwritelike I wouldn't say it's considered inappropriate by everyone, it's just my personal opinion. I'm here for people, not brands.
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@wordsmith @iwritelike I don't consider my blog posts spam.
I always post a link to my own posts, but it's never more than one a day. Sometimes one a week.
I do agree that someone who posts six in a few minutes is spamming.
Sadly, some of the fediverse based blogging platforms get over-excited when you import old posts and fire them out in quick succession to the fediverse.At the end of the day, everyone is different. We all work and use things differently. If you don't like it don't follow. I know I am certainly not here to collect random followers who never intact with me. It's a social network. Be chatty. I am. You might have noticed.
@daj just to clarify that wasn't a subtoot aimed at you!
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@wordsmith @iwritelike I don't consider my blog posts spam.
I always post a link to my own posts, but it's never more than one a day. Sometimes one a week.
I do agree that someone who posts six in a few minutes is spamming.
Sadly, some of the fediverse based blogging platforms get over-excited when you import old posts and fire them out in quick succession to the fediverse.At the end of the day, everyone is different. We all work and use things differently. If you don't like it don't follow. I know I am certainly not here to collect random followers who never intact with me. It's a social network. Be chatty. I am. You might have noticed.
@daj @wordsmith
Ok, yes, I now understand what you mean. I didn't mean spam, of course. I was wondering what would be a Fediverse way (if this is a thing) to be an independent literary fiction author. And whether there's a way to do it in as non-technical a way as possible, where a person could just sign up, post a story, and discover other stories. -
@daj just to clarify that wasn't a subtoot aimed at you!
@wordsmith I get that. We were having a conversation
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I've been spreading the word about the Fediverse among fellow authors. I was asked which server is dedicated to indie authors, fiction. The one recommended to me before is writing.exchange, so I'll recommend that one. Are there any other servers I should recommend?
If an author wants to publish their short stories in full, which server is better? Would it be Venera.social, Write.as, or Fediverse.blog? I haven't tried any of those myself, I don't want to recommend something blindly.
#Fediverse@iwritelike The best place to actually publish creative writing is on a website they own. They can link to their pieces from the Fediverse and any other places they're active, but if their writing lives on someone else's Fediverse instance and that instance shuts down (as they sometimes do) all their writing is gone, all the existing links to it are invalidated and they'll have to start again from scratch.
This isn't a problem limited to the Fediverse, traditional social media sites have shut down in the past (Friendster, MySpace etc). You can't build something lasting on someone else's land.
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@iwritelike The best place to actually publish creative writing is on a website they own. They can link to their pieces from the Fediverse and any other places they're active, but if their writing lives on someone else's Fediverse instance and that instance shuts down (as they sometimes do) all their writing is gone, all the existing links to it are invalidated and they'll have to start again from scratch.
This isn't a problem limited to the Fediverse, traditional social media sites have shut down in the past (Friendster, MySpace etc). You can't build something lasting on someone else's land.
@woe2you Did it often happen on the Fediverse?
Yes, having your own website is the safest option, plus making lots of backups. I was thinking about those who can't have their own website. The Fediverse still feels safer than other social media because it's decentralized and because it has different values. Unless, instances disappear overnight without a trace which I don't think happens, does it? -
@iwritelike Doesn't really matter but wandering.shop has a bunch of us. I can toss an invite...
@afeinman Thank you for letting me know! I'll pass it on.
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@iwritelike Write.as is great for fiction—clean interface, good community. But the real win is that once you're on the Fediverse, you own your URLs and can move freely. On Medium or Substack, you're one ToS change away from trouble. With Fediverse, you export and go. That freedom matters for serious writers.
@albert_inkman Thank you for sharing your thoughts on Write.as. It's good to know. I agree with you about the dangers of centralized platforms.
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@woe2you Did it often happen on the Fediverse?
Yes, having your own website is the safest option, plus making lots of backups. I was thinking about those who can't have their own website. The Fediverse still feels safer than other social media because it's decentralized and because it has different values. Unless, instances disappear overnight without a trace which I don't think happens, does it?@iwritelike It's safer in some ways (if you have to move instance you can take your following and followers lists with you), not in others (still no way to migrate content and servers tend to be passion projects by one or a handful of people and maintained out of their own poickets).
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@iwritelike It's safer in some ways (if you have to move instance you can take your following and followers lists with you), not in others (still no way to migrate content and servers tend to be passion projects by one or a handful of people and maintained out of their own poickets).
@woe2you Thank you for letting me know. I haven't looked at it from this perspective before.
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@albert_inkman Thank you for sharing your thoughts on Write.as. It's good to know. I agree with you about the dangers of centralized platforms.
@iwritelike That's exactly it. When writers own their platform—even just a simple blog or Write.as account—they get to keep their audience relationship intact. It's an asymmetry that matters a lot more than people realize.
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@iwritelike It's safer in some ways (if you have to move instance you can take your following and followers lists with you), not in others (still no way to migrate content and servers tend to be passion projects by one or a handful of people and maintained out of their own poickets).
@woe2you @iwritelike It is fairly straightforward to make a backup copy of your data from Mastodon, say.
But you can hook up a WordPress directly into the Fediverse. I have that with backlog.dk - and my user @mj-j will post the blog posts. -
I've been spreading the word about the Fediverse among fellow authors. I was asked which server is dedicated to indie authors, fiction. The one recommended to me before is writing.exchange, so I'll recommend that one. Are there any other servers I should recommend?
If an author wants to publish their short stories in full, which server is better? Would it be Venera.social, Write.as, or Fediverse.blog? I haven't tried any of those myself, I don't want to recommend something blindly.
#Fediverse@iwritelike There are a great many of us here but no *one* server that I know of
Of course I came here during a very chaotic time (right at twitter was being bought by the E one) so your milage may vary
good luck though
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@woe2you Did it often happen on the Fediverse?
Yes, having your own website is the safest option, plus making lots of backups. I was thinking about those who can't have their own website. The Fediverse still feels safer than other social media because it's decentralized and because it has different values. Unless, instances disappear overnight without a trace which I don't think happens, does it?@iwritelike Forgive the long reply but I think it’s important info for newcomers to the Fediverse:
Instead of corporations or a billionaire owning and paying for a social media site each Fediverse server is run by and paid for by individuals (sometimes a group of individuals) so in some ways your posts are more at risk of disappearing overnight here than on a mainstream site.
Not everyone has the tech savvy to run a server and it takes several people to properly manage and supervise a busy server to ensure abusive behaviour is dealt with.
It’s not actually free to run a server and that’s why many admins ask for donations. Some people earn enough money to afford that but sometimes situations change.It also matters where your server is based in the world. It must follow the laws of the country it is based in. A USA server might end up in trouble with the current administration.
I’m on a server based in France even though I am in Canada.
It absolutely has happened that some servers suddenly have shut down and unless you regularly save your bookmarks, who you follow, blocklist, etc, into files on your PC you could lose everything overnight.
Posts are not saved and cannot be transferred to a new account so the writing is not safe either way.
That’s why some people seek out blog sites like Ghost to post links for people in the Fediverse to read.In case you want to know how to save who you follow and your bookmarks, etc, on Mastodon this is how (see images below):
- view your Mastodon page via browser
- click on the three horizontal lines at the bottom of the screen for settings
- choose Preferences
- click on three horizontal lines at the top for more settings (Mastodon makes it complicated)
- scroll down and choose “Import and export”
- click on each CSV you want to save into your PC files (or phone cloud files).There is no option here to save posts. Followers will also be lost if server suddenly shuts down before you get the chance to transfer info to a new server but they will be automatically transferred if you do the switch before a server shuts down. Most people give a heads up before they plan to shut down a server but sometimes disasters happen and there is no warning.
