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  • vaurora@mstdn.socialV vaurora@mstdn.social

    @sebastian @Szescstopni @becha @douwe @marleenstikker @battlemesh @m0bi the meshtastic users in Innsbruck are a little grumpy that someone put in a repeater that connects them to Germany and they get tons of messages from far away flooding the public channel

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    #15

    @vaurora I can understand that 🙂 @sebastian @becha @douwe @marleenstikker @battlemesh @m0bi

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    • vaurora@mstdn.socialV vaurora@mstdn.social

      @sebastian @Szescstopni @becha @douwe @marleenstikker @battlemesh @m0bi the meshtastic users in Innsbruck are a little grumpy that someone put in a repeater that connects them to Germany and they get tons of messages from far away flooding the public channel

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      #16

      @vaurora

      If this is done via mqtt, can be disabled in device. If via lora radio, primary 0 channel is special, available for all, and only migration to/communication on channels 1-7 can help. Also with private keys for these channels. Channel 0 has own key, known by all. Can be changed too, but then its not default anymore.

      @sebastian @Szescstopni @becha @douwe @marleenstikker @battlemesh

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      • sebastian@social.itu.dkS sebastian@social.itu.dk

        @Szescstopni @becha @vaurora @douwe @marleenstikker @battlemesh @m0bi
        (and adding @andersaardvark )

        it would certainly be interesting to see if we could establish a backbone of long distance routers/repeaters, placed in good places to close the gaps.
        there s no reason why a single hop can not go 100, 200 km ... so a handful of hops would do Poland - Germany, Germany-Denmark, and so on ...

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        #17

        @sebastian @Szescstopni @becha @vaurora @douwe @marleenstikker @battlemesh @m0bi

        I am talking to people in Malmö to do cross-border reticulum perhaps through directional wifi antennas as well as sprinkle it with some local governance (since this part is not that clear in reticulum as in meshcore+meshtastic), but also sounds interesting to do this for other protocols. For longer distance communication it would also be interesting for us to send packets through HAM radio frequencies through the ionosphere (should reach thousands of kilometers) when we all got our licenses. Perhaps there is a way, if we can fund and setup repeaters, to make them useful for multiple of the protocols

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        • sebastian@social.itu.dkS sebastian@social.itu.dk

          @Szescstopni @becha @vaurora @douwe @marleenstikker @battlemesh @m0bi

          I agree the local is more important.
          But the Cross-Border could be a nice demonstrator.
          Plus I m in Denmark but have family in Germany;)

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          @sebastian @Szescstopni @becha @vaurora @douwe @marleenstikker @battlemesh @m0bi

          I would similarly love to reach people in know in Germany, Poland, Netherlands etc. I am up for start planning these deployments soon-ish (start next year or so if we should collect a group for this.

          Once in a while I am in Amsterdam, and perhaps moving their for my PhD exchange in early 2028 so I could potentially drive between to do maintenance

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            @sebastian @Szescstopni @becha @vaurora @douwe @marleenstikker @battlemesh @m0bi

            I would similarly love to reach people in know in Germany, Poland, Netherlands etc. I am up for start planning these deployments soon-ish (start next year or so if we should collect a group for this.

            Once in a while I am in Amsterdam, and perhaps moving their for my PhD exchange in early 2028 so I could potentially drive between to do maintenance

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            #19

            @andersaardvark @Szescstopni @becha @vaurora @douwe @marleenstikker @battlemesh @m0bi

            this place here might be the right one, to initiate this -
            pls CC people, feed into your non-fediverse networks, lists etc

            ps.
            (i know there s #meshtastic groups and things over on the old corp networks, but i ve never understood how you could organize autonomy on #META ...)

            more tags for reach: if
            #meshcore #lora #mesh #freifunk #CCC #community #network #activist #bornhack #solarpunk
            u might b interested

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            • sebastian@social.itu.dkS sebastian@social.itu.dk

              #meshtastic #lora on #crossborderail #train

              #stayGrounded in #europe

              #pOSTcOLLAPSEnETWORKING

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              @sebastian I had a #ThinkNode M5 with #Meshtastic LongFast running while being on a train from #Graz, #Vienna, #Brussels, #London to #Scotland (#Glasgow, #Oban, #Edinburgh).

              From the train, I may have detected a handful of nodes. Not more. Never being able to send to the public channel. I guess the train blocks most of the signal and there aren't many nodes running.

              Outside of trains, I've had perfect network in Graz, a bit in Vienna and almost nothing at the rest of my tour.

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              • publicvoit@graz.socialP publicvoit@graz.social

                @sebastian I had a #ThinkNode M5 with #Meshtastic LongFast running while being on a train from #Graz, #Vienna, #Brussels, #London to #Scotland (#Glasgow, #Oban, #Edinburgh).

                From the train, I may have detected a handful of nodes. Not more. Never being able to send to the public channel. I guess the train blocks most of the signal and there aren't many nodes running.

                Outside of trains, I've had perfect network in Graz, a bit in Vienna and almost nothing at the rest of my tour.

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                #21

                @publicvoit @sebastian

                Medium or short range?

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                • rapha3l@not-x.g2od.chR rapha3l@not-x.g2od.ch

                  @publicvoit @sebastian

                  Medium or short range?

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                  #22

                  @rapha3l @sebastian LongFast as I've learned by misc guides on the web. This seems the common configuration for Meshtastic.

                  Maybe there is more MeshCore but I haven't played around with that because my 2nd device Cardputer Mesh died after 2 weeks. 😞

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                  • publicvoit@graz.socialP publicvoit@graz.social

                    @rapha3l @sebastian LongFast as I've learned by misc guides on the web. This seems the common configuration for Meshtastic.

                    Maybe there is more MeshCore but I haven't played around with that because my 2nd device Cardputer Mesh died after 2 weeks. 😞

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                    #23

                    @publicvoit @sebastian

                    Medium Fast in 🇨🇭

                    Medium Fast in some parts of 🇩🇪?

                    @finn

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                    • rapha3l@not-x.g2od.chR rapha3l@not-x.g2od.ch

                      @publicvoit @sebastian

                      Medium Fast in 🇨🇭

                      Medium Fast in some parts of 🇩🇪?

                      @finn

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                      @rapha3l @sebastian @finn Well, I only checked for Brussels, London and Scotland. LongFast everywhere. Since I slept through Germany, I didn't bother with different local networks that aren't using LongFast as well.

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                      • rapha3l@not-x.g2od.chR rapha3l@not-x.g2od.ch

                        @publicvoit @sebastian

                        Medium Fast in 🇨🇭

                        Medium Fast in some parts of 🇩🇪?

                        @finn

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                        #25

                        @rapha3l @publicvoit @sebastian It depends, some areas have switched to MediumFast. The recent Firmware has a Beacon Option which can tell users id in their area another Preset is being used.

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                        • publicvoit@graz.socialP publicvoit@graz.social

                          @rapha3l @sebastian @finn Well, I only checked for Brussels, London and Scotland. LongFast everywhere. Since I slept through Germany, I didn't bother with different local networks that aren't using LongFast as well.

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                          @publicvoit @rapha3l @finn

                          i left it on the default LongFast for now, but must admit, i have no idea what local networks might be using.

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