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  3. Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 32 - 5 May - Strasbourg - Rumelange - Kirchberg - Wiltz - Libramont - Bruxelles

Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 32 - 5 May - Strasbourg - Rumelange - Kirchberg - Wiltz - Libramont - Bruxelles

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    Here’s today’s intro video. Two borders and a meeting in Luxembourg.
    https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/h1r8FwD4SnA1NRvtGXq4CB

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    #3

    #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 110 of 125
    TER 30302
    07:53 Strasbourg - Metz Ville 09:21
    SNCF for TER Fluo Grand Est

    Train type: GEC Alsthom, MTE BB 26000 locomotive, 8 Corail carriages, driving control car
    ⚡️ (25kV ac)
    🚲: ✅
    🦽: ✅ (lift on platform)
    🛜: ⛔️
    🍽️: ⛔️
    🧳: 😐 (narrow doors high steps)
    🧽: 😐 (it’s grimy, but I’ve seen worse)
    Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 32 - 5 May - Strasbourg - Rumelange - Kirchberg - Wiltz - Libramont - Bruxelles

      New borders:
      Rumelange 🇱🇺 - Ottange 🇫🇷
      Benonchamps 🇧🇪 - Schimpach-Wampach 🇱🇺

      A few dismantled lines at 🇱🇺 borders – to 🇫🇷 at Rumelange, then west of Wiltz towards 🇧🇪. And appropriately from Wiltz I will cycle through Bastogne, a town today without a railway station that is nevertheless rather famous for its bike race.

      On the routes map:
      https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#8/49.728030/6.058960

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      #4

      @jon I would say, Welcome to Brussels, but I'm outta here at 14h. 😁

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 110 of 125
        TER 30302
        07:53 Strasbourg - Metz Ville 09:21
        SNCF for TER Fluo Grand Est

        Train type: GEC Alsthom, MTE BB 26000 locomotive, 8 Corail carriages, driving control car
        ⚡️ (25kV ac)
        🚲: ✅
        🦽: ✅ (lift on platform)
        🛜: ⛔️
        🍽️: ⛔️
        🧳: 😐 (narrow doors high steps)
        🧽: 😐 (it’s grimy, but I’ve seen worse)
        Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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        #5

        TER 30302
        07:53 Strasbourg - Metz Ville 09:21

        Distance: 154.2km
        Average speed: 105km/h

        5 stops:
        Brumath
        Saverne
        Réding
        Morhange
        Metz Ville

        This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#10/48.848451/6.954346

        #CrossBorderRail

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          TER 30302
          07:53 Strasbourg - Metz Ville 09:21

          Distance: 154.2km
          Average speed: 105km/h

          5 stops:
          Brumath
          Saverne
          Réding
          Morhange
          Metz Ville

          This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#10/48.848451/6.954346

          #CrossBorderRail

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          #6

          SNCF Connect, it can *always* be worse than you imagine. I am on Interrail today but wondered how much Metz 🇫🇷 - Bettembourg 🇱🇺costs. SNCF Connect can’t tell me, TER Grand Est site can. SNCF is the operator. 🤷‍♂️ #CrossBorderRail

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            SNCF Connect, it can *always* be worse than you imagine. I am on Interrail today but wondered how much Metz 🇫🇷 - Bettembourg 🇱🇺costs. SNCF Connect can’t tell me, TER Grand Est site can. SNCF is the operator. 🤷‍♂️ #CrossBorderRail

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            #7

            Trainline can’t sell it either 🤦‍♂️ #CrossBorderRail

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              Trainline can’t sell it either 🤦‍♂️ #CrossBorderRail

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              #8

              PEOPLE DO YOUR JOBS

              THERE’S A SOLID RAIL SERVICE

              MAKE IT EASY TO GET TICKETS!

              🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                PEOPLE DO YOUR JOBS

                THERE’S A SOLID RAIL SERVICE

                MAKE IT EASY TO GET TICKETS!

                🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

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                #9

                Also public transport is free in Luxembourg

                So all you need is to sell a ticket to the fictitious station at the border (Bettembourg Grenze or some such)

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  Also public transport is free in Luxembourg

                  So all you need is to sell a ticket to the fictitious station at the border (Bettembourg Grenze or some such)

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                  #10

                  @jon

                  It was so funny standing at a station in Luxembourg trying to get a ticket at a machine - but there where only tickets for first class. Then suddenly service personal appeared telling us that we don't need tickets. I was shocked by both: I don't need to pay and you offer support by humans?

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    PEOPLE DO YOUR JOBS

                    THERE’S A SOLID RAIL SERVICE

                    MAKE IT EASY TO GET TICKETS!

                    🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

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                    #11

                    @jon It's good we're working on trying to get that fixed then 😉

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      Also public transport is free in Luxembourg

                      So all you need is to sell a ticket to the fictitious station at the border (Bettembourg Grenze or some such)

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                      #12

                      Something’s wrong. The TER is crawling along.

                      Rather than tell us what’s wrong (which would be handy!) we’re being warned to not open the doors.

                      Priorities!

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        Trainline can’t sell it either 🤦‍♂️ #CrossBorderRail

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                        #13

                        @jon AFAIK the only way for third parties to sell any TER is through SNCF. So whatever they have is what third parties (who are connected to SNCF Connect API’s) will sell.

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                        • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                          @jon AFAIK the only way for third parties to sell any TER is through SNCF. So whatever they have is what third parties (who are connected to SNCF Connect API’s) will sell.

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                          #14

                          @stefanlindbohm is there a API for Grand Est TERs?

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            @stefanlindbohm is there a API for Grand Est TERs?

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                            #15

                            @jon I doubt it. All goes through Connect from what I know.

                            (For third parties - obviously there are integrations used between the involved parties. But those might potentially be infeasible technically for a reseller to use.)

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                            • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                              @jon I doubt it. All goes through Connect from what I know.

                              (For third parties - obviously there are integrations used between the involved parties. But those might potentially be infeasible technically for a reseller to use.)

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                              #16

                              @stefanlindbohm but how does a SNCF ticket office sell it? There must be data on those trains in SNCF systems?

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                @stefanlindbohm but how does a SNCF ticket office sell it? There must be data on those trains in SNCF systems?

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                                #17

                                @jon It might be sharing of the tariff data and SNCF issuing tickets for it independently? No third party can do that.

                                @jeanbaptistemarie Maybe you know if there are API’s resellers can use to connect directly to the régions? Or is it all through Connect/PAO?

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                                • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                                  @jon It might be sharing of the tariff data and SNCF issuing tickets for it independently? No third party can do that.

                                  @jeanbaptistemarie Maybe you know if there are API’s resellers can use to connect directly to the régions? Or is it all through Connect/PAO?

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                                  #18

                                  @stefanlindbohm @jeanbaptistemarie or is there a Grenze station in Connect data but their search is just too crap to find which Grenze that Bettembourg is beyond?

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 32 - 5 May - Strasbourg - Rumelange - Kirchberg - Wiltz - Libramont - Bruxelles

                                    New borders:
                                    Rumelange 🇱🇺 - Ottange 🇫🇷
                                    Benonchamps 🇧🇪 - Schimpach-Wampach 🇱🇺

                                    A few dismantled lines at 🇱🇺 borders – to 🇫🇷 at Rumelange, then west of Wiltz towards 🇧🇪. And appropriately from Wiltz I will cycle through Bastogne, a town today without a railway station that is nevertheless rather famous for its bike race.

                                    On the routes map:
                                    https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#8/49.728030/6.058960

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                                    #19

                                    @jon oh, Bastogne! The station building of Bastogne Sud still has a waiting room open for passengers (that now are waiting for the bus).

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      Something’s wrong. The TER is crawling along.

                                      Rather than tell us what’s wrong (which would be handy!) we’re being warned to not open the doors.

                                      Priorities!

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                                      #20

                                      Shit show of a railway. The TER to Luxembourg didn’t wait 1 min for the incoming TER from Strasbourg.

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        Shit show of a railway. The TER to Luxembourg didn’t wait 1 min for the incoming TER from Strasbourg.

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                                        #21

                                        Thanks for funding this, EU!

                                        Could you maybe also tell SNCF how to organise an effing timetable? 🤔

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          @stefanlindbohm @jeanbaptistemarie or is there a Grenze station in Connect data but their search is just too crap to find which Grenze that Bettembourg is beyond?

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                                          #22

                                          @jon Oh right, that might be why Connect fails to create a ticket. It might be looking for a tariff for Bettembourg frontier > Bettembourg, finding none and thus failing to create a price. While the région is using an inventory system (the one that creates tickets) that knows to just skip that segment.

                                          We don’t integrate directly with SNCF Connect, but if it is possible to select border points in the API it might be possible as a reseller to get a ticket that way.

                                          @jeanbaptistemarie

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