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  3. The goal isn't to protect children, the goal is to de-anonymize every comment and action on the internet, associating it with a legal ID, by eventually requesting official identification from every adult using a computer.

The goal isn't to protect children, the goal is to de-anonymize every comment and action on the internet, associating it with a legal ID, by eventually requesting official identification from every adult using a computer.

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  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

    The goal isn't to protect children,
    the goal is to de-anonymize every comment and action on the internet, associating it with a legal ID, by eventually requesting official identification from every adult using a computer.

    Some politicians have already stated this plainly.

    This leads to censorship of anyone criticizing their government.

    This leads to repression of marginalized people, especially immigrants, people of color, and trans and gender diverse people.

    This leads to self-censorship of any comments or actions that could be interpreted against the system. Such as speaking out against fascism and authoritarian surveillance, or defending human rights publicly.

    This leads to total control of the population and its tools of communications.

    This leads to the end of democracy, centralizing power even more in the hands of a few.

    Do not let them do this to us.

    #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #Authoritarianism #HumanRights

    drahardja@sfba.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #5

    @Em0nM4stodon It’s never about protecting children.

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    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

      The goal isn't to protect children,
      the goal is to de-anonymize every comment and action on the internet, associating it with a legal ID, by eventually requesting official identification from every adult using a computer.

      Some politicians have already stated this plainly.

      This leads to censorship of anyone criticizing their government.

      This leads to repression of marginalized people, especially immigrants, people of color, and trans and gender diverse people.

      This leads to self-censorship of any comments or actions that could be interpreted against the system. Such as speaking out against fascism and authoritarian surveillance, or defending human rights publicly.

      This leads to total control of the population and its tools of communications.

      This leads to the end of democracy, centralizing power even more in the hands of a few.

      Do not let them do this to us.

      #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #Authoritarianism #HumanRights

      accordingtowouter@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #6

      @Em0nM4stodon It’s those in power who want this. To increase their control over us. And then there are those stupid idiots who say: ‘I’ve got nothing to hide. Go ahead.’

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      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

        The goal isn't to protect children,
        the goal is to de-anonymize every comment and action on the internet, associating it with a legal ID, by eventually requesting official identification from every adult using a computer.

        Some politicians have already stated this plainly.

        This leads to censorship of anyone criticizing their government.

        This leads to repression of marginalized people, especially immigrants, people of color, and trans and gender diverse people.

        This leads to self-censorship of any comments or actions that could be interpreted against the system. Such as speaking out against fascism and authoritarian surveillance, or defending human rights publicly.

        This leads to total control of the population and its tools of communications.

        This leads to the end of democracy, centralizing power even more in the hands of a few.

        Do not let them do this to us.

        #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #Authoritarianism #HumanRights

        coolcalmcollected@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #7

        @Em0nM4stodon

        the lesson the powerful learned from tik tok is that we fucking hate them and they no longer have control of the narrative

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        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

          The goal isn't to protect children,
          the goal is to de-anonymize every comment and action on the internet, associating it with a legal ID, by eventually requesting official identification from every adult using a computer.

          Some politicians have already stated this plainly.

          This leads to censorship of anyone criticizing their government.

          This leads to repression of marginalized people, especially immigrants, people of color, and trans and gender diverse people.

          This leads to self-censorship of any comments or actions that could be interpreted against the system. Such as speaking out against fascism and authoritarian surveillance, or defending human rights publicly.

          This leads to total control of the population and its tools of communications.

          This leads to the end of democracy, centralizing power even more in the hands of a few.

          Do not let them do this to us.

          #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #Authoritarianism #HumanRights

          lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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          #8

          @Em0nM4stodon This. 💯

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          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

            The goal isn't to protect children,
            the goal is to de-anonymize every comment and action on the internet, associating it with a legal ID, by eventually requesting official identification from every adult using a computer.

            Some politicians have already stated this plainly.

            This leads to censorship of anyone criticizing their government.

            This leads to repression of marginalized people, especially immigrants, people of color, and trans and gender diverse people.

            This leads to self-censorship of any comments or actions that could be interpreted against the system. Such as speaking out against fascism and authoritarian surveillance, or defending human rights publicly.

            This leads to total control of the population and its tools of communications.

            This leads to the end of democracy, centralizing power even more in the hands of a few.

            Do not let them do this to us.

            #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #Authoritarianism #HumanRights

            c_merriweather@social.linux.pizzaC This user is from outside of this forum
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            #9

            @Em0nM4stodon They lie to us, we lie to them. Extra points for creativity.

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            • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

              @Em0nM4stodon It’s never about protecting children.

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              nicelymanifest@mastodon.social
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              #10

              @drahardja @Em0nM4stodon Evil stuff pretending to be benign.

              Fascism is just another variation on the theme of selfishness.

              Some humans find it breathtakingly hard to even conceive of helping others ...

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              • N nicelymanifest@mastodon.social

                @drahardja @Em0nM4stodon Evil stuff pretending to be benign.

                Fascism is just another variation on the theme of selfishness.

                Some humans find it breathtakingly hard to even conceive of helping others ...

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                #11

                @NicelyManifest @drahardja @Em0nM4stodon
                An evolutionary trend we shall either grow beyond or suffer the existential consequences of.
                Growing beyond evolutionary trends is in itself an evolutionary trend. Its a kind of like a negative selective corollary to the Fermi Paradox.

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                • mostlytato@mstdn.socialM mostlytato@mstdn.social

                  @NicelyManifest @drahardja @Em0nM4stodon
                  An evolutionary trend we shall either grow beyond or suffer the existential consequences of.
                  Growing beyond evolutionary trends is in itself an evolutionary trend. Its a kind of like a negative selective corollary to the Fermi Paradox.

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                  #12

                  @MostlyTato @drahardja @Em0nM4stodon Not many manage to throw in matters pertaining to Fermi. In my electronics degree in the 1970s I remained ever baffled by the nature of Fermi levels.

                  Meta evolution maybe. But it tends to move slowly.

                  Pornography only operates because of retained basic instincts that see any visuals of sexual opportunities appear - context was presumed rather than checked.

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                  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                    The goal isn't to protect children,
                    the goal is to de-anonymize every comment and action on the internet, associating it with a legal ID, by eventually requesting official identification from every adult using a computer.

                    Some politicians have already stated this plainly.

                    This leads to censorship of anyone criticizing their government.

                    This leads to repression of marginalized people, especially immigrants, people of color, and trans and gender diverse people.

                    This leads to self-censorship of any comments or actions that could be interpreted against the system. Such as speaking out against fascism and authoritarian surveillance, or defending human rights publicly.

                    This leads to total control of the population and its tools of communications.

                    This leads to the end of democracy, centralizing power even more in the hands of a few.

                    Do not let them do this to us.

                    #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #Authoritarianism #HumanRights

                    lxskllr@mastodon.worldL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #13

                    @Em0nM4stodon

                    It's kind of preaching to the choir here. Mastodon seems to be a haven for peeps, either by vocation, or life circumstances are attuned to the problems this will cause.

                    I see semi supportive comments showup even on general tech sites, where I feel they should know better. For the general population? I don't know what it would take to get them to oppose "protecting the children"(lulz). If all this(looks around, stretches arms) doesn't cause alarm, I don't know what will.

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                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                      The goal isn't to protect children,
                      the goal is to de-anonymize every comment and action on the internet, associating it with a legal ID, by eventually requesting official identification from every adult using a computer.

                      Some politicians have already stated this plainly.

                      This leads to censorship of anyone criticizing their government.

                      This leads to repression of marginalized people, especially immigrants, people of color, and trans and gender diverse people.

                      This leads to self-censorship of any comments or actions that could be interpreted against the system. Such as speaking out against fascism and authoritarian surveillance, or defending human rights publicly.

                      This leads to total control of the population and its tools of communications.

                      This leads to the end of democracy, centralizing power even more in the hands of a few.

                      Do not let them do this to us.

                      #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #Authoritarianism #HumanRights

                      unfinishedsymphony@gts.epigaea.netU This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #14

                      @Em0nM4stodon In the US, we need to fight against KOSA, which is advancing in our legislature.

                      The Kids Online Safety Act Will Make the Internet Worse for Everyone

                      This bill won’t bother big tech. Large companies will be able to manage this regulation, which is why Apple and X have agreed to support it. In fact, X helped negotiate the text of the last version of this bill we saw. Meanwhile, those companies’ smaller competitors will be left scrambling to comply. Under KOSA, a small platform hosting mental health discussion boards will be just as vulnerable as Meta or TikTok—but much less able to defend itself. 

                      https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/05/kids-online-safety-act-will-make-internet-worse-everyone

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                      • lxskllr@mastodon.worldL lxskllr@mastodon.world

                        @Em0nM4stodon

                        It's kind of preaching to the choir here. Mastodon seems to be a haven for peeps, either by vocation, or life circumstances are attuned to the problems this will cause.

                        I see semi supportive comments showup even on general tech sites, where I feel they should know better. For the general population? I don't know what it would take to get them to oppose "protecting the children"(lulz). If all this(looks around, stretches arms) doesn't cause alarm, I don't know what will.

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                        stinson_108@mastodon.social
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                        #15

                        @lxskllr @Em0nM4stodon

                        The tech types--and not the tech bros--understand full well the implication of the "common sense measures to protect the children."

                        Remind them that even public figures need the protection of anonymity. Publius was the pseudonym of John Jay, James Madison, and Alexander Hamilton.

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                        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                          The goal isn't to protect children,
                          the goal is to de-anonymize every comment and action on the internet, associating it with a legal ID, by eventually requesting official identification from every adult using a computer.

                          Some politicians have already stated this plainly.

                          This leads to censorship of anyone criticizing their government.

                          This leads to repression of marginalized people, especially immigrants, people of color, and trans and gender diverse people.

                          This leads to self-censorship of any comments or actions that could be interpreted against the system. Such as speaking out against fascism and authoritarian surveillance, or defending human rights publicly.

                          This leads to total control of the population and its tools of communications.

                          This leads to the end of democracy, centralizing power even more in the hands of a few.

                          Do not let them do this to us.

                          #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #Authoritarianism #HumanRights

                          kkarhan@infosec.spaceK This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #16

                          @Em0nM4stodon it's #Cyberfascism and it's nit enough to merely force them to backpeddle, but DEMAND #HumanRightsBack - WITH INTEREST!

                          • And not just refuse to comply, but actively sabotage #SurveillanceTech!

                          https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/116270391364999713

                          #HumanRights #CivilRights

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                          • unfinishedsymphony@gts.epigaea.netU unfinishedsymphony@gts.epigaea.net

                            @Em0nM4stodon In the US, we need to fight against KOSA, which is advancing in our legislature.

                            The Kids Online Safety Act Will Make the Internet Worse for Everyone

                            This bill won’t bother big tech. Large companies will be able to manage this regulation, which is why Apple and X have agreed to support it. In fact, X helped negotiate the text of the last version of this bill we saw. Meanwhile, those companies’ smaller competitors will be left scrambling to comply. Under KOSA, a small platform hosting mental health discussion boards will be just as vulnerable as Meta or TikTok—but much less able to defend itself. 

                            https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/05/kids-online-safety-act-will-make-internet-worse-everyone

                            kkarhan@infosec.spaceK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #17

                            @unfinishedsymphony @Em0nM4stodon I consider the #USA a #RogueNation akin to "P.R." #China, #Russia, #KSA, #NorthKorea and #Iran:

                            • One does not comply to their demands!
                            • One does not cooperate with them!
                            • One does not regard them as anything but a hostile actor / force!
                            • One does not trust them with anything regardless of triviality!!

                            https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/116270391364999713

                            #Cyberfascism

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                            • accordingtowouter@mastodon.worldA accordingtowouter@mastodon.world

                              @Em0nM4stodon It’s those in power who want this. To increase their control over us. And then there are those stupid idiots who say: ‘I’ve got nothing to hide. Go ahead.’

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                              #18

                              @AccordingtoWouter https://hachyderm.io/@davidculley/116270818283255503

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                              • unfinishedsymphony@gts.epigaea.netU unfinishedsymphony@gts.epigaea.net

                                @Em0nM4stodon In the US, we need to fight against KOSA, which is advancing in our legislature.

                                The Kids Online Safety Act Will Make the Internet Worse for Everyone

                                This bill won’t bother big tech. Large companies will be able to manage this regulation, which is why Apple and X have agreed to support it. In fact, X helped negotiate the text of the last version of this bill we saw. Meanwhile, those companies’ smaller competitors will be left scrambling to comply. Under KOSA, a small platform hosting mental health discussion boards will be just as vulnerable as Meta or TikTok—but much less able to defend itself. 

                                https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/05/kids-online-safety-act-will-make-internet-worse-everyone

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                                #19

                                @unfinishedsymphony @Em0nM4stodon The defense will be to stop using hosting inside the U$

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                                • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

                                  @Em0nM4stodon The craziest thing to me is that there is no way a thing like this wouldn't ultimately hurt children far more than anything they are *claiming* it supposedly prevents.

                                  Like how does that not just automatically become a deal killer for all these bills?

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                                  #20

                                  @nazokiyoubinbou @Em0nM4stodon Remember, these creeps want to KILL those kids who happen to be LGBTQ.

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                                  • radicalecologist@todon.euR radicalecologist@todon.eu

                                    @Em0nM4stodon
                                    This is why I advocate for #CyberRiot and sabotage to show them that we control the computer and will take power back from them. Action must start now or we will be fighting from the back foot, again.

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                                    #21

                                    @RadicalEcologist @Em0nM4stodon No server or app should be able to comply with age/identity verification without being hacked and knocked off the Internet.

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                                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                      The goal isn't to protect children,
                                      the goal is to de-anonymize every comment and action on the internet, associating it with a legal ID, by eventually requesting official identification from every adult using a computer.

                                      Some politicians have already stated this plainly.

                                      This leads to censorship of anyone criticizing their government.

                                      This leads to repression of marginalized people, especially immigrants, people of color, and trans and gender diverse people.

                                      This leads to self-censorship of any comments or actions that could be interpreted against the system. Such as speaking out against fascism and authoritarian surveillance, or defending human rights publicly.

                                      This leads to total control of the population and its tools of communications.

                                      This leads to the end of democracy, centralizing power even more in the hands of a few.

                                      Do not let them do this to us.

                                      #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #Authoritarianism #HumanRights

                                      peter_panther@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #22

                                      @Em0nM4stodon

                                      https://fightchatcontrol.eu/

                                      To get MEPs uphold the vote against mass surveilance of messengers.

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                                      • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

                                        @Em0nM4stodon The craziest thing to me is that there is no way a thing like this wouldn't ultimately hurt children far more than anything they are *claiming* it supposedly prevents.

                                        Like how does that not just automatically become a deal killer for all these bills?

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                                        #23

                                        @nazokiyoubinbou
                                        The only care they have for children is the type that lands them in the Epstein files.
                                        @Em0nM4stodon

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                                        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                          The goal isn't to protect children,
                                          the goal is to de-anonymize every comment and action on the internet, associating it with a legal ID, by eventually requesting official identification from every adult using a computer.

                                          Some politicians have already stated this plainly.

                                          This leads to censorship of anyone criticizing their government.

                                          This leads to repression of marginalized people, especially immigrants, people of color, and trans and gender diverse people.

                                          This leads to self-censorship of any comments or actions that could be interpreted against the system. Such as speaking out against fascism and authoritarian surveillance, or defending human rights publicly.

                                          This leads to total control of the population and its tools of communications.

                                          This leads to the end of democracy, centralizing power even more in the hands of a few.

                                          Do not let them do this to us.

                                          #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #Authoritarianism #HumanRights

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                                          #24

                                          @Em0nM4stodon because we cannot encrypt WhatsApp messages and send base64 over Whatsapp protocol? Just see these end to end eNcRyPtEd systems as plain old good SMTP. Then just apply S/MIME on top of it. 🤷‍♂️🤣

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