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Somebody has leaked CVE-2026-109618 and CVE-2026-109619 in PHP before the patch is out.

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  • dragon@toast.dragon2611.netD This user is from outside of this forum
    dragon@toast.dragon2611.netD This user is from outside of this forum
    dragon@toast.dragon2611.net
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    #98

    @GossiTheDog @CenturyAvocado do the patches actually fix it as I'm seeing rumors that maybe not or another similar exploit

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    • dragon@toast.dragon2611.netD This user is from outside of this forum
      dragon@toast.dragon2611.netD This user is from outside of this forum
      dragon@toast.dragon2611.net
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      #99

      @GossiTheDog @CenturyAvocado urrgh 😭

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      • bontchev@infosec.exchangeB bontchev@infosec.exchange

        @GossiTheDog More information, from various sources:

        https://medium.com/@costin.raiu/php2shell-apocalypse-b8dae59dd753

        https://cybersecuritynews.com/php-early-exploitation-attempts/

        Exploitation attempts seem to have started, despite the lack of public weaponizable exploit.

        bontchev@infosec.exchangeB This user is from outside of this forum
        bontchev@infosec.exchangeB This user is from outside of this forum
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        #100

        @GossiTheDog And even more. (Serious stuff starts after the comic at the beginning.):

        https://calif.io/php2shell/

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        • nemo@mas.toN This user is from outside of this forum
          nemo@mas.toN This user is from outside of this forum
          nemo@mas.to
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          #101

          @GossiTheDog 💯 #php https://mastodon.social/@BjornW/117479108053805974

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          • christopherkunz@chaos.socialC christopherkunz@chaos.social

            @GossiTheDog yeah, I'm calling bs on this too. From a place of "having tried the poc", see e-mail for details.
            https://chaos.social/@christopherkunz/117477368766737839

            anttiryt@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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            anttiryt@mastodon.social
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            #102

            @christopherkunz @GossiTheDog What if this was just some readiness test from counter-intelligence? Tomorrow is told there was no exploit. Only hundred thousand servers rummaging through launchpad for software updates.

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              PHP releasing patches tomorrow for CVE-2026-109618 and CVE-2026-109619

              Fixed versions will be 8.5.12, 8.4.27, 8.3.36, 8.2.35

              All others are end-of-life but are still vulnerable - the vulns date back to versions from 2004 onwards.

              https://www.php.net/archive/2026.php#2026-10-20-1

              daanbrg@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #103

              @GossiTheDog According to the post below, 8.5.12 introduced a new vulnerability

              https://fedi.katze.sh/@elise/117479383739450605

              (edit: no, different vuln, I missed the details earlier in their thread)

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              • daanbrg@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                daanbrg@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                daanbrg@mastodon.social
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                #104

                @GossiTheDog Ah yes sorry, you are right - the first part of their thread did not cross my eyes at first

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                • synlogic4242@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
                  synlogic4242@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
                  synlogic4242@social.vivaldi.net
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                  #105

                  @GossiTheDog agreed

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                  • shawnhooper@fosstodon.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
                    shawnhooper@fosstodon.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
                    shawnhooper@fosstodon.org
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                    #106

                    @GossiTheDog Especially with companies breaking the embargo.

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                    • di4na@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #107

                      @FediThing @nemo @GossiTheDog as someone that has a particular interest and hobby into talking and exploring the hobbyist maintainer side of things... this is an actually well funded and managed project compared to the vast majority of what runs the internet.

                      The PHP foundation is easily in the top1% if not the top 0.1% of these FOSS projects in term of resources.

                      I know it is even worse said like that but... yeeeeeep

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                        shadsterling@mastodon.social
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                        #108

                        @fedipete @GossiTheDog where 4 art thou, PKI?

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                        • davecb@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          davecb@hachyderm.io
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                          #109

                          @GossiTheDog

                          You wrote "... it’s mostly volunteers powering the internet while almost everybody freeloads off ‘em, tale as old as, well, the internet."

                          Hmmn, I've been reading economic philosophies in passing, am]nd notice freeloading seems to be something every system seems to have to face.

                          Which have been studied, sometimes to death...
                          Anyone in economics here?
                          If not, please boost for reach

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                          • di4na@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            di4na@hachyderm.io
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                            #110

                            @FediThing @nemo @GossiTheDog I mean... I don't see this as so negative. I see this as a positive. These companies have massive rosters of devs and can barely do anything close to what the volunteers do. It shows they are just.. bad at this and not a danger.

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #111

                              OpenAI ambulance chasing the PHP vulnerabilities and pretending they found and disclosed them (they did not) is disgusting. It’s a media play and it’s really gross, and says a lot about OpenAI.

                              gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG patrick@retro.socialP jztusk@mastodon.socialJ newshund@mastodon.socialN jacques@mastodon.chester.id.auJ 7 Replies Last reply
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                              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                OpenAI ambulance chasing the PHP vulnerabilities and pretending they found and disclosed them (they did not) is disgusting. It’s a media play and it’s really gross, and says a lot about OpenAI.

                                gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #112

                                Regarding the rumours the PHP patches don’t fix the vulnerabilities - it’s not true, they patched the vulnerabilities of issue.

                                The rumours are also separate issue which people are mixing up. Don’t panic about that one.

                                https://fedi.katze.sh/@elise/117480160480660575

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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  Regarding the rumours the PHP patches don’t fix the vulnerabilities - it’s not true, they patched the vulnerabilities of issue.

                                  The rumours are also separate issue which people are mixing up. Don’t panic about that one.

                                  https://fedi.katze.sh/@elise/117480160480660575

                                  david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  david_chisnall@infosec.exchange
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                                  #113

                                  @GossiTheDog

                                  Regarding the rumours the PHP patches don’t fix the vulnerabilities - it’s not true, they patched the vulnerabilities of issue.

                                  Having reviewed their diff, I'm not sure how you can make that claim. Their fix for data corruption in out-of-memory conditions was to add explicit error handling on a huge number of code paths. A change of that level of complexity almost certainly misses error handling from one or more paths that matter. It is not a systemic fix that would address the root cause, it is a load of duck tape applied across the entire codebase.

                                  I think it's reasonable to claim that it fixes the specific exploit path used in the PoC but I am not at all convinced that it fixes the vulnerability.

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    A really good mitigation for this btw - AppArmor or SELinux.

                                    Google something like apparmor restrict php from executing commands. Works against these CVEs.

                                    Sucks for cybersecurity vendors who shipped their appliances using PHP without SELinux or AppArmor, of course.

                                    pasmac@atmasto.comP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    pasmac@atmasto.com
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                                    #114

                                    @GossiTheDog really important message 🙂 thank you for sharing

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      OpenAI ambulance chasing the PHP vulnerabilities and pretending they found and disclosed them (they did not) is disgusting. It’s a media play and it’s really gross, and says a lot about OpenAI.

                                      patrick@retro.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #115

                                      @GossiTheDog Has https://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/show-them-the-code vibes.

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                                      • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                                        @GossiTheDog

                                        Regarding the rumours the PHP patches don’t fix the vulnerabilities - it’s not true, they patched the vulnerabilities of issue.

                                        Having reviewed their diff, I'm not sure how you can make that claim. Their fix for data corruption in out-of-memory conditions was to add explicit error handling on a huge number of code paths. A change of that level of complexity almost certainly misses error handling from one or more paths that matter. It is not a systemic fix that would address the root cause, it is a load of duck tape applied across the entire codebase.

                                        I think it's reasonable to claim that it fixes the specific exploit path used in the PoC but I am not at all convinced that it fixes the vulnerability.

                                        redsakana@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        redsakana@infosec.exchange
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                                        #116

                                        @david_chisnall Since the blog that describes the exploitation process recommends memory_limit = -1 (disabled) as a mitigation if patching is not possible, I was thinking whether it would make sense as a defense-in-depth measure to run with the internal memory_limit disabled all the time. Instead set up rlimits or cgroups or whatever to immediately kill off workers that hit the limit.

                                        I don't deal in php much and this probably isn't suited to all installations, but in theory this feels like it should eliminate a class of vulnerabilities stemming from retroactively implemented OOM recovery. @GossiTheDog

                                        (edit: turns out that convincing Linux to JUST KILL THE FUCKING PROCESS DO NOT SEND ENOMEM DO NOT TRY ANYTHING without resorting to LD_PRELOAD tricks is hard, setting both memory.max and memory.swap.max maybe kinda does it?)

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                                        • davidportodiaz@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #117

                                          @GossiTheDog Those PHP volunteers deserve some appreciation 👏

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