20,000 mail accounts.
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@khleedril @anneroth @cavallette like extrajudicial. Meaning "outside of [thing]"
@draeath @anneroth @cavallette Yes, except in his imagination: more legal than just legal.
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@Spirit @anneroth @cavallette Surely you can provide a link to it then? 20,000 blogs?
@eclinton @anneroth @cavallette it was closer to 7000-10000 from a scrapper this year. Not sure where the 20,000 comes from. Anyway read the Treasury press release. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616
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20,000 mail accounts.
20,000 blogs.
5,000 mailing lists.
1,500 websites.In Europe.
Run by volunteers of @cavallette, perfectly legal, and decidedly antifascist, feminist, queer.
Destroyed and shut down by Trump's administration, extra legally.
It is astonishingly quiet.
#Autistici
@anneroth @cavallette Not a judge, a court, or jury had anything to say about it.
Europe is not sovereign, we are a client state of the USA.
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@anneroth @cavallette Europe should put "The Heritage Foundation" on the European terrorlist.
@fenixmaster
That seems perfectly justified.
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@Spirit @anneroth @cavallette Surely you can provide a link to it then? 20,000 blogs?
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@eclinton @anneroth @cavallette it was closer to 7000-10000 from a scrapper this year. Not sure where the 20,000 comes from. Anyway read the Treasury press release. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616
@Spirit @anneroth @cavallette thank you.
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@anneroth @cavallette you need a source for a bold claim of this nature. This is likely false.
@eclinton @anneroth @cavallette The post you’re replying to has many ”claims”, and you’re just making a sweeping statement about the post. Your post is just spreading disinformation.
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20,000 mail accounts.
20,000 blogs.
5,000 mailing lists.
1,500 websites.In Europe.
Run by volunteers of @cavallette, perfectly legal, and decidedly antifascist, feminist, queer.
Destroyed and shut down by Trump's administration, extra legally.
It is astonishingly quiet.
#Autistici
@anneroth @cavallette waiting out the infancy has done wonders for nobody.
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20,000 mail accounts.
20,000 blogs.
5,000 mailing lists.
1,500 websites.In Europe.
Run by volunteers of @cavallette, perfectly legal, and decidedly antifascist, feminist, queer.
Destroyed and shut down by Trump's administration, extra legally.
It is astonishingly quiet.
#Autistici
@anneroth @cavallette wow, diese Dimensionen waren mir nicht bewusst
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20,000 mail accounts.
20,000 blogs.
5,000 mailing lists.
1,500 websites.In Europe.
Run by volunteers of @cavallette, perfectly legal, and decidedly antifascist, feminist, queer.
Destroyed and shut down by Trump's administration, extra legally.
It is astonishingly quiet.
#Autistici
What happened? I don't see any articles on this. Did they just lose funding (and if so, why where they funded by the US if they were in the EU anyway?) or did something else happen? You have an article? -
20,000 mail accounts.
20,000 blogs.
5,000 mailing lists.
1,500 websites.In Europe.
Run by volunteers of @cavallette, perfectly legal, and decidedly antifascist, feminist, queer.
Destroyed and shut down by Trump's administration, extra legally.
It is astonishingly quiet.
#Autistici
So set up an AlterNIC. It's been done before.
Because even when the problem isn't DNS, it's ALWAYS DNS!
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What happened? I don't see any articles on this. Did they just lose funding (and if so, why where they funded by the US if they were in the EU anyway?) or did something else happen? You have an article?
@djsumdog @cavallette @anneroth The US declaration of A/I as a terrorist group puts secondary sanctions on those companies that do business with them, from selling them DNS names to providing server space, network hookups, and bank accounts. Many companies won't want to risk those sanctions and will end their relationships.
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So set up an AlterNIC. It's been done before.
Because even when the problem isn't DNS, it's ALWAYS DNS!
@barbra @anneroth @cavallette An alternate DNS root only helps to the extent that anyone uses it. Since few people use those, it's unlikely to help much. And the challenges are far wider than just losing DNS names: A/I will lose bank accounts, hosting space, and most other services provided by businesses at risk from US secondary sanctions on those doing business with A/I.
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@djsumdog @cavallette @anneroth The US declaration of A/I as a terrorist group puts secondary sanctions on those companies that do business with them, from selling them DNS names to providing server space, network hookups, and bank accounts. Many companies won't want to risk those sanctions and will end their relationships.
@david42 @djsumdog @cavallette @anneroth The team at @thenextweb has more info on how that is working in practice & how designating a group as a terrorist organization with no evidence essentially functions as a ban on free speech: https://thenextweb.com/news/autistici-inventati-shutdown-us-terrorist-designation
The exact numbers of blogs, mailboxes, etc may vary, but if a government does it & other governments, banks, domain registrars, etc. cooperate, that incentivizes using it to go after political opponents (which is authoritarian, by definition)
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@barbra @anneroth @cavallette An alternate DNS root only helps to the extent that anyone uses it. Since few people use those, it's unlikely to help much. And the challenges are far wider than just losing DNS names: A/I will lose bank accounts, hosting space, and most other services provided by businesses at risk from US secondary sanctions on those doing business with A/I.
@david42 @anneroth @cavallette
Sure there's a problem with uptake.
But it's the only way to get out from under the US boot on our collective necks.
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@david42 @djsumdog @cavallette @anneroth The team at @thenextweb has more info on how that is working in practice & how designating a group as a terrorist organization with no evidence essentially functions as a ban on free speech: https://thenextweb.com/news/autistici-inventati-shutdown-us-terrorist-designation
The exact numbers of blogs, mailboxes, etc may vary, but if a government does it & other governments, banks, domain registrars, etc. cooperate, that incentivizes using it to go after political opponents (which is authoritarian, by definition)
Huh, but Rose City Antifa is a terrorist organization. They're evil spoiled children who've destroyed so much. But, so has the State of Israel. I guess it just matters how powerful your terrorist organization is.
These people seem incompetent though, and some of the people they support do seem to have committed pretty serious crimes. PirateBay, Cock.li and Kiwifarms are groups that have had to fight tooth and nail to stay alive and have learned how to route around censorship.
It seems like the leaders of this group might have just been tired of dealing with what they knew had gotten out of hand, and just pulled the plug seeing this as a 'get out of jail free' card.
HN comments at the bottom are interesting: -
Huh, but Rose City Antifa is a terrorist organization. They're evil spoiled children who've destroyed so much. But, so has the State of Israel. I guess it just matters how powerful your terrorist organization is.
These people seem incompetent though, and some of the people they support do seem to have committed pretty serious crimes. PirateBay, Cock.li and Kiwifarms are groups that have had to fight tooth and nail to stay alive and have learned how to route around censorship.
It seems like the leaders of this group might have just been tired of dealing with what they knew had gotten out of hand, and just pulled the plug seeing this as a 'get out of jail free' card.
HN comments at the bottom are interesting:@djsumdog@djsumdog.com @joecardillo@federate.social @cavallette@mastodon.bida.im @david42@mastodon.online @anneroth@systemli.social it is in fact VERY easy to not appeal to domestic terrorists regardless of political affiliation and I am not entirely sure why it is so hard to disown these people. they dug their grave really deep.
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@anneroth @cavallette Europe should put "The Heritage Foundation" on the European terrorlist.
@fenixmaster
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20,000 mail accounts.
20,000 blogs.
5,000 mailing lists.
1,500 websites.In Europe.
Run by volunteers of @cavallette, perfectly legal, and decidedly antifascist, feminist, queer.
Destroyed and shut down by Trump's administration, extra legally.
It is astonishingly quiet.
#Autistici
@anneroth @cavallette From afar, we're wondering if Riseup will be next...
