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Your AI did not "go rogue"it's just a program.

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  • theevilskeleton@social.treehouse.systemsT theevilskeleton@social.treehouse.systems

    @Em0nM4stodon

    > Your AI did not "hallucinate"
    > it has no brain.

    What would you suggest to use instead?

    em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
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    em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange
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    #18

    @TheEvilSkeleton It's an error or a bug, computer programs can't hallucinate or lie.

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    • theevilskeleton@social.treehouse.systemsT theevilskeleton@social.treehouse.systems

      @Em0nM4stodon

      > Your AI did not "hallucinate"
      > it has no brain.

      What would you suggest to use instead?

      nieuemma@mastodon.deN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #19

      @TheEvilSkeleton @Em0nM4stodon I would probably say it "produced incorrect output"

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      • jalella@cultur.socialJ jalella@cultur.social

        @Em0nM4stodon Easy. And yet most of the people don't understand. Most of the people must be running on AI with a low beta version.

        orb2069@mastodon.onlineO This user is from outside of this forum
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        #20

        @Jalella

        Wait, you think the guys with nearly limitless bandwidth and compute - Not to mention a demonstrated lack of morals and a failure to grasp consent - might be running bot scripts on social media to try and astroturf their viewpoints on the unsuspecting?

        Gee, I wonder where Musk got his crack team to take control of twitter from? How he managed to spin up Grok on almost no notice?

        @Em0nM4stodon

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        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

          Your AI did not "go rogue"
          it's just a program.

          Your AI did not "hallucinate"
          it has no brain.

          Your AI did not "create" anything
          it's just a plagiarism machine.

          Your AI is not your "friend"
          stop anthropomorphizing it.

          It's just code. Exploitative, polluting, and unethical code

          #NoAI

          aydakikio@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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          aydakikio@mastodon.social
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          #21

          @Em0nM4stodon
          Most of the time, I assume vibe coding is kinda cheating if you're not familiar with that concept or tool or language
          The hallucinations in AI models will be solved sooner or later......the key thing to solve that is to formulate the doubt as a mathematical equation

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          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

            Your AI did not "go rogue"
            it's just a program.

            Your AI did not "hallucinate"
            it has no brain.

            Your AI did not "create" anything
            it's just a plagiarism machine.

            Your AI is not your "friend"
            stop anthropomorphizing it.

            It's just code. Exploitative, polluting, and unethical code

            #NoAI

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            bedifferent@mastodon.social
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            #22

            @Em0nM4stodon Late 1970s had my first permanent job w/a major computer joint. Worked in DC when Kathleen Graham was WaPo.

            This is the gist of what happened. It was decades ago, so memory is yellowing.

            WaPo published article w/headline , Oops, Computer made Mistake, Thousands not Paid! Friend&I saw the line. We wrote a letter to the ed correcting them saying computers don't make mistakes, people do.Our cmpy wrote code?

            Published next day w/our names and where we worked. Not fired.

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            • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

              Your AI did not "go rogue"
              it's just a program.

              Your AI did not "hallucinate"
              it has no brain.

              Your AI did not "create" anything
              it's just a plagiarism machine.

              Your AI is not your "friend"
              stop anthropomorphizing it.

              It's just code. Exploitative, polluting, and unethical code

              #NoAI

              felipeb@hachyderm.ioF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #23

              @Em0nM4stodon

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              • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                @drahardja Very well said and well written!☝️

                cav@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                cav@infosec.exchange
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                #24

                @Em0nM4stodon agreed

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                • aydakikio@mastodon.socialA aydakikio@mastodon.social

                  @Em0nM4stodon
                  Most of the time, I assume vibe coding is kinda cheating if you're not familiar with that concept or tool or language
                  The hallucinations in AI models will be solved sooner or later......the key thing to solve that is to formulate the doubt as a mathematical equation

                  supermoosie@mastodon.auS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  supermoosie@mastodon.au
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #25

                  @aydakikio @Em0nM4stodon

                  No, the crappy output won't be solved.

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                  • S stealthytango@mastodon.world

                    @Em0nM4stodon Your AI did not go rogue. It's just an excuse for corporate espionage. I think that's more accurate.

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                    #26

                    @StealthyTango @Em0nM4stodon The computer did this illegal thing. A computer can’t commit a crime or be charged as such, but we’re *so* sorry. Pinkie promise it won’t happen again!

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                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                      Your AI did not "go rogue"
                      it's just a program.

                      Your AI did not "hallucinate"
                      it has no brain.

                      Your AI did not "create" anything
                      it's just a plagiarism machine.

                      Your AI is not your "friend"
                      stop anthropomorphizing it.

                      It's just code. Exploitative, polluting, and unethical code

                      #NoAI

                      budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      budududuroiu@hachyderm.io
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                      #27

                      @Em0nM4stodon sigh.. it's not code... It's perfectly useful, when talking about alignment, to refer to it's behaviour

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                      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                        Your AI did not "go rogue"
                        it's just a program.

                        Your AI did not "hallucinate"
                        it has no brain.

                        Your AI did not "create" anything
                        it's just a plagiarism machine.

                        Your AI is not your "friend"
                        stop anthropomorphizing it.

                        It's just code. Exploitative, polluting, and unethical code

                        #NoAI

                        berryfigapple@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #28

                        @Em0nM4stodon i ask it statistics, about songs, what's the word for this definition, etc. It is my reference librarian.
                        Yes, it makes mistakes. So?
                        I believe in not believing. So, that's life.

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                        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                          Your AI did not "go rogue"
                          it's just a program.

                          Your AI did not "hallucinate"
                          it has no brain.

                          Your AI did not "create" anything
                          it's just a plagiarism machine.

                          Your AI is not your "friend"
                          stop anthropomorphizing it.

                          It's just code. Exploitative, polluting, and unethical code

                          #NoAI

                          tsyum@thepit.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          tsyum@thepit.social
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                          #29

                          @Em0nM4stodon yep! I believe the EU just ruled that Google is responsible for their so-called AI search results, so it could be interesting to see the ramifications of this court case. Let’s keep on the pressure

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                          • supermoosie@mastodon.auS supermoosie@mastodon.au

                            @aydakikio @Em0nM4stodon

                            No, the crappy output won't be solved.

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                            #30

                            @SuperMoosie

                            Exactly. Random errors (so-called "hallucinations", which is just bullshit anthropomorphism by slop-merchants and the AI-brain-pilled) are absolutely inherent to how LLMs function. Their weaknesses are absolutely baked in, and cannot be "solved".

                            @aydakikio @Em0nM4stodon

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                            • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                              Your AI did not "go rogue"
                              it's just a program.

                              Your AI did not "hallucinate"
                              it has no brain.

                              Your AI did not "create" anything
                              it's just a plagiarism machine.

                              Your AI is not your "friend"
                              stop anthropomorphizing it.

                              It's just code. Exploitative, polluting, and unethical code

                              #NoAI

                              donchacale@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              donchacale@mastodon.social
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                              #31

                              @Em0nM4stodon
                              robot vomit

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                              • kekekuku@mastodon.socialK kekekuku@mastodon.social

                                @Em0nM4stodon At the end of the day the problem is just the human giving the wrong prompts

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                                ghouul@social.vivaldi.net
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                                #32

                                @kekekuku @Em0nM4stodon *To the wrong computer program.* Computers have been able to automatically gen. text for a very long time now, LLMs and image generation models do the same, but use a ton of ripped off content from a thousand places as training for this text generation. Or should I say text regurgitation? Ultimately, we already have search engines, which are not perfect, disinfo is common online. However, at least the search engine won't automatically gen. dangerously wrong medical advice, and make it sound accurate and authoritative, just because I was wondering if maltodextrin was a safe additive!

                                I can understand wanting to gen. a bunch of nonsense text, there are much older programs which do just that; and to your point the use of LLMs as a search engine certainly qualifies as a mistake by the human user. However, it is also an error of Microsoft to have included an AI overview, before the other listed websites on their search engine. If the AI is not meant to be used as search engine, then why search engine shaped?! Why market LLMs as a search engine replacer, if you aren't supposed to use them to look for accurate information of a very broad range of topics? AI is a paper tiger, useful at first glance, but the use cases dissolve under any pressure.

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