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  3. there's a lot of bullshit and disappointment about 2025 being a boring version of the future but this video is righting a lot of wrongs for me

there's a lot of bullshit and disappointment about 2025 being a boring version of the future but this video is righting a lot of wrongs for me

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  • beanclock@jorts.horseB This user is from outside of this forum
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    there's a lot of bullshit and disappointment about 2025 being a boring version of the future but this video is righting a lot of wrongs for me

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    • beanclock@jorts.horseB beanclock@jorts.horse

      there's a lot of bullshit and disappointment about 2025 being a boring version of the future but this video is righting a lot of wrongs for me

      tunda@layer8.spaceT This user is from outside of this forum
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      @beanclock Happy KI - generated video

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      • tunda@layer8.spaceT tunda@layer8.space

        @beanclock Happy KI - generated video

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        @tunda @beanclock How do you figure?

        (I can't see any obvious "tells".)

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        • beanclock@jorts.horseB beanclock@jorts.horse

          there's a lot of bullshit and disappointment about 2025 being a boring version of the future but this video is righting a lot of wrongs for me

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          @beanclock I would for me, too, if it was real - but that's a Unitree G1 & I met one at a tech convention a few months ago & I absolutely do NOT believe it can move like that. Fucking thing can barely walk.

          Yes, I've seen their other demo videos & I'm certain they're faked. Check out this one, for example; pretty sure it defies physics & also, hard to believe that it does this much falling & being kicked etc. without a single scratch or scuff anywhere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5sX7L3sfT0

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          • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

            @tunda @beanclock How do you figure?

            (I can't see any obvious "tells".)

            jwcph@helvede.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            @datarama @tunda @beanclock You can see the most obvious one: If it's too good to be true, it's fake. No bipedal robot in the world can move like that - the only videos that show robots doing this kind of stuff is from companies boosting them. Not a single independent news report or, jeez louise, phone video from one of the public demos they would be doing around the fucking clock all over the fucking world if they could really perform like this...

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              @datarama @tunda @beanclock You can see the most obvious one: If it's too good to be true, it's fake. No bipedal robot in the world can move like that - the only videos that show robots doing this kind of stuff is from companies boosting them. Not a single independent news report or, jeez louise, phone video from one of the public demos they would be doing around the fucking clock all over the fucking world if they could really perform like this...

              tunda@layer8.spaceT This user is from outside of this forum
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              @jwcph @datarama @beanclock

              The most compelling evidence is the poor video quality. In this era of HD and 4K, smartphones, etc., we are being fobbed off with pixelated motion blur.

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              • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                @datarama @tunda @beanclock You can see the most obvious one: If it's too good to be true, it's fake. No bipedal robot in the world can move like that - the only videos that show robots doing this kind of stuff is from companies boosting them. Not a single independent news report or, jeez louise, phone video from one of the public demos they would be doing around the fucking clock all over the fucking world if they could really perform like this...

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                @jwcph @tunda @beanclock Sure, all the most impressive humanoid robot feats are teleoperated rather than autonomous - but this one is *obviously* teleoperated, though? (for a value of "tele-" with short enough range for the operator to kick himself in the balls).

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                • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                  @jwcph @tunda @beanclock Sure, all the most impressive humanoid robot feats are teleoperated rather than autonomous - but this one is *obviously* teleoperated, though? (for a value of "tele-" with short enough range for the operator to kick himself in the balls).

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                  @datarama @tunda @beanclock it's not just that it's teleoperated - it's full CGI.

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                  • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                    @datarama @tunda @beanclock You can see the most obvious one: If it's too good to be true, it's fake. No bipedal robot in the world can move like that - the only videos that show robots doing this kind of stuff is from companies boosting them. Not a single independent news report or, jeez louise, phone video from one of the public demos they would be doing around the fucking clock all over the fucking world if they could really perform like this...

                    st3fan@fedi.caliandroid.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @jwcph
                    Thanks for the hint.
                    Still the "fairytale" transports an important message 😉

                    It is a funny version of the Terminator base story.

                    @datarama @tunda @beanclock

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                    • st3fan@fedi.caliandroid.deS st3fan@fedi.caliandroid.de

                      @jwcph
                      Thanks for the hint.
                      Still the "fairytale" transports an important message 😉

                      It is a funny version of the Terminator base story.

                      @datarama @tunda @beanclock

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                      @st3fan @datarama @tunda @beanclock It's also a way for the vendor to go viral & most of the people who see it will not question it, or will question it wrong (e.g. "It's AI - no, it's not, but at this point a lot of people think that's some sort of incantation & also the only way for something to be fake)...

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                      • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                        @st3fan @datarama @tunda @beanclock It's also a way for the vendor to go viral & most of the people who see it will not question it, or will question it wrong (e.g. "It's AI - no, it's not, but at this point a lot of people think that's some sort of incantation & also the only way for something to be fake)...

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                        @jwcph @st3fan @tunda @beanclock I don't know if it's fake - it might be, you seem to know more about the state of robotics than I do.

                        But I strongly doubt it's AI, which is what I initially responded to. (There are no weirdly wrong details, the see-through bit of the robot head doesn't garble anything when the robot passes in front of it, etc. But it's also possible I can't tell anymore - which is of course the whole point of that technology.)

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                        • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                          @jwcph @st3fan @tunda @beanclock I don't know if it's fake - it might be, you seem to know more about the state of robotics than I do.

                          But I strongly doubt it's AI, which is what I initially responded to. (There are no weirdly wrong details, the see-through bit of the robot head doesn't garble anything when the robot passes in front of it, etc. But it's also possible I can't tell anymore - which is of course the whole point of that technology.)

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                          @datarama @st3fan @tunda @beanclock Definitely not AI - in fact, claiming it is (which I've seen several places already) is *also* the same kind of criti-hype as claiming it's real; you're just simping for AI in stead of simping for robotics...

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