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  3. Why then is the "Trans-Atlantic Data Privacy Framework" (TADPF) still in place whenTrump fired all employees of the "Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board" (PCLOB) in January 2025?

Why then is the "Trans-Atlantic Data Privacy Framework" (TADPF) still in place whenTrump fired all employees of the "Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board" (PCLOB) in January 2025?

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  • davidculley@hachyderm.ioD davidculley@hachyderm.io

    RE: https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission/116628363841732321

    Why then is the "Trans-Atlantic Data Privacy Framework" (TADPF) still in place when
    Trump fired all employees of the "Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board" (PCLOB) in January 2025?

    @EUCommission Why is it not yet illegal to send data from Europe to the USA when the USA doesn't have anything remotely equivalent to European regulations in place to protect the data of Europeans?

    Why did the EU's General Court dismiss on September 3, 2025 the arguments by French MP Philippe Latombe that the TADPF isn't secure?

    netzblockierer@tech.lgbtN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #5

    @davidculley @EUCommission because Zensursula is a coward and buttered up with lobbyist money, that's why!

    https://tech.lgbt/@Netzblockierer/116837899604013135

    #Zensursula #Cowardice #Lobbyism #Corruption

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    • davidculley@hachyderm.ioD davidculley@hachyderm.io

      Yesterday the US Supreme Court ruled that the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is not independent anymore. In fact no US agency is independent anymore. This is huge.

      The FTC being independent is the entire basis for (and the only reason) why Europeans are allowed to send personal data from the EU to the USA.

      Without this basis, Europeans aren't allowed to send any personal data from the EU to the USA. To give the maybe most concrete example, Europeans will be forbidden to use Google Analytics once this comes into effect.

      Did Trump's cronies basically self-destruct US tech dominance over Europe? In their race to authoritarianism, they declared every US law unconstitutional that allows any US agency any independence from Trump. But without independence from Trump, the EU treaty collapses that allows Europeans to send personal data to the USA.

      This means, as Europeans, you aren't allowed to use Google Analytics anymore. No more Google Firebase, no more Braze, no more Sentry. NO MORE PALANTIR.

      > noyb has sent a formal letter to the European Commission today, asking the Commission to take the appropriate steps to repeal the EU-US data deal in an orderly way.
      > noyb will also file a lawsuit in the coming weeks, aiming to allow the CJEU to annul the current deal. However, such a lawsuit typically takes 2-3 years until a final decision is reached.

      If your employer uses Google Analytics, they better start migrating to a self-hosted solution like Matomo or Plausible. Or they will face hefty fines.

      Do I understand this correctly? This would be the biggest self-own and favor the USA could have done us. This seems too good to become reality?!

      https://noyb.eu/en/us-supreme-court-just-blew-eu-us-data-transfers

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      #6

      @davidculley https://hachyderm.io/@davidculley/116837726982363407
      Hard to imagine that they did that on purpose. That means that they issued a ruling while not having a clue what the consequences could be. They just wanted to lick Trumps arse again.

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      • davidculley@hachyderm.ioD davidculley@hachyderm.io

        Yesterday the US Supreme Court ruled that the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is not independent anymore. In fact no US agency is independent anymore. This is huge.

        The FTC being independent is the entire basis for (and the only reason) why Europeans are allowed to send personal data from the EU to the USA.

        Without this basis, Europeans aren't allowed to send any personal data from the EU to the USA. To give the maybe most concrete example, Europeans will be forbidden to use Google Analytics once this comes into effect.

        Did Trump's cronies basically self-destruct US tech dominance over Europe? In their race to authoritarianism, they declared every US law unconstitutional that allows any US agency any independence from Trump. But without independence from Trump, the EU treaty collapses that allows Europeans to send personal data to the USA.

        This means, as Europeans, you aren't allowed to use Google Analytics anymore. No more Google Firebase, no more Braze, no more Sentry. NO MORE PALANTIR.

        > noyb has sent a formal letter to the European Commission today, asking the Commission to take the appropriate steps to repeal the EU-US data deal in an orderly way.
        > noyb will also file a lawsuit in the coming weeks, aiming to allow the CJEU to annul the current deal. However, such a lawsuit typically takes 2-3 years until a final decision is reached.

        If your employer uses Google Analytics, they better start migrating to a self-hosted solution like Matomo or Plausible. Or they will face hefty fines.

        Do I understand this correctly? This would be the biggest self-own and favor the USA could have done us. This seems too good to become reality?!

        https://noyb.eu/en/us-supreme-court-just-blew-eu-us-data-transfers

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        #7

        @davidculley

        Written again to my UK rep about data sharing anything with the USA.

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        • davidculley@hachyderm.ioD davidculley@hachyderm.io

          Yesterday the US Supreme Court ruled that the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is not independent anymore. In fact no US agency is independent anymore. This is huge.

          The FTC being independent is the entire basis for (and the only reason) why Europeans are allowed to send personal data from the EU to the USA.

          Without this basis, Europeans aren't allowed to send any personal data from the EU to the USA. To give the maybe most concrete example, Europeans will be forbidden to use Google Analytics once this comes into effect.

          Did Trump's cronies basically self-destruct US tech dominance over Europe? In their race to authoritarianism, they declared every US law unconstitutional that allows any US agency any independence from Trump. But without independence from Trump, the EU treaty collapses that allows Europeans to send personal data to the USA.

          This means, as Europeans, you aren't allowed to use Google Analytics anymore. No more Google Firebase, no more Braze, no more Sentry. NO MORE PALANTIR.

          > noyb has sent a formal letter to the European Commission today, asking the Commission to take the appropriate steps to repeal the EU-US data deal in an orderly way.
          > noyb will also file a lawsuit in the coming weeks, aiming to allow the CJEU to annul the current deal. However, such a lawsuit typically takes 2-3 years until a final decision is reached.

          If your employer uses Google Analytics, they better start migrating to a self-hosted solution like Matomo or Plausible. Or they will face hefty fines.

          Do I understand this correctly? This would be the biggest self-own and favor the USA could have done us. This seems too good to become reality?!

          https://noyb.eu/en/us-supreme-court-just-blew-eu-us-data-transfers

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          #8

          noyb (None Of Your Business) depends on donations from people like us, in order to protect our interests and to put food on their tables.

          If you want to make an one-off donation, go here.¹

          If you want to make recurring yearly/quarterly donations, go here.² Recurring donations help them better with planning than one-off donations.

          ¹ https://noyb.eu/en/donations-other-support-options
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          • endorama@hachyderm.ioE endorama@hachyderm.io

            @davidculley this is huge! If I interpret the ruling correctly not only the previous deal collapses, but under the new case law where all independent agencies are unconstitutional no other deal on such basis can be made 🤯

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            #9

            @endorama Looks like it.

            According to EU treaty law, oversight must be independent. Since yesterday's ruling there are no independent authorities in the US anymore.

            This means the EU must forbid all US cloud services in the EU.

            Unless the EU bends itself into a pretzel to please our US overlords again.

            Or the USA reverses course.

            Unfortunately, a lawsuit takes years, so we might still need to wait 2–3 years before we are rid of US surveillance firms.

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            • davidculley@hachyderm.ioD davidculley@hachyderm.io

              Yesterday the US Supreme Court ruled that the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is not independent anymore. In fact no US agency is independent anymore. This is huge.

              The FTC being independent is the entire basis for (and the only reason) why Europeans are allowed to send personal data from the EU to the USA.

              Without this basis, Europeans aren't allowed to send any personal data from the EU to the USA. To give the maybe most concrete example, Europeans will be forbidden to use Google Analytics once this comes into effect.

              Did Trump's cronies basically self-destruct US tech dominance over Europe? In their race to authoritarianism, they declared every US law unconstitutional that allows any US agency any independence from Trump. But without independence from Trump, the EU treaty collapses that allows Europeans to send personal data to the USA.

              This means, as Europeans, you aren't allowed to use Google Analytics anymore. No more Google Firebase, no more Braze, no more Sentry. NO MORE PALANTIR.

              > noyb has sent a formal letter to the European Commission today, asking the Commission to take the appropriate steps to repeal the EU-US data deal in an orderly way.
              > noyb will also file a lawsuit in the coming weeks, aiming to allow the CJEU to annul the current deal. However, such a lawsuit typically takes 2-3 years until a final decision is reached.

              If your employer uses Google Analytics, they better start migrating to a self-hosted solution like Matomo or Plausible. Or they will face hefty fines.

              Do I understand this correctly? This would be the biggest self-own and favor the USA could have done us. This seems too good to become reality?!

              https://noyb.eu/en/us-supreme-court-just-blew-eu-us-data-transfers

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              #10

              @davidculley
              The FTC was not only independent, but with open accessible communication channels.
              One of the MAGA-placed judges used the word 'secretly' for the future of FTC, too.

              The US is becoming a fascist country very fast.

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              • davidculley@hachyderm.ioD davidculley@hachyderm.io

                @endorama Looks like it.

                According to EU treaty law, oversight must be independent. Since yesterday's ruling there are no independent authorities in the US anymore.

                This means the EU must forbid all US cloud services in the EU.

                Unless the EU bends itself into a pretzel to please our US overlords again.

                Or the USA reverses course.

                Unfortunately, a lawsuit takes years, so we might still need to wait 2–3 years before we are rid of US surveillance firms.

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                #11

                @davidculley that's how I read it as well. But it's still a huge blow to data transit basis, which was already pretty unstable due to all the previous relevant opinions

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                • scubyw@mastodon.nzS scubyw@mastodon.nz

                  @davidculley https://hachyderm.io/@davidculley/116837726982363407
                  Hard to imagine that they did that on purpose. That means that they issued a ruling while not having a clue what the consequences could be. They just wanted to lick Trumps arse again.

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                  #12

                  @Scubyw I think so too.

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                  • davidculley@hachyderm.ioD davidculley@hachyderm.io

                    Yesterday the US Supreme Court ruled that the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is not independent anymore. In fact no US agency is independent anymore. This is huge.

                    The FTC being independent is the entire basis for (and the only reason) why Europeans are allowed to send personal data from the EU to the USA.

                    Without this basis, Europeans aren't allowed to send any personal data from the EU to the USA. To give the maybe most concrete example, Europeans will be forbidden to use Google Analytics once this comes into effect.

                    Did Trump's cronies basically self-destruct US tech dominance over Europe? In their race to authoritarianism, they declared every US law unconstitutional that allows any US agency any independence from Trump. But without independence from Trump, the EU treaty collapses that allows Europeans to send personal data to the USA.

                    This means, as Europeans, you aren't allowed to use Google Analytics anymore. No more Google Firebase, no more Braze, no more Sentry. NO MORE PALANTIR.

                    > noyb has sent a formal letter to the European Commission today, asking the Commission to take the appropriate steps to repeal the EU-US data deal in an orderly way.
                    > noyb will also file a lawsuit in the coming weeks, aiming to allow the CJEU to annul the current deal. However, such a lawsuit typically takes 2-3 years until a final decision is reached.

                    If your employer uses Google Analytics, they better start migrating to a self-hosted solution like Matomo or Plausible. Or they will face hefty fines.

                    Do I understand this correctly? This would be the biggest self-own and favor the USA could have done us. This seems too good to become reality?!

                    https://noyb.eu/en/us-supreme-court-just-blew-eu-us-data-transfers

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                    #13

                    @davidculley

                    The EU will find a way to allow data to go to the USA.

                    Because the USA demands it.

                    Let's restate that for clarity. The USA is not saying "your data by our rules". It is saying "your data and make up wherever veneer of a mask you need to make it happen".

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                    • rzeta0@mastodon.ieR rzeta0@mastodon.ie

                      @davidculley

                      The EU will find a way to allow data to go to the USA.

                      Because the USA demands it.

                      Let's restate that for clarity. The USA is not saying "your data by our rules". It is saying "your data and make up wherever veneer of a mask you need to make it happen".

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                      #14

                      @rzeta0 I fear so too.

                      The EU will probably rather amend their treaty to remove their requirement for independence, than free us from US surveillance tech.

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