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  • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
    david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
    david_chisnall@infosec.exchange
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    #1

    RE: https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/116226720041425679

    Louder for people at the back:

    If ‘AI’ gives you a 20% productivity increase, in an economic system that rewards growth at the expense of everything else, the rational thing for any company to do is use that productivity increase to expand into new markets. This may involve some redundancies because you need different skills for the new opportunities but they will be matched by increased hiring in the other areas. If you and your competitors both see a 20% increase in productivity and you use it to make people redundant and they use it to ship more products in more areas, then they will grow at your expense. Their products will be better than yours and you will lose market share.

    If you are claiming that you have redundancies because ‘AI’ is increasing productivity, then one of the following is true:

    • Your leadership team does not understand market economics (in which case, investors should worry that the board has not replaced obviously incompetent leadership).
    • You are an unchallengeable monopoly and have already filled all adjacent markets and have literally no possibility of growth (in which case, investors should take note and set their price predictions based on today’s revenue, with no expectation of future growth, which would wipe out over 80% of Meta’s market cap).
    • You are lying about productivity gains (in which case, investors should worry about what else you’re lying about and should start prodding the SEC to investigate).
    gotofritz@hachyderm.ioG earsmeardius@mastodon.socialE lispi314@udongein.xyzL ohir@social.vivaldi.netO 4 Replies Last reply
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    • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

      RE: https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/116226720041425679

      Louder for people at the back:

      If ‘AI’ gives you a 20% productivity increase, in an economic system that rewards growth at the expense of everything else, the rational thing for any company to do is use that productivity increase to expand into new markets. This may involve some redundancies because you need different skills for the new opportunities but they will be matched by increased hiring in the other areas. If you and your competitors both see a 20% increase in productivity and you use it to make people redundant and they use it to ship more products in more areas, then they will grow at your expense. Their products will be better than yours and you will lose market share.

      If you are claiming that you have redundancies because ‘AI’ is increasing productivity, then one of the following is true:

      • Your leadership team does not understand market economics (in which case, investors should worry that the board has not replaced obviously incompetent leadership).
      • You are an unchallengeable monopoly and have already filled all adjacent markets and have literally no possibility of growth (in which case, investors should take note and set their price predictions based on today’s revenue, with no expectation of future growth, which would wipe out over 80% of Meta’s market cap).
      • You are lying about productivity gains (in which case, investors should worry about what else you’re lying about and should start prodding the SEC to investigate).
      gotofritz@hachyderm.ioG This user is from outside of this forum
      gotofritz@hachyderm.ioG This user is from outside of this forum
      gotofritz@hachyderm.io
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      #2

      @david_chisnall

      You are leaving out the most likely one: you have overhired in the zero interest / pandemic era and are using AI as a useful cover to hide the fact

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      • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

        RE: https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/116226720041425679

        Louder for people at the back:

        If ‘AI’ gives you a 20% productivity increase, in an economic system that rewards growth at the expense of everything else, the rational thing for any company to do is use that productivity increase to expand into new markets. This may involve some redundancies because you need different skills for the new opportunities but they will be matched by increased hiring in the other areas. If you and your competitors both see a 20% increase in productivity and you use it to make people redundant and they use it to ship more products in more areas, then they will grow at your expense. Their products will be better than yours and you will lose market share.

        If you are claiming that you have redundancies because ‘AI’ is increasing productivity, then one of the following is true:

        • Your leadership team does not understand market economics (in which case, investors should worry that the board has not replaced obviously incompetent leadership).
        • You are an unchallengeable monopoly and have already filled all adjacent markets and have literally no possibility of growth (in which case, investors should take note and set their price predictions based on today’s revenue, with no expectation of future growth, which would wipe out over 80% of Meta’s market cap).
        • You are lying about productivity gains (in which case, investors should worry about what else you’re lying about and should start prodding the SEC to investigate).
        earsmeardius@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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        earsmeardius@mastodon.social
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        #3

        @david_chisnall Tell me he's not a reptilian.
        You can't.

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        • gotofritz@hachyderm.ioG gotofritz@hachyderm.io

          @david_chisnall

          You are leaving out the most likely one: you have overhired in the zero interest / pandemic era and are using AI as a useful cover to hide the fact

          david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
          david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
          david_chisnall@infosec.exchange
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          #4

          @gotofritz I believe this is a special case of 'You are lying about productivity gains'.

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          • earsmeardius@mastodon.socialE earsmeardius@mastodon.social

            @david_chisnall Tell me he's not a reptilian.
            You can't.

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            xexyl@fosstodon.org
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            @earsmeardius @david_chisnall ah yes. The absurd Babylon Brotherhood conspiracy theory. I can’t check now but there’s a hilarious video on YouTube called something like 7 signs you’re dating a reptile. Some people commenting (when I saw it) were totally taking the absolute piss but iirc some people were dead serious about it. As you would expect the ‘evidence’ can be explained by a lot of things. Obviously. Anyway it’s a hilarious video if you find it.

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            • X xexyl@fosstodon.org

              @earsmeardius @david_chisnall ah yes. The absurd Babylon Brotherhood conspiracy theory. I can’t check now but there’s a hilarious video on YouTube called something like 7 signs you’re dating a reptile. Some people commenting (when I saw it) were totally taking the absolute piss but iirc some people were dead serious about it. As you would expect the ‘evidence’ can be explained by a lot of things. Obviously. Anyway it’s a hilarious video if you find it.

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              @earsmeardius @david_chisnall it MIGHT be this:

              https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6S3e2oj0m6o

              Obviously total rubbish.

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              • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                @gotofritz I believe this is a special case of 'You are lying about productivity gains'.

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                gotofritz@hachyderm.io
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                @david_chisnall

                How?

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                • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                  RE: https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/116226720041425679

                  Louder for people at the back:

                  If ‘AI’ gives you a 20% productivity increase, in an economic system that rewards growth at the expense of everything else, the rational thing for any company to do is use that productivity increase to expand into new markets. This may involve some redundancies because you need different skills for the new opportunities but they will be matched by increased hiring in the other areas. If you and your competitors both see a 20% increase in productivity and you use it to make people redundant and they use it to ship more products in more areas, then they will grow at your expense. Their products will be better than yours and you will lose market share.

                  If you are claiming that you have redundancies because ‘AI’ is increasing productivity, then one of the following is true:

                  • Your leadership team does not understand market economics (in which case, investors should worry that the board has not replaced obviously incompetent leadership).
                  • You are an unchallengeable monopoly and have already filled all adjacent markets and have literally no possibility of growth (in which case, investors should take note and set their price predictions based on today’s revenue, with no expectation of future growth, which would wipe out over 80% of Meta’s market cap).
                  • You are lying about productivity gains (in which case, investors should worry about what else you’re lying about and should start prodding the SEC to investigate).
                  lispi314@udongein.xyzL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @david_chisnall@infosec.exchange With the funny part being that if current investigation & research continues to be correct, it is mostly №3.

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                  • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                    RE: https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/116226720041425679

                    Louder for people at the back:

                    If ‘AI’ gives you a 20% productivity increase, in an economic system that rewards growth at the expense of everything else, the rational thing for any company to do is use that productivity increase to expand into new markets. This may involve some redundancies because you need different skills for the new opportunities but they will be matched by increased hiring in the other areas. If you and your competitors both see a 20% increase in productivity and you use it to make people redundant and they use it to ship more products in more areas, then they will grow at your expense. Their products will be better than yours and you will lose market share.

                    If you are claiming that you have redundancies because ‘AI’ is increasing productivity, then one of the following is true:

                    • Your leadership team does not understand market economics (in which case, investors should worry that the board has not replaced obviously incompetent leadership).
                    • You are an unchallengeable monopoly and have already filled all adjacent markets and have literally no possibility of growth (in which case, investors should take note and set their price predictions based on today’s revenue, with no expectation of future growth, which would wipe out over 80% of Meta’s market cap).
                    • You are lying about productivity gains (in which case, investors should worry about what else you’re lying about and should start prodding the SEC to investigate).
                    ohir@social.vivaldi.netO This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @david_chisnall
                    Fourth bullet: you don't give a trump about who will buy your product or service.

                    Does any #nazitech company works on autonomous agentic buyer now? If so whose money this shopping ai agent is meant to spent? Purchasing power of the #protein buyer population diminishes with each wave of layoffs.

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