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  • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

    RE: https://discuss.systems/@dev/116807460725864716

    The whole presentation is worth the click-through:

    1. Honestly, the metaphorically mangled goose slides in the post make more sense than a lot of the rest of the presentation — which is •really• saying something.

    2. That deck is a magnificent example of why I don't like sharing slides as a means of sharing the content of a talk.

    3. If we •do• attempt to infer the content from the presentation's sloptastic slides alone, it’s a remarkable window into the investor thinking that’s driving the AI bubble: “Exponential money is hiding just around the corner! Get in on the ground floor! Buy now! Buy now and rocket to infinity and beyond!!”

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    #7

    @inthehands Joke’s on them. Eggs *do* lay eggs if you fertilize them. That leads to growth, which means more eggs that lay eggs.

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    • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

      Investors with AI FOMO about other investors with AI FOMO about CEOs with AI FOMO about other AI CEOs with AI FOMO they contracted from their investors

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      #8

      @inthehands

      Gentlemen, we CANNOT ALLOW a mineshaft gap!

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      • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

        Investors with AI FOMO about other investors with AI FOMO about CEOs with AI FOMO about other AI CEOs with AI FOMO they contracted from their investors

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        #9

        Re this post:

        Back in 2012, the Minnesota Orchestra musicians went on strike over a semi-secretive plan from the board to remake the orchestra (one of the best in the world) by slashing player salaries, gutting creative direction, and turning them into a sort of pop-lite-classical easy listening machine of some kind — details very fuzzy, rationale even fuzzier.

        During the dispute, a slide deck of their shadowy plan leaked. It was somewhat garbled and confusing, and missing all the key details and analysis that everyone was dying for. “What are you hiding??” the public cried, “Show us the full plan!!” “What are you talking about? We did!” “No, not just the presentation! The actual plan!”

        A confused period followed during which it became clear that the slide deck •was• the full plan.

        This little gaggle of the Brightest Minds of Business moonlighting on a nonprofit board thought that gutting a local institution required so little thought that when people saw the full analysis, they assumed the board must be hiding something.

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        • cheeseness@mastodon.socialC cheeseness@mastodon.social

          @inthehands Remember when we learned to coexist with intelligent robots 16 years ago? Those were such young, innocent days

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          #10

          @Cheeseness

          And we bring brain computer to life!

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          • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

            @Cheeseness

            And we bring brain computer to life!

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            #11

            @inthehands Goose value!

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            • cheeseness@mastodon.socialC cheeseness@mastodon.social

              @inthehands Goose value!

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              #12

              @Cheeseness

              In every goose, there is a factory!

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              • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                Re this post:

                Back in 2012, the Minnesota Orchestra musicians went on strike over a semi-secretive plan from the board to remake the orchestra (one of the best in the world) by slashing player salaries, gutting creative direction, and turning them into a sort of pop-lite-classical easy listening machine of some kind — details very fuzzy, rationale even fuzzier.

                During the dispute, a slide deck of their shadowy plan leaked. It was somewhat garbled and confusing, and missing all the key details and analysis that everyone was dying for. “What are you hiding??” the public cried, “Show us the full plan!!” “What are you talking about? We did!” “No, not just the presentation! The actual plan!”

                A confused period followed during which it became clear that the slide deck •was• the full plan.

                This little gaggle of the Brightest Minds of Business moonlighting on a nonprofit board thought that gutting a local institution required so little thought that when people saw the full analysis, they assumed the board must be hiding something.

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                #13

                @inthehands Same thing happened with the DNC Autopsy report.

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                • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                  Investors with AI FOMO about other investors with AI FOMO about CEOs with AI FOMO about other AI CEOs with AI FOMO they contracted from their investors

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                  #14

                  @inthehands There's a Blur song in this...

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                  • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                    Re this post:

                    Back in 2012, the Minnesota Orchestra musicians went on strike over a semi-secretive plan from the board to remake the orchestra (one of the best in the world) by slashing player salaries, gutting creative direction, and turning them into a sort of pop-lite-classical easy listening machine of some kind — details very fuzzy, rationale even fuzzier.

                    During the dispute, a slide deck of their shadowy plan leaked. It was somewhat garbled and confusing, and missing all the key details and analysis that everyone was dying for. “What are you hiding??” the public cried, “Show us the full plan!!” “What are you talking about? We did!” “No, not just the presentation! The actual plan!”

                    A confused period followed during which it became clear that the slide deck •was• the full plan.

                    This little gaggle of the Brightest Minds of Business moonlighting on a nonprofit board thought that gutting a local institution required so little thought that when people saw the full analysis, they assumed the board must be hiding something.

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                    #15

                    (I am pleased to report, for those who don't know the story, that the MN Orch musician's union absolutely steamrolled that terrible board. Management locked them out for 15 months, during which time they staged multiple self-produced concerts without any help from the management they supposedly needed to function. The conductor who'd rocketed them to international fame resigned, and began conducting the locked-out orchestra's sold-out concerts. Eventually the board caved, tails between their legs. Many of them left, the tool of an orch president resigned, what remained of the board instated the musicians' preferred candidate as the new president, and the board got absolutely none of their precious Powerpoint plan except for a glammy new lobby. It was a rout. The orchestra is now doing better than ever — and the supposed imminent budget implosion that the old board had been raising hell about suddenly vanished along with them.)

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                    • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                      RE: https://discuss.systems/@dev/116807460725864716

                      The whole presentation is worth the click-through:

                      1. Honestly, the metaphorically mangled goose slides in the post make more sense than a lot of the rest of the presentation — which is •really• saying something.

                      2. That deck is a magnificent example of why I don't like sharing slides as a means of sharing the content of a talk.

                      3. If we •do• attempt to infer the content from the presentation's sloptastic slides alone, it’s a remarkable window into the investor thinking that’s driving the AI bubble: “Exponential money is hiding just around the corner! Get in on the ground floor! Buy now! Buy now and rocket to infinity and beyond!!”

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                      #16

                      @inthehands Oh come on. They're describing labor.

                      Like, I know the whole premise is that AI turns capital into more capital without passing go and paying labor. And if that fails, it at least makes all labor rent the ability to do labor from capital. And if THAT fails, it at least shapes and filters all human communication.

                      But still. They're describing labor. The value factory is labor.

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                      • poljack@dice.campP poljack@dice.camp

                        @inthehands Same thing happened with the DNC Autopsy report.

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                        #17

                        @Poljack

                        Not dissimilar! Although in the DNC case I suspect that was the result of the powers that be •prohibiting• substantive analysis, whereas with the MN Orch it was the result of those powers not even knowing what a proper analysis would look like.

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                        • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io

                          @inthehands Oh come on. They're describing labor.

                          Like, I know the whole premise is that AI turns capital into more capital without passing go and paying labor. And if that fails, it at least makes all labor rent the ability to do labor from capital. And if THAT fails, it at least shapes and filters all human communication.

                          But still. They're describing labor. The value factory is labor.

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                          #18

                          @jenniferplusplus

                          But but Jennifer, see, if you stuff all the labor inside a goose, and then you own the goose, then you can own all the labor, so now you are Gooselord of the Golden Eggs! Why wouldn't you want that?!

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                          • dtauvdiodr@c.imD dtauvdiodr@c.im

                            @inthehands Have you ever read an Edward Tufte takedown of PowerPoint? It's marvelous.

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                            #19

                            @dtauvdiodr @inthehands He didn't even anticipate AI generated PowerPoint like this nonsense. Wow.

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                            • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                              @jenniferplusplus

                              But but Jennifer, see, if you stuff all the labor inside a goose, and then you own the goose, then you can own all the labor, so now you are Gooselord of the Golden Eggs! Why wouldn't you want that?!

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                              #20

                              @inthehands how are we being ruled by these people

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                              • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io

                                @inthehands how are we being ruled by these people

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                                #21

                                @jenniferplusplus it's because the built the brain computer, it's in the slides

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                                • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                  @jenniferplusplus

                                  But but Jennifer, see, if you stuff all the labor inside a goose, and then you own the goose, then you can own all the labor, so now you are Gooselord of the Golden Eggs! Why wouldn't you want that?!

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                                  #22

                                  @inthehands @jenniferplusplus

                                  Pray don't forget that the goose potentially contains infinite quantities of both labour and resources and can therefore scale infinitely over time.

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                                  • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                    @Poljack

                                    Not dissimilar! Although in the DNC case I suspect that was the result of the powers that be •prohibiting• substantive analysis, whereas with the MN Orch it was the result of those powers not even knowing what a proper analysis would look like.

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                                    #23

                                    @inthehands @Poljack With the DNC, I strongly suspect both tbh.

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                                    • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                      @jenniferplusplus it's because the built the brain computer, it's in the slides

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                                      #24

                                      @jenniferplusplus
                                      excuse me, because they brought the brain computer •to life•

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                                      • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                        RE: https://discuss.systems/@dev/116807460725864716

                                        The whole presentation is worth the click-through:

                                        1. Honestly, the metaphorically mangled goose slides in the post make more sense than a lot of the rest of the presentation — which is •really• saying something.

                                        2. That deck is a magnificent example of why I don't like sharing slides as a means of sharing the content of a talk.

                                        3. If we •do• attempt to infer the content from the presentation's sloptastic slides alone, it’s a remarkable window into the investor thinking that’s driving the AI bubble: “Exponential money is hiding just around the corner! Get in on the ground floor! Buy now! Buy now and rocket to infinity and beyond!!”

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                                        #25

                                        @inthehands I can't get over how they're weirdly paraphrasing the labor theory of value, but not only do they avoid talking about actual human labor with the metaphor of the goose, they go on to say that the value is produced by *machinery* inside the goose.

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                                        • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                          Re this post:

                                          Back in 2012, the Minnesota Orchestra musicians went on strike over a semi-secretive plan from the board to remake the orchestra (one of the best in the world) by slashing player salaries, gutting creative direction, and turning them into a sort of pop-lite-classical easy listening machine of some kind — details very fuzzy, rationale even fuzzier.

                                          During the dispute, a slide deck of their shadowy plan leaked. It was somewhat garbled and confusing, and missing all the key details and analysis that everyone was dying for. “What are you hiding??” the public cried, “Show us the full plan!!” “What are you talking about? We did!” “No, not just the presentation! The actual plan!”

                                          A confused period followed during which it became clear that the slide deck •was• the full plan.

                                          This little gaggle of the Brightest Minds of Business moonlighting on a nonprofit board thought that gutting a local institution required so little thought that when people saw the full analysis, they assumed the board must be hiding something.

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                                          #26

                                          @inthehands

                                          It's like Apocalypse Now:

                                          "Do you find my methods unsound?"

                                          "I don't see any method at all, sir..."

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