I am quite keen on the idea of an electric car.
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I am quite keen on the idea of an electric car.
I am less keen on the idea of a car which spies on me.
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I am quite keen on the idea of an electric car.
I am less keen on the idea of a car which spies on me.
@neil I just want a simple analogue electric car… with knobs not screens. If I had the money I’d look at getting a classic car converted but it’s far from affordable
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I am quite keen on the idea of an electric car.
I am less keen on the idea of a car which spies on me.
Tesla love to spy on anyone. BYD. ? Don't know. Their latest does 600 miles on one charge. 250 miles on a 5 minute recharge.
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I am quite keen on the idea of an electric car.
I am less keen on the idea of a car which spies on me.
@neil There's the rub...
I've been a "car phreak" since I was old enough to walk. I own like a dozen cars... half of them are even on the road and drivable.
I used to like all cars. Nowadays, I have zero interest in pretty much anything post ~2010 due to the complexity of trying to maintain it and more and more due to the invasive software and policies in cars newer than around that age.
Some makes and models are better than others. Would I buy a new BMW? LOL, are you serious? Would I buy a new MX-5... Maybe.
On the electric car front it seems like Hyundai/Kia have the best "normal" electric options in my market (Canada). Would I buy one... maybe... if I had to... I'm more inclined to find a good value used car regardless of propulsion I think.
I'd really like something electric as a new (to me) car when the time comes. Not sure I can do it given the software.
If I lived in the UK I'd probably be all over the Renault 5 / Alpine A290 twins as a daily struggle car. In my market we are stuck with the punitive auto industry BS from the south. It may change but ... we'll see. I have no idea what those cars are like from software or policy though. Maybe I'd walk out of the showroom.
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I am quite keen on the idea of an electric car.
I am less keen on the idea of a car which spies on me.
I have an electric bicycle, which I love, and use as often as I can. But I am looking here for a car.
I kind of like the old Nissan Leaf, and it might *just* fit the bill, range wise. But I've also read various concerns. So I umm and aaah about them.
Newer electric cars leave me with a sense of "nice car you got there. Shame if we changed something about it or spied on you".
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@sborrill Thanks. I would need to find out which features require an Internet connection!
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I am quite keen on the idea of an electric car.
I am less keen on the idea of a car which spies on me.
@neil Btw, if you are really thinking about getting an electric car, check out Jonny Smith's channel on Youtube (The Late Brake Show). He has done a lot of sensible reviews of electric cars over the years and is UK based.
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I have an electric bicycle, which I love, and use as often as I can. But I am looking here for a car.
I kind of like the old Nissan Leaf, and it might *just* fit the bill, range wise. But I've also read various concerns. So I umm and aaah about them.
Newer electric cars leave me with a sense of "nice car you got there. Shame if we changed something about it or spied on you".
I am not a car person.
I drive, but I don't enjoy driving particularly. It is a means to an end for me.
I much prefer to take a train but, sometimes, is either not possible, or else does not make sense (generally, time or money-wise).
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I am quite keen on the idea of an electric car.
I am less keen on the idea of a car which spies on me.
@neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk Then I can recommend Stellantis. Seems safe to assume that their spyware will be poorly-designed, buggy and unreliable.
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@neil I just want a simple analogue electric car… with knobs not screens. If I had the money I’d look at getting a classic car converted but it’s far from affordable
@not_a_label @neil just curious what you consider affordable? I've looked into converting my 1988 Suzuki Samurai to electric, looks like it'll be about $12,000. The car cost me $5000 six years ago, so $17,000 for an electric car seems like a good price.
For comparison to something similar here, the BYD S1 Pro starts at $30,000.
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@neil Btw, if you are really thinking about getting an electric car, check out Jonny Smith's channel on Youtube (The Late Brake Show). He has done a lot of sensible reviews of electric cars over the years and is UK based.
@RootMoose I am, but I much prefer reading to watching!
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I have an electric bicycle, which I love, and use as often as I can. But I am looking here for a car.
I kind of like the old Nissan Leaf, and it might *just* fit the bill, range wise. But I've also read various concerns. So I umm and aaah about them.
Newer electric cars leave me with a sense of "nice car you got there. Shame if we changed something about it or spied on you".
There's apparently a bunch of companies that do EV conversions of older cars in Britain.
https://insideevs.com/features/735220/uk-ev-conversion-industry/
I've seen videos of EV conversions where the car instrumentation is all analog.
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@sborrill Thanks. I would need to find out which features require an Internet connection!
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There's apparently a bunch of companies that do EV conversions of older cars in Britain.
https://insideevs.com/features/735220/uk-ev-conversion-industry/
I've seen videos of EV conversions where the car instrumentation is all analog.
@alienghic I doubt that my budget stretches to that!
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@artfulrobot @sborrill Mostly eSIMs these days, I think.
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@sborrill Thanks. I would need to find out which features require an Internet connection!
@neil To get the best from Octopus Intelligent Go, you need to grant access to Octopus to query the car's battery level. I send sat nav destinations to it. It's handy to send pre-heating schedules to it. But you can work around all these from the car itself or doing percentage calculations yourself
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@artfulrobot @sborrill Mostly eSIMs these days, I think.
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I am quite keen on the idea of an electric car.
I am less keen on the idea of a car which spies on me.
@neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk I'm very happy with my MG4, we also have a 2016 Renault Zoe which can do around 90 miles and has no connectivity
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@neil To get the best from Octopus Intelligent Go, you need to grant access to Octopus to query the car's battery level. I send sat nav destinations to it. It's handy to send pre-heating schedules to it. But you can work around all these from the car itself or doing percentage calculations yourself
@sborrill Thanks! I was wondering about daft things like the windows not opening!
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I am quite keen on the idea of an electric car.
I am less keen on the idea of a car which spies on me.
@neil
I think beyond a certain date they all spy on you. 2012? Don't know. But that would mean any modern all electric vehicle is another computer on wheels sending telemetry back to its producer and associated advertisers. You'll probably need to ID Verify, sorry 'age verify' to use it at some point.
Some people try to disable stuff but then cars either won't start or it invalidates insurance.
I miss driving and I'd hate to run an old gas gusler, but I'd also hate to have to buy a modern car.
