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  3. It's so weird how the whole "this tech is the inevitable future that we've all been building towards and any resistance to it is backwards, if not malignant" is being put out for AI but not solar tech, huh?

It's so weird how the whole "this tech is the inevitable future that we've all been building towards and any resistance to it is backwards, if not malignant" is being put out for AI but not solar tech, huh?

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  • foundseed@spore.socialF foundseed@spore.social

    It's so weird how the whole "this tech is the inevitable future that we've all been building towards and any resistance to it is backwards, if not malignant" is being put out for AI but not solar tech, huh?

    mzedp@plasmatrap.comM This user is from outside of this forum
    mzedp@plasmatrap.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #7

    @foundseed@spore.social tbf I am putting it out, but dont got a billion dollar bullhorn.

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    • foundseed@spore.socialF foundseed@spore.social

      It's so weird how the whole "this tech is the inevitable future that we've all been building towards and any resistance to it is backwards, if not malignant" is being put out for AI but not solar tech, huh?

      felix@mastodon.nzF This user is from outside of this forum
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      #8

      @foundseed in the USA this holds, but i believe in China a substantial proportion of GDP is now in renewable energy, and a almost non existent proportion is in AI.

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      • eviloatmeal@ak.angelstrapped.comE This user is from outside of this forum
        eviloatmeal@ak.angelstrapped.comE This user is from outside of this forum
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        #9
        @FediThing @foundseed

        "Yes, Google+ currently feels like a nerd sanctuary, and yes, the company screwed up previous social efforts such as Wave and Buzz, but Google is deadly serious about this one."

        It's been well over a decade since I stopped being able to keep up with this technology that erases the distinction between the genuine and satire.
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        • agitatra@berlin.socialA agitatra@berlin.social

          @foundseed Maybe, because solar tech just works fine and is cheap?

          ehproque@neopaquita.esE This user is from outside of this forum
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          #10

          @agitatra @foundseed because no one company or small groups of companies can establish an oligopoly, so they can't raise enough money to bribe everyone/overwhelm with propaganda

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          • delawen@floss.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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            #11

            @glent @foundseed As someone living in the South of Europe... well, yes but actually no.

            Above a certain temperature, solar panels start to decrease efficiency.

            It is still an easy deal to sell, but... yep.

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              #12

              @FediThing @foundseed @cwebber

              What ever happened to that semi recent “Go At” of 3DTV?

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              • delawen@floss.socialD delawen@floss.social

                @glent @foundseed As someone living in the South of Europe... well, yes but actually no.

                Above a certain temperature, solar panels start to decrease efficiency.

                It is still an easy deal to sell, but... yep.

                foundseed@spore.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                #13

                @delawen @glent it's true, in higher latitudes like where you and I are, solar is only seasonally effective, that's why wind and hydro power are also the future!

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                • eviloatmeal@ak.angelstrapped.comE eviloatmeal@ak.angelstrapped.com
                  @FediThing @foundseed

                  "Yes, Google+ currently feels like a nerd sanctuary, and yes, the company screwed up previous social efforts such as Wave and Buzz, but Google is deadly serious about this one."

                  It's been well over a decade since I stopped being able to keep up with this technology that erases the distinction between the genuine and satire.
                  foundseed@spore.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #14

                  @eviloatmeal @FediThing poor one out for Google Reader, RIP

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                  • icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #15

                    @FediThing @foundseed I wouldn't have minded if 3DTV had actually stayed, honestly. It should be more of a thing.

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                    • foundseed@spore.socialF foundseed@spore.social

                      It's so weird how the whole "this tech is the inevitable future that we've all been building towards and any resistance to it is backwards, if not malignant" is being put out for AI but not solar tech, huh?

                      thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #16

                      @foundseed yeah strange how this works

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                      • foundseed@spore.socialF foundseed@spore.social

                        It's so weird how the whole "this tech is the inevitable future that we've all been building towards and any resistance to it is backwards, if not malignant" is being put out for AI but not solar tech, huh?

                        alcinnz@floss.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #17

                        @foundseed As I continually learn more about technology... It really appears like the broader tech-space, including the computing industry, has horse blinders on!

                        They focus on more or less one technology at a time, ignorant of all the other exciting opportunities out there!

                        Whilst discounting the marvels which brought us to today!

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                        • delawen@floss.socialD delawen@floss.social

                          @glent @foundseed As someone living in the South of Europe... well, yes but actually no.

                          Above a certain temperature, solar panels start to decrease efficiency.

                          It is still an easy deal to sell, but... yep.

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                          #18

                          @delawen @glent @foundseed It gets even hotter in Australia and they cope perfectly well. In January, which had some heatwaves with temperatures in the high 40s, renewables generated justly under 50% of all electricity in the country. A new record. Solar might not be as efficient at higher temperatures, but it doesn’t drop to zero.

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                          • foundseed@spore.socialF foundseed@spore.social

                            It's so weird how the whole "this tech is the inevitable future that we've all been building towards and any resistance to it is backwards, if not malignant" is being put out for AI but not solar tech, huh?

                            0x0@hachyderm.io0 This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #19

                            @foundseed
                            Ikr? [This](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KtQ9nt2ZeGM&pp=0gcJCZEKAYcqIYzv) @TechConnectify video on solar and nuclear was a breath of fresh air.

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                            • foundseed@spore.socialF foundseed@spore.social

                              It's so weird how the whole "this tech is the inevitable future that we've all been building towards and any resistance to it is backwards, if not malignant" is being put out for AI but not solar tech, huh?

                              pst@tldr.nettime.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #20

                              @foundseed
                              Similarly how non-violent protests for climate change or Gaza are repressed by all layers of government in UK and EU, while violent manifestations of right wing groups/farmers are totally acceptable and downplayed.
                              The Epstein files might give a clue as to why...

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                              • foundseed@spore.socialF foundseed@spore.social

                                It's so weird how the whole "this tech is the inevitable future that we've all been building towards and any resistance to it is backwards, if not malignant" is being put out for AI but not solar tech, huh?

                                unusnemo@friendica.rogueproject.orgU This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #21

                                @foundseed

                                Not weird at all. Solar power does not help the large corporations, they cannot efficiently monetize your use of it. Even with their forcing you to stay on the grid and sell them your excess power, to be sure you will in turn need theirs when you do not have enough to keep your batteries full.

                                First, I am not at all against AI it is a great resource. I just use local AI as I am against giving my money to a large corporation for something I can easily provide for myself. Not to mention my LLM and SD checkpoints get far better training than theirs do. So are far more reliable.

                                Who would have thought that if you just arbitrarily scrape all the information you can find, train an LLM with it that its education would suck and it would be very unreliable? Even training LLM on Open Source Code does not mean you gave it good code to learn on. The issue is that corporation do not care about you the way you care about you. Human intelligence is far from infallible. So why would anyone believe AI (artificial intelligence) would be? Teach a human garbage, get garbage out. Teach an LLM garbage, get garbage out. It is almost like a pattern here ...

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                                • foundseed@spore.socialF foundseed@spore.social

                                  It's so weird how the whole "this tech is the inevitable future that we've all been building towards and any resistance to it is backwards, if not malignant" is being put out for AI but not solar tech, huh?

                                  danwwilson@rstats.meD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #22

                                  @foundseed @mhoye Probably because people don’t need to be sold on the benefits. As someone else said, in Australia free cooling in summer is an amazing draw card.

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                                  • ehproque@neopaquita.esE ehproque@neopaquita.es

                                    @agitatra @foundseed because no one company or small groups of companies can establish an oligopoly, so they can't raise enough money to bribe everyone/overwhelm with propaganda

                                    tartley@fosstodon.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #23

                                    @ehproque @agitatra @foundseed yes. Not so much what it does, nor even how effectively it does it, but who it does it for (me and you!) and who it does it to (the Epstein class).

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                                    • medeavanamonde@beige.partyM medeavanamonde@beige.party

                                      @FediThing @foundseed @cwebber

                                      What ever happened to that semi recent “Go At” of 3DTV?

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                                      #24

                                      @FediThing @foundseed @cwebber @MedeaVanamonde it kinda fizzled out because the tech wasn't quite ready. VR goggles seem like a more promising approach to the same idea. The thing that's holding back VR is cost. I'd get a headset if I could afford one

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                                        #25

                                        @glent @foundseed I recently got a quote on rooftop solar+battery for our house in Denmark:- 12 year payback period.
                                        Danish grid power is already 85%+ renewables and government just cancelled most transmission fees, so it’s hard to compete with atm. Also, installation costs are way higher than the panels.

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