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  • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
    thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Meanwhile, 55 years ago

    maciejsypien@mastodon.socialM tymwol@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT spzb@infosec.exchangeS flipper@mastodonapp.ukF 12 Replies Last reply
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    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

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      maciejsypien@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      maciejsypien@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @thomasfuchs brilliant found!

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      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

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        tymwol@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @thomasfuchs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GibiNy4d4gc

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        • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

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          thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
          thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
          thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io
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          #4

          I highly recommend reading this book, it’s extremely relevant today—notably it doesn’t matter what your stance is on “AI”.

          Programming is an inherently human and social activity; it doesn’t matter if you’re a solo programmer, working with a team or using chatbots, or a combination of all of this.

          gizmo@butts.teamG kirch@tilde.zoneK billysmith@social.coopB jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ angiebaby@mas.toA 5 Replies Last reply
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          • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

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            spzb@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @thomasfuchs as an industry we really excel at reinventing the wheel

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            • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

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              flipper@mastodonapp.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
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              @thomasfuchs they're not going to fall for that again

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              • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                I highly recommend reading this book, it’s extremely relevant today—notably it doesn’t matter what your stance is on “AI”.

                Programming is an inherently human and social activity; it doesn’t matter if you’re a solo programmer, working with a team or using chatbots, or a combination of all of this.

                gizmo@butts.teamG This user is from outside of this forum
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                @thomasfuchs indeed; @grimalkina has a book coming out soon about psychology of programming teams that has some recent research as well

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                • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

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                  thief_of_fire@infosec.exchangeT This user is from outside of this forum
                  thief_of_fire@infosec.exchangeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @thomasfuchs and executives don't read anything😂

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                  • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

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                    terryhancock@realsocial.lifeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @thomasfuchs

                    AI prompts are the latest generation in "do what I mean" programming languages.

                    Usually such languages sacrifice precision of expression for "common sense" understanding, and then expect the compiler (chatbot) to inject the common sense.

                    Sadly, I have learned there is no such thing as "common sense". The common sense of the lawyer is quite different from that of the machinist. There is only "domain knowledge". Which requires that the programmer shares this at least somewhat with the client -- or in a pinch, willing to learn it.

                    History has not been kind to the ambition of automating this part.

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                    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                      I highly recommend reading this book, it’s extremely relevant today—notably it doesn’t matter what your stance is on “AI”.

                      Programming is an inherently human and social activity; it doesn’t matter if you’re a solo programmer, working with a team or using chatbots, or a combination of all of this.

                      kirch@tilde.zoneK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @thomasfuchs if only more organizations made Programming a Social Activity instead of an Antisocial one. 😭

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                      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

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                        ppxl@social.tchncs.deP This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @thomasfuchs and here we are, again. With the help of our friend, AI

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                        • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                          I highly recommend reading this book, it’s extremely relevant today—notably it doesn’t matter what your stance is on “AI”.

                          Programming is an inherently human and social activity; it doesn’t matter if you’re a solo programmer, working with a team or using chatbots, or a combination of all of this.

                          billysmith@social.coopB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @thomasfuchs

                          TY for the recc. 😄

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                          • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

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                            @thomasfuchs

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                            • gizmo@butts.teamG gizmo@butts.team

                              @thomasfuchs indeed; @grimalkina has a book coming out soon about psychology of programming teams that has some recent research as well

                              grimalkina@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @Gizmo @thomasfuchs I read Weinberg as part of my pre-book research. Some nice team stuff, a great counter to the pretty individualistic models of other books of the era. Pretty outdated psych theories though! As evidenced by the somewhat shocking mention of "latent homosexuality" that I can't believe they didn't edit out in later editions. Anyway, I hope mine is a good update. A big reference list to browse comes with it!

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                              • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

                                @Gizmo @thomasfuchs I read Weinberg as part of my pre-book research. Some nice team stuff, a great counter to the pretty individualistic models of other books of the era. Pretty outdated psych theories though! As evidenced by the somewhat shocking mention of "latent homosexuality" that I can't believe they didn't edit out in later editions. Anyway, I hope mine is a good update. A big reference list to browse comes with it!

                                thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @grimalkina @Gizmo obviously has to be seen as an artifact of its time! looking forward to your book

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                                • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

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                                  missconstrue@mefi.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @thomasfuchs @blogdiva

                                  The fact that I can read and decipher cobol, plus the fact that menopause has provided neck hair, ie proto neckbeard, y’all…I may have become a Tech Final Boss. 🤣🥳😂🤷🏻‍♀️💃🏻

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                                  • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

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                                    @thomasfuchs One of the advantages I have in not falling for the current "AI" scam is that I have *twice* been employed by companies that promised people they could write programs without programmers.
                                    Mostly I was employed to clean up the ensuing mess, but it remains an attractive idea to people who don't know the history of it.

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                                    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                      I highly recommend reading this book, it’s extremely relevant today—notably it doesn’t matter what your stance is on “AI”.

                                      Programming is an inherently human and social activity; it doesn’t matter if you’re a solo programmer, working with a team or using chatbots, or a combination of all of this.

                                      jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @thomasfuchs

                                      It's on archive.org

                                      https://archive.org/details/psychologyofcomp0000wein

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                                      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                        I highly recommend reading this book, it’s extremely relevant today—notably it doesn’t matter what your stance is on “AI”.

                                        Programming is an inherently human and social activity; it doesn’t matter if you’re a solo programmer, working with a team or using chatbots, or a combination of all of this.

                                        angiebaby@mas.toA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @thomasfuchs

                                        (Direct link to a PDF download.)

                                        https://z-library.sk/dl/zwXmdmV2Z1

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                                        • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

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                                          @thomasfuchs

                                          hell, most executives don't even read reports or emails, much less lots of code.

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