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  • xjasminelu@hci.socialX xjasminelu@hci.social

    hi! recently deleting instagram has super charged my desire to invest in alternative online social spaces!

    I’m an incoming assistant professor in computer science at Loyola University Chicago. I study electronic waste and how to build computing tools to improve processes of reducing reusing and recycling computing material 🌱💻

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    #60

    @xjasminelu Welcome! Welcome!

    Electronic waste. Wow. Lots of big problems. Thank you for your service!

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    • xjasminelu@hci.socialX xjasminelu@hci.social

      @pelle thinking about that these days too 🤔 looking at codeberg but any alternatives you’d recommend?

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      #61

      @xjasminelu @pelle

      I can really recommend @radicle
      it differentiates itself by being p2p and thus has a low barrier to entry

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      • roy_calum@universeodon.comR roy_calum@universeodon.com

        @xjasminelu @pelle

        I can really recommend @radicle
        it differentiates itself by being p2p and thus has a low barrier to entry

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        #62

        @xjasminelu

        and welcome to fedi 🙂

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        • xjasminelu@hci.socialX xjasminelu@hci.social

          @pelle thinking about that these days too 🤔 looking at codeberg but any alternatives you’d recommend?

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          #63

          @xjasminelu
          yes, that, or another forgejo server, or sourcehut.

          i'd just held on to my github account for reporting issues, but now i use email for that.

          or mastodon, because some apps hosted on github have a mastodon account. (delta chat, organic maps, ...)

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          • roy_calum@universeodon.comR roy_calum@universeodon.com

            @xjasminelu @pelle

            I can really recommend @radicle
            it differentiates itself by being p2p and thus has a low barrier to entry

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            #64

            @roy_calum @xjasminelu @radicle
            📂 ./CLAUDE.md 😞

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            • xjasminelu@hci.socialX xjasminelu@hci.social

              @gemlog @wim_v12e I appreciate this thank you!!!

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              #65

              @xjasminelu Welcome to fedi, I hope you'll like it here! I'm looking more at how to use devices for longer, before they become waste. But some of my colleagues are working on similar topics as you:
              https://www.react.ac.uk/people

              On this account I don't post about work though. My posts on sustainability of computing are on https://scholar.social/@wim_v12e

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              • xjasminelu@hci.socialX xjasminelu@hci.social

                @nina_kali_nina I’m on a permacomputing list serv but not on here! Would love to hear any recs 🙂

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                #66

                @xjasminelu of course @neauoire 🙂

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                • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                  @roy_calum @xjasminelu @radicle
                  📂 ./CLAUDE.md 😞

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                  #67

                  @pelle

                  I'm sorry I can't quite follow what you wanted to express.
                  I did indeed encounter LLM use on the radicle network.
                  But at a quick glance the main protocol doesn't contain a CLAUDE.md file.

                  To check for yourself:

                  https://radicle.network/nodes/seed.radicle.dev/rad:z3gqcJUoA1n9HaHKufZs5FCSGazv5

                  Neither do the other repos by radicle.
                  Apart from the radicle-explorer web browser interface.

                  https://radicle.network/nodes/seed.radicle.dev/rad:z4V1sjrXqjvFdnCUbxPFqd5p4DtH5/tree/CLAUDE.md

                  The relevant thread on the forum:

                  https://radicle.zulipchat.com/#narrow/channel/369278-Explorer/topic/.E2.9C.94.2072cfac7.3A.20Add.20CLAUDE.2Emd/with/580304656

                  Personally because I abhor the incompetence surrounding decisions in computing at the moment, I'm very critical of the use of LLMs.
                  That is why I'm working to decentralize and thus future-proof my projects.

                  I have seen no alternative code forge other than radicle serving this kind of truly distributed and asynchronous collaboration.
                  I see it as revolutionary and should it become necessary the tech will be forked.

                  So far I'm happy to say that the team and community convinced me of their competency.

                  Did I understand your critique correctly?

                  @xjasminelu @radicle

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                  • roy_calum@universeodon.comR roy_calum@universeodon.com

                    @pelle

                    I'm sorry I can't quite follow what you wanted to express.
                    I did indeed encounter LLM use on the radicle network.
                    But at a quick glance the main protocol doesn't contain a CLAUDE.md file.

                    To check for yourself:

                    https://radicle.network/nodes/seed.radicle.dev/rad:z3gqcJUoA1n9HaHKufZs5FCSGazv5

                    Neither do the other repos by radicle.
                    Apart from the radicle-explorer web browser interface.

                    https://radicle.network/nodes/seed.radicle.dev/rad:z4V1sjrXqjvFdnCUbxPFqd5p4DtH5/tree/CLAUDE.md

                    The relevant thread on the forum:

                    https://radicle.zulipchat.com/#narrow/channel/369278-Explorer/topic/.E2.9C.94.2072cfac7.3A.20Add.20CLAUDE.2Emd/with/580304656

                    Personally because I abhor the incompetence surrounding decisions in computing at the moment, I'm very critical of the use of LLMs.
                    That is why I'm working to decentralize and thus future-proof my projects.

                    I have seen no alternative code forge other than radicle serving this kind of truly distributed and asynchronous collaboration.
                    I see it as revolutionary and should it become necessary the tech will be forked.

                    So far I'm happy to say that the team and community convinced me of their competency.

                    Did I understand your critique correctly?

                    @xjasminelu @radicle

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                    #68

                    @pelle @xjasminelu @radicle

                    side note:
                    I work under the assumption that technology cannot be taken back easily
                    once the cat's out of the bag, that's it

                    imo llms fundamentally suck by being spammy
                    framing them tight can alleviate some issues and rigorous benchmarks can be used to objectively measure results

                    this is what's happening at community-computer:

                    https://radicle.network/nodes/iris.radicle.xyz/rad%3Az4Wk8hdpwG4HtoCxr1uuoQDpnfr25

                    even if all the datacenters experienced rapid unschduled disassembly this would be a method that generated traceable computing experiments

                    and even failed experiments - if recorded methodically - always render valuable data

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                    • cazabon@mindly.socialC cazabon@mindly.social

                      @xjasminelu

                      Happy to boost - it's definitely an area worth studying.

                      Have you published anything (formal or not) about "Repair Cafes" and other popular movements to reduce e-waste / re-use "obsolete" electronics?

                      #RepairCafe #reuse #EWaste

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                      #69

                      @cazabon yes! This article is more general than repair cafes but I interviewed Matthew Lubari who runs an ongoing repair cafe in rhino refugee camp. brilliant guy with brilliant insights!!! https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3674505

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                      • roy_calum@universeodon.comR roy_calum@universeodon.com

                        @pelle @xjasminelu @radicle

                        side note:
                        I work under the assumption that technology cannot be taken back easily
                        once the cat's out of the bag, that's it

                        imo llms fundamentally suck by being spammy
                        framing them tight can alleviate some issues and rigorous benchmarks can be used to objectively measure results

                        this is what's happening at community-computer:

                        https://radicle.network/nodes/iris.radicle.xyz/rad%3Az4Wk8hdpwG4HtoCxr1uuoQDpnfr25

                        even if all the datacenters experienced rapid unschduled disassembly this would be a method that generated traceable computing experiments

                        and even failed experiments - if recorded methodically - always render valuable data

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                        #70

                        @roy_calum @pelle @radicle thank you for the detailed write up! I’m a huge Luddite when it comes to AI (I can be /many folks unfortunately gotta spend the tokens to pay the bills) so am especially interested in all the alternative “experiments” in this new world we’re in w AI

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                        • wim_v12e@tilde.zoneW wim_v12e@tilde.zone

                          @xjasminelu Welcome to fedi, I hope you'll like it here! I'm looking more at how to use devices for longer, before they become waste. But some of my colleagues are working on similar topics as you:
                          https://www.react.ac.uk/people

                          On this account I don't post about work though. My posts on sustainability of computing are on https://scholar.social/@wim_v12e

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                          #71

                          @wim_v12e Thank you!!! I’m familiar with your work on frugal computing and the react center! Lancaster has some great folks who have been a big influences on my PhD (Not there anymore but Christian Remy and other human computer interaction folks)

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                          • xjasminelu@hci.socialX xjasminelu@hci.social

                            @roy_calum @pelle @radicle thank you for the detailed write up! I’m a huge Luddite when it comes to AI (I can be /many folks unfortunately gotta spend the tokens to pay the bills) so am especially interested in all the alternative “experiments” in this new world we’re in w AI

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                            #72

                            @xjasminelu @roy_calum
                            #sourcehut is strongly anti-AI. 😍

                            owner maintains a fork of #vim without the #AIslop:
                            https://drewdevault.com/blog/Forking-vim/

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