Happy Stanislav Petrov day!
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Some days I wish myself back in the Cold War. Because it was COLD and no one held a match to the gas can.
2022-2026 answers Sting's song:
no
the Russians do not, in fact, love their children too
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Happy Stanislav Petrov day!
Today marks 43 years since Petrov decided to wait for confirmation before escalating a missile alert up the chain of command in the Soviet Air Defense, preventing nuclear war.
A hero for not trusting automated systems fully.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident?wprov=sfti1
nuclear war was also averted in a different instance:
Vasily Arkhipov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Arkhipov#Role_in_the_Cuban_Missile_Crisis
during the cuban missile crisis an american ship dropped what is called a signaling depth charge to tell a soviet sub to surface (it's designed to make a noise, but doesn't do damage)
but the submarine officers thought this was an attack
they thought war had started
2 of 3 commanding officers required to agree before launch, agreed to launch a nuclear torpedo
Vasily said no
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2022-2026 answers Sting's song:
no
the Russians do not, in fact, love their children too
@benroyce @_RyekDarkener_ @kralcttam
Counterpoint; #BrimstoneAndTreacle
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Happy Stanislav Petrov day!
Today marks 43 years since Petrov decided to wait for confirmation before escalating a missile alert up the chain of command in the Soviet Air Defense, preventing nuclear war.
A hero for not trusting automated systems fully.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident?wprov=sfti1
#SomethingAwful sent him cash several times back in the early 2000's as a thank you for not destroying the world!
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Happy Stanislav Petrov day!
Today marks 43 years since Petrov decided to wait for confirmation before escalating a missile alert up the chain of command in the Soviet Air Defense, preventing nuclear war.
A hero for not trusting automated systems fully.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident?wprov=sfti1
#AI will definitely fix that! Next time, KABOOOOM!
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Happy Stanislav Petrov day!
Today marks 43 years since Petrov decided to wait for confirmation before escalating a missile alert up the chain of command in the Soviet Air Defense, preventing nuclear war.
A hero for not trusting automated systems fully.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident?wprov=sfti1
@kralcttam It almost happened in 1979 too. I remember reading it in the paper when I was on my break at work.
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Happy Stanislav Petrov day!
Today marks 43 years since Petrov decided to wait for confirmation before escalating a missile alert up the chain of command in the Soviet Air Defense, preventing nuclear war.
A hero for not trusting automated systems fully.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident?wprov=sfti1
@kralcttam On the other hand: we could have saved sooo much time! Mankind is not worth to survive
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2022-2026 answers Sting's song:
no
the Russians do not, in fact, love their children too
Maybe. But in the 1980ies they did.
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Happy Stanislav Petrov day!
Today marks 43 years since Petrov decided to wait for confirmation before escalating a missile alert up the chain of command in the Soviet Air Defense, preventing nuclear war.
A hero for not trusting automated systems fully.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident?wprov=sfti1
@kralcttam Those real stories influenced films like 'Wargames' (year 1983) during the 80s. Common people were concerned with those questions. Today everyone is just following orders, because "computers never make mistakes" and AI tycoons "are the most smart and hard working people in the planet".
https://youtu.be/s6aCpS0-yls?
si=TMdgFjdVrCTkMzNc&t=134(start 2:40 m)
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nuclear war was also averted in a different instance:
Vasily Arkhipov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Arkhipov#Role_in_the_Cuban_Missile_Crisis
during the cuban missile crisis an american ship dropped what is called a signaling depth charge to tell a soviet sub to surface (it's designed to make a noise, but doesn't do damage)
but the submarine officers thought this was an attack
they thought war had started
2 of 3 commanding officers required to agree before launch, agreed to launch a nuclear torpedo
Vasily said no
@benroyce @kralcttam Basically "Crimson Tide" in real life.
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@benroyce @kralcttam Basically "Crimson Tide" in real life.
not by accident
denzel washington's character in crimson tide is a homage to arkhipov in the B59 incident
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Tide_(film)#Historical_parallels
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Maybe. But in the 1980ies they did.
@_RyekDarkener_ @benroyce @kralcttam
They still do love their children. That's why they send them to boarding schools in Western Europe, and let poor minorities die in the war instead -
Happy Stanislav Petrov day!
Today marks 43 years since Petrov decided to wait for confirmation before escalating a missile alert up the chain of command in the Soviet Air Defense, preventing nuclear war.
A hero for not trusting automated systems fully.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident?wprov=sfti1
@kralcttam Oh is that his name? Thank you Stanislav Petrov!
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not by accident
denzel washington's character in crimson tide is a homage to arkhipov in the B59 incident
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Tide_(film)#Historical_parallels
@benroyce @kralcttam I didn't know that
BTW I actually kind-of hate the way the movie ends on a "You were both right" note, because Captain Ramsay was not only clearly in the wrong, but also extremely eager to break with protocol in favor of his own position, even as he demands Hunter obey those same rules. The navy choosing to cover for Ramsay's blatant criminal actions towards a POC subordinate is a little too on the nose for an ostensible "happy" ending...
