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Want to move from US-based apps and services to Europe-based ones?

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  • undead@masto.hackers.townU undead@masto.hackers.town

    @metin
    Maybe add Cryptpad.fr, that way a list can be shared without google docs?

    metin@graphics.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
    metin@graphics.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
    metin@graphics.social
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    #8

    @undead https://graphics.social/@metin/115894861375325940 🙂

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    • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

      Want to move from US-based apps and services to Europe-based ones?

      Some useful links to get you going…

      https://european-alternatives.eu

      https://euroalternative.co

      https://www.switch-to.eu/en

      https://www.goeuropean.org

      https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/%F0%9F%87%AA%F0%9F%87%BA-european-alternatives-to-american-apps.46070

      https://www.privacytools.io

      https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools

      https://eurotechguide.com

      https://switching.software

      https://codeberg.org/ADHDefy/delightful-creative-tools

      Big open source list (Google Docs 😅😞
      https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yNXpuy5tVP0q-El0DqoY-AwmPHT6K09NEZG-Pf0KJ7E/edit

      #EU #europe #USA #apps #software #tech #tips #FreeSoftware #free #FOSS #OpenSource

      justbeep@social.tchncs.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      justbeep@social.tchncs.de
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #9

      @metin
      https://www.goeuropean.org/

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      • justbeep@social.tchncs.deJ justbeep@social.tchncs.de

        @metin
        https://www.goeuropean.org/

        metin@graphics.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        metin@graphics.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #10

        @Justbeep Thanks! Added. 👍

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        • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

          Want to move from US-based apps and services to Europe-based ones?

          Some useful links to get you going…

          https://european-alternatives.eu

          https://euroalternative.co

          https://www.switch-to.eu/en

          https://www.goeuropean.org

          https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/%F0%9F%87%AA%F0%9F%87%BA-european-alternatives-to-american-apps.46070

          https://www.privacytools.io

          https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools

          https://eurotechguide.com

          https://switching.software

          https://codeberg.org/ADHDefy/delightful-creative-tools

          Big open source list (Google Docs 😅😞
          https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yNXpuy5tVP0q-El0DqoY-AwmPHT6K09NEZG-Pf0KJ7E/edit

          #EU #europe #USA #apps #software #tech #tips #FreeSoftware #free #FOSS #OpenSource

          cyclist@mastodon.scotC This user is from outside of this forum
          cyclist@mastodon.scotC This user is from outside of this forum
          cyclist@mastodon.scot
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #11

          @metin

          Bookmarking this. Thanks for sharing!

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          • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

            Want to move from US-based apps and services to Europe-based ones?

            Some useful links to get you going…

            https://european-alternatives.eu

            https://euroalternative.co

            https://www.switch-to.eu/en

            https://www.goeuropean.org

            https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/%F0%9F%87%AA%F0%9F%87%BA-european-alternatives-to-american-apps.46070

            https://www.privacytools.io

            https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools

            https://eurotechguide.com

            https://switching.software

            https://codeberg.org/ADHDefy/delightful-creative-tools

            Big open source list (Google Docs 😅😞
            https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yNXpuy5tVP0q-El0DqoY-AwmPHT6K09NEZG-Pf0KJ7E/edit

            #EU #europe #USA #apps #software #tech #tips #FreeSoftware #free #FOSS #OpenSource

            jnpn@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
            jnpn@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
            jnpn@mastodon.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #12

            @metin new challenge accepted

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            • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

              Want to move from US-based apps and services to Europe-based ones?

              Some useful links to get you going…

              https://european-alternatives.eu

              https://euroalternative.co

              https://www.switch-to.eu/en

              https://www.goeuropean.org

              https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/%F0%9F%87%AA%F0%9F%87%BA-european-alternatives-to-american-apps.46070

              https://www.privacytools.io

              https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools

              https://eurotechguide.com

              https://switching.software

              https://codeberg.org/ADHDefy/delightful-creative-tools

              Big open source list (Google Docs 😅😞
              https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yNXpuy5tVP0q-El0DqoY-AwmPHT6K09NEZG-Pf0KJ7E/edit

              #EU #europe #USA #apps #software #tech #tips #FreeSoftware #free #FOSS #OpenSource

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              diogop@ieji.de
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #13

              @metin I moved from Github to a self-hosted Gitea instance that I self-host on OVH, a European cloud provider.

              I also moved my .dev top-level domain from Google to EURid's .eu.

              I'm very happy with these changes. I no longer have to put up with AI's obsession every time I did something on GitHub.

              On top of that, I no longer use Cloudflare, and recently had to install Anubis (Web AI Firewall) to stop being attacked by AI Crawlers from openai and other Big Tech companies that were scanning all the commits on my Gitea (public repositories ofc).

              #github #ovhcloud #eu #europe #eurid #gitea #aicrawler #cloudflare #selfhost #opensouce #privacy #firewall

              macbraughton@infosec.exchangeM lexinova@cyberplace.socialL mikerspencer@mastodon.scotM 3 Replies Last reply
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              • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                Want to move from US-based apps and services to Europe-based ones?

                Some useful links to get you going…

                https://european-alternatives.eu

                https://euroalternative.co

                https://www.switch-to.eu/en

                https://www.goeuropean.org

                https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/%F0%9F%87%AA%F0%9F%87%BA-european-alternatives-to-american-apps.46070

                https://www.privacytools.io

                https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools

                https://eurotechguide.com

                https://switching.software

                https://codeberg.org/ADHDefy/delightful-creative-tools

                Big open source list (Google Docs 😅😞
                https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yNXpuy5tVP0q-El0DqoY-AwmPHT6K09NEZG-Pf0KJ7E/edit

                #EU #europe #USA #apps #software #tech #tips #FreeSoftware #free #FOSS #OpenSource

                eq@mas.toE This user is from outside of this forum
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                eq@mas.to
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #14

                @metin How did you know we were just discussing de-americanize the phones? Thanks for the links!

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                • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                  Want to move from US-based apps and services to Europe-based ones?

                  Some useful links to get you going…

                  https://european-alternatives.eu

                  https://euroalternative.co

                  https://www.switch-to.eu/en

                  https://www.goeuropean.org

                  https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/%F0%9F%87%AA%F0%9F%87%BA-european-alternatives-to-american-apps.46070

                  https://www.privacytools.io

                  https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools

                  https://eurotechguide.com

                  https://switching.software

                  https://codeberg.org/ADHDefy/delightful-creative-tools

                  Big open source list (Google Docs 😅😞
                  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yNXpuy5tVP0q-El0DqoY-AwmPHT6K09NEZG-Pf0KJ7E/edit

                  #EU #europe #USA #apps #software #tech #tips #FreeSoftware #free #FOSS #OpenSource

                  adbenitez@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                  adbenitez@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                  adbenitez@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #15

                  @metin for chat app: #DeltaChat https://delta.chat

                  it is an encrypted, private, decentralized, multi-platform #chat app, with good multi-device and multi-profile support

                  with it you don't depend on a single server, all your data, chats and contacts live in your pocket, e2e encrypted, without depending on a particular server, you can easily migrate from server to server without losing any chat or groups!

                  it also has #offlineFirst in-chat mini-games and tools!

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                  • D diogop@ieji.de

                    @metin I moved from Github to a self-hosted Gitea instance that I self-host on OVH, a European cloud provider.

                    I also moved my .dev top-level domain from Google to EURid's .eu.

                    I'm very happy with these changes. I no longer have to put up with AI's obsession every time I did something on GitHub.

                    On top of that, I no longer use Cloudflare, and recently had to install Anubis (Web AI Firewall) to stop being attacked by AI Crawlers from openai and other Big Tech companies that were scanning all the commits on my Gitea (public repositories ofc).

                    #github #ovhcloud #eu #europe #eurid #gitea #aicrawler #cloudflare #selfhost #opensouce #privacy #firewall

                    macbraughton@infosec.exchangeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    macbraughton@infosec.exchange
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #16

                    @diogop @metin this is amazing… you’ve basically done all the things I’ve been plotting… only difference is that I wanted to totally self-host rather than any cloud, and my biggest hesitation was figuring out how to deal with the crawlers. Read about Anubis the other day and thought that would be a start. You give me hope!

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                    • macbraughton@infosec.exchangeM macbraughton@infosec.exchange

                      @diogop @metin this is amazing… you’ve basically done all the things I’ve been plotting… only difference is that I wanted to totally self-host rather than any cloud, and my biggest hesitation was figuring out how to deal with the crawlers. Read about Anubis the other day and thought that would be a start. You give me hope!

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                      diogop@ieji.de
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #17

                      @macbraughton @metin For now, I have my old laptop hosting my Gitea, which is connected to the VPS through a WireGuard VPN tunnel, because I can't expose services over the Internet from home since I'm behind a CG-NAT.

                      I used to use cloudflared, which was a Cloudflare tunnel to expose private resources. The problem is that I find it very invasive to use cloudflared as a reverse proxy and pass everything through the Cloudflare network.

                      You can check the status of my setup here: https://status.diogop.eu/

                      #WireGuard #onpremise #homelab #ovhcloud

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                      • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                        Want to move from US-based apps and services to Europe-based ones?

                        Some useful links to get you going…

                        https://european-alternatives.eu

                        https://euroalternative.co

                        https://www.switch-to.eu/en

                        https://www.goeuropean.org

                        https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/%F0%9F%87%AA%F0%9F%87%BA-european-alternatives-to-american-apps.46070

                        https://www.privacytools.io

                        https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools

                        https://eurotechguide.com

                        https://switching.software

                        https://codeberg.org/ADHDefy/delightful-creative-tools

                        Big open source list (Google Docs 😅😞
                        https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yNXpuy5tVP0q-El0DqoY-AwmPHT6K09NEZG-Pf0KJ7E/edit

                        #EU #europe #USA #apps #software #tech #tips #FreeSoftware #free #FOSS #OpenSource

                        quasit@kolektiva.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        quasit@kolektiva.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #18

                        @metin

                        I'm concerned about European laws on digital ID, age verification, hate speech, and free speech. I wish there was SOMEWHERE that protected all those things but wasn't owned by a billionaire or a fascist corporation!

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                        • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                          @john Thanks for the boost. 👍 Yeah, I knew someone would come up with that. 😉 But as long as you don't enter anything, only read it and click some links, I guess Google won't harm you. 😉 Use a private browser window and/or VPN if you're hardcore. 🙂 But it's quite a comprehensive, useful list, so I'd like to keep it in my post.

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                          lexinova@cyberplace.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #19

                          @metin @john the fact remain, Google don't harm you is not a valid reason when the post talk about going to EU.

                          So this open list i cannot access it because i will not open a google app even in a private browser or vpn.

                          In fact it will not even load as i have blocked all google domain on my network.

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                          • D diogop@ieji.de

                            @metin I moved from Github to a self-hosted Gitea instance that I self-host on OVH, a European cloud provider.

                            I also moved my .dev top-level domain from Google to EURid's .eu.

                            I'm very happy with these changes. I no longer have to put up with AI's obsession every time I did something on GitHub.

                            On top of that, I no longer use Cloudflare, and recently had to install Anubis (Web AI Firewall) to stop being attacked by AI Crawlers from openai and other Big Tech companies that were scanning all the commits on my Gitea (public repositories ofc).

                            #github #ovhcloud #eu #europe #eurid #gitea #aicrawler #cloudflare #selfhost #opensouce #privacy #firewall

                            lexinova@cyberplace.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            lexinova@cyberplace.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #20

                            @diogop @metin if you move gitea to forgejo, you obtain the possibility to update it with codeberg (where they are).

                            So you have a git from germany, their update are hosted on german server (of codeberg).

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                            • D diogop@ieji.de

                              @metin I moved from Github to a self-hosted Gitea instance that I self-host on OVH, a European cloud provider.

                              I also moved my .dev top-level domain from Google to EURid's .eu.

                              I'm very happy with these changes. I no longer have to put up with AI's obsession every time I did something on GitHub.

                              On top of that, I no longer use Cloudflare, and recently had to install Anubis (Web AI Firewall) to stop being attacked by AI Crawlers from openai and other Big Tech companies that were scanning all the commits on my Gitea (public repositories ofc).

                              #github #ovhcloud #eu #europe #eurid #gitea #aicrawler #cloudflare #selfhost #opensouce #privacy #firewall

                              mikerspencer@mastodon.scotM This user is from outside of this forum
                              mikerspencer@mastodon.scotM This user is from outside of this forum
                              mikerspencer@mastodon.scot
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #21

                              @diogop
                              Have you tried this EU DNS?
                              https://www.joindns4.eu/
                              @metin

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                              • adbenitez@mastodon.socialA adbenitez@mastodon.social

                                @metin for chat app: #DeltaChat https://delta.chat

                                it is an encrypted, private, decentralized, multi-platform #chat app, with good multi-device and multi-profile support

                                with it you don't depend on a single server, all your data, chats and contacts live in your pocket, e2e encrypted, without depending on a particular server, you can easily migrate from server to server without losing any chat or groups!

                                it also has #offlineFirst in-chat mini-games and tools!

                                machocam@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                                machocam@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                                machocam@mastodon.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #22

                                @adbenitez @metin you wrote a message about the fact that you use #deltachat for much more than messaging using webxdc mini apps

                                I think more should be written about workflows like that.

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                                • lexinova@cyberplace.socialL lexinova@cyberplace.social

                                  @metin @john the fact remain, Google don't harm you is not a valid reason when the post talk about going to EU.

                                  So this open list i cannot access it because i will not open a google app even in a private browser or vpn.

                                  In fact it will not even load as i have blocked all google domain on my network.

                                  metin@graphics.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  metin@graphics.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #23

                                  @lexinova @john That’s fine, you don’t need to use the Google Docs link in my post. It’s just one of the many links I’ve provided.

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                                  • mikerspencer@mastodon.scotM mikerspencer@mastodon.scot

                                    @diogop
                                    Have you tried this EU DNS?
                                    https://www.joindns4.eu/
                                    @metin

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                                    diogop@ieji.de
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #24

                                    @mikerspencer @metin
                                    I just tested it, and I didn't like the ping compared to quad9.

                                    joindns4.eu = 400 - 700 ms
                                    Quad9.net = 100 - 200 ms

                                    I use Quad9 because it has servers spread across Europe, does not store logs, and is transparent.

                                    Quad9 locations: https://quad9.net/service/locations/

                                    The ping was tested with: https://dnscheck.tools/

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                                    • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                                      @lexinova @john That’s fine, you don’t need to use the Google Docs link in my post. It’s just one of the many links I’ve provided.

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                                      john@vyrse.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #25

                                      @metin @lexinova sorry... you tried to do something nice lol...it's hard balancing activism against practicality...
                                      I'm a google hater too but thanks for trying

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                                      • D diogop@ieji.de

                                        @mikerspencer @metin
                                        I just tested it, and I didn't like the ping compared to quad9.

                                        joindns4.eu = 400 - 700 ms
                                        Quad9.net = 100 - 200 ms

                                        I use Quad9 because it has servers spread across Europe, does not store logs, and is transparent.

                                        Quad9 locations: https://quad9.net/service/locations/

                                        The ping was tested with: https://dnscheck.tools/

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                                        mikerspencer@mastodon.scot
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #26

                                        @diogop
                                        Nice, I'll add this to my list. Thanks!
                                        @metin

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