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  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

    "I have nothing to hide."

    False.

    You have medical history

    You have financial behavior

    You have location patterns

    You have political views

    You have relationship data

    Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

    flashmobofone@mstdn.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #21

    @Tutanota And privacy is a basic right, not a privilege for people with nothing to hide.

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    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

      "I have nothing to hide."

      False.

      You have medical history

      You have financial behavior

      You have location patterns

      You have political views

      You have relationship data

      Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

      crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #22

      @Tutanota Right. If I ain't got nothing to hide I ain't got no life.

      At this point I think it's our psychology we want to hide the most. It's also the toughest now. If we don't, then we're fed exactly what is needed to make us think the way certain people want us to think. So if you want to think for yourself, protect your psychology and don't let people know it too well.

      Don't cast your pearl before swine.

      But again, if you don't care to think for yourself--if you don't like it--then ...

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      • pepintheshort@ieji.deP pepintheshort@ieji.de

        @Tutanota I tried what that guy on YouTube said: when people tell me they have nothing to hide I ask them to share their email password with me. I promise to do no wrong at all, I'd just login occasionally, read some emails and leave. No damage, no writing, no deleting, no traces left. So far they all refused 😐

        crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #23

        @pepintheshort @Tutanota Did you offer them anything?

        Someone did that to me but they offered me a free email account and I said, "Yeah, sure...whatever. Here you go."

        I've heard a coke can go a long way. Give someone a Coke and then ask your ridiculous favor.

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        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

          "I have nothing to hide."

          False.

          You have medical history

          You have financial behavior

          You have location patterns

          You have political views

          You have relationship data

          Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

          bishopjoey@writing.exchangeB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #24

          @Tutanota And louder for the folks in the back: Orwell's 1984 was a *warning* not an *instruction manual*.

          And yet? Here we are.

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          • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

            @Tutanota "I have nothing to hide" ... "How did the scammer got my phone number?"

            "I have nothing to hide" ... "What is all this spam I'm getting?"

            "I have nothing to hide" ... "How did you know I was going to this restaurant?"

            "I have nothing to hide" ... "Why's this advertisement so accurate?"

            "I have nothing to hide" ... "Data breach? What? My medical records are in?!"

            "I have nothing to hide" ... 'Security Message: Someone logged into your account'..."I don't remember logging in today."

            crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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            #25

            @The_Universality @Tutanota "I have nothing to hide." ... "Why am I being arrested for having my Nixon out?"

            the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT 1 Reply Last reply
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            • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

              "I have nothing to hide."

              False.

              You have medical history

              You have financial behavior

              You have location patterns

              You have political views

              You have relationship data

              Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

              farbel@mas.toF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #26

              @Tutanota I personally don't care who knows any of that shit about me, but people who do care should have a choice, and that choice should be opt in, not opt out.

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              • pepintheshort@ieji.deP pepintheshort@ieji.de

                @Tutanota I tried what that guy on YouTube said: when people tell me they have nothing to hide I ask them to share their email password with me. I promise to do no wrong at all, I'd just login occasionally, read some emails and leave. No damage, no writing, no deleting, no traces left. So far they all refused 😐

                falcennial@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                #27

                @pepintheshort @Tutanota but they don't have anything to hide, so I don't understand.

                on what basis did they not give you the password???

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                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                  "I have nothing to hide."

                  False.

                  You have medical history

                  You have financial behavior

                  You have location patterns

                  You have political views

                  You have relationship data

                  Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

                  O This user is from outside of this forum
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                  oshox@mastodon.social
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                  #28

                  @Tutanota Law enforcement's members have political and personal motivations, beyond what the law requires, so everyone has someone to hide.

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                  • crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC crazyeddie@mastodon.social

                    @pepintheshort @Tutanota Did you offer them anything?

                    Someone did that to me but they offered me a free email account and I said, "Yeah, sure...whatever. Here you go."

                    I've heard a coke can go a long way. Give someone a Coke and then ask your ridiculous favor.

                    pepintheshort@ieji.deP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #29

                    @crazyeddie @Tutanota sure I'll send you a voucher for a coke from Amazon if you share your password with me

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                    • falcennial@mastodon.socialF falcennial@mastodon.social

                      @pepintheshort @Tutanota but they don't have anything to hide, so I don't understand.

                      on what basis did they not give you the password???

                      pepintheshort@ieji.deP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #30

                      @falcennial @Tutanota that's a great question! 🙂

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                      • pepintheshort@ieji.deP pepintheshort@ieji.de

                        @crazyeddie @Tutanota sure I'll send you a voucher for a coke from Amazon if you share your password with me

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                        #31

                        @pepintheshort @Tutanota I don't know it 🙂

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                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                          "I have nothing to hide."

                          False.

                          You have medical history

                          You have financial behavior

                          You have location patterns

                          You have political views

                          You have relationship data

                          Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

                          janpaul@troet.cafeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #32

                          @Tutanota
                          That's what I keep telling people. The usual answer is just: "Yeah, but why should anybody be interested in this?"

                          Well, I don't know. But some people are. Isn't this fact enough to be concerned?

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                            #33
                            i like the sequence:
                            i have nothing to hide. but that is also none of your business
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                            • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                              "I have nothing to hide."

                              False.

                              You have medical history

                              You have financial behavior

                              You have location patterns

                              You have political views

                              You have relationship data

                              Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

                              darwinwoodka@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              darwinwoodka@mastodon.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #34

                              @Tutanota

                              That's why we should own our own data and decide who gets to access it

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                              • crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC crazyeddie@mastodon.social

                                @The_Universality @Tutanota "I have nothing to hide." ... "Why am I being arrested for having my Nixon out?"

                                the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #35

                                @crazyeddie @Tutanota What is Nixon? This is the first time I hear about this.

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                                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                  "I have nothing to hide."

                                  False.

                                  You have medical history

                                  You have financial behavior

                                  You have location patterns

                                  You have political views

                                  You have relationship data

                                  Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

                                  d4v@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  d4v@mastodon.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #36

                                  @Tutanota I stopped arguing with people that says that. Because they even doesn't care if their medical history and everything gets leaked.

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                                  • pepintheshort@ieji.deP pepintheshort@ieji.de

                                    @Tutanota I tried what that guy on YouTube said: when people tell me they have nothing to hide I ask them to share their email password with me. I promise to do no wrong at all, I'd just login occasionally, read some emails and leave. No damage, no writing, no deleting, no traces left. So far they all refused 😐

                                    rhoot@mastodon.gamedev.placeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #37

                                    @pepintheshort @Tutanota there was a teacher on fedi some time ago (sorry, don't remember who) that said their students would often say they have nothing to hide. And when they did, they would tell them "okay good, tell the rest of the class about the last time you masturbated", and the entire class immediately got it.

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                                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                      "I have nothing to hide."

                                      False.

                                      You have medical history

                                      You have financial behavior

                                      You have location patterns

                                      You have political views

                                      You have relationship data

                                      Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

                                      T This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      tylilbro@mastodon.social
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                                      #38

                                      @Tutanota isn't "I have nothing to hide" used when someone doesn't have any evidence against them on something.

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                                      • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

                                        @crazyeddie @Tutanota What is Nixon? This is the first time I hear about this.

                                        crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #39

                                        @The_Universality @Tutanota Nixon -> Richard -> Dick

                                        the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT camilo@tuiter.rocksC 2 Replies Last reply
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                                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                          "I have nothing to hide."

                                          False.

                                          You have medical history

                                          You have financial behavior

                                          You have location patterns

                                          You have political views

                                          You have relationship data

                                          Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

                                          dmir@gehirneimer.deD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          dmir@gehirneimer.de
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                                          #40

                                          @Tutanota@mastodon.social I think saying to the people using the argument never realize how much they care about their own privacy. They think that having “nothing to hide” is some sort of a virtue, something to strive for, because that’s what good people have and good people don’t get into trouble - and you just can’t argue with a person’s belief of their own virtuousness if you want to persuade them.

                                          “What would you like to show to complete strangers?” yields far more privacy-minded answers in my experience, or “What are you okay with giving away about yourself?”

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