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Is there such a thing as an app-free IP camera any more?

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  • makdaam@chaos.socialM makdaam@chaos.social

    @sebastian @mwl just make sure to block them explicitly from accessing the Internet. A lot of the cheap chinese cameras stream directly to Alibaba cloud from the moment they turn on, sometimes over HTTP (without S).

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    #11

    @makdaam @mwl
    yes, it is always a good idea to look at what packets the cam is trying to send (tcpdump, wireshark, ..)

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    • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

      Is there such a thing as an app-free IP camera any more? Just point your browser at an IP, log in, and see what's there?

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      @mwl Yes, but I bought it about 12 years ago.

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      • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

        Is there such a thing as an app-free IP camera any more? Just point your browser at an IP, log in, and see what's there?

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        @mwl I do that with Dahua stuff

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        • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

          Is there such a thing as an app-free IP camera any more? Just point your browser at an IP, log in, and see what's there?

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          #14

          @mwl
          The search keyword is "RTSP".

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          • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

            Is there such a thing as an app-free IP camera any more? Just point your browser at an IP, log in, and see what's there?

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            #15
            @mwl flock cameras seem to be pretty wide open…
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            • brouhaha@mastodon.socialB brouhaha@mastodon.social

              @mwl
              The search keyword is "RTSP".

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              @brouhaha ty!

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              • viq@social.hackerspace.plV viq@social.hackerspace.pl

                @mwl I've heard that people dealing with Home Assistant are quite happy with Reolink cameras. AFAIK able to work fully locally, I don't know if they have something that you can point a browser at, or you need something that understands rtmp.
                Also https://docs.frigate.video/frigate/hardware may give some ideas.

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                @viq @mwl I've been using Reolink cameras for several years, and while they do need the app to do initial configuration, you can enable RTMP, HTTP, HTTPS, and RTSP servers from the config. Be aware that they are cloud connected by default (and thus can be accessed externally), but that can be disabled.

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                • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

                  Is there such a thing as an app-free IP camera any more? Just point your browser at an IP, log in, and see what's there?

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                  #18

                  @mwl Antiques store?

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                  • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

                    Is there such a thing as an app-free IP camera any more? Just point your browser at an IP, log in, and see what's there?

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                    #19

                    @mwl I have an Amcrest which is entirely accessible via Safari. The HTML/JS/CSS is slow to load and provides a quirky UI, but it works.

                    I can also point VLC at the right port and watch the stream without authentication. That's why it sits behind a no-UPNP router.

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                    • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

                      Is there such a thing as an app-free IP camera any more? Just point your browser at an IP, log in, and see what's there?

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                      @mwl Anything onvif-compliant.

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                      • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

                        Is there such a thing as an app-free IP camera any more? Just point your browser at an IP, log in, and see what's there?

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                        @mwl yes (mostly?) maybe?

                        Does video LAN client (VLC) count as an app in this case? It’s not vendor proprietary app.

                        I have some low end cameras off of Amazon in the last year that I can point VLC at and watch videos.

                        I may have needed the bender app to prime things. And I’m not even sure about that.
                        Let me know if you want to know more or have links.

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                        • sebastian@social.itu.dkS sebastian@social.itu.dk

                          @makdaam @mwl
                          yes, it is always a good idea to look at what packets the cam is trying to send (tcpdump, wireshark, ..)

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                          @makdaam @mwl
                          That said, I know of no evidence or reports that TP-Link cams should be trying to send anything to Alibaba (or other Chinese servers).

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