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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

    RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

    The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

    It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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    #19

    @tante

    Clarifications to billionaires:
    Water and electricity are not services, they are HUMAN RIGHTS. Without those two things, people go back to middle age and/or die.

    The so-called "artificial intelligence" has NOTHING intelligent about it. Comparing a computer program to the human brain is a marketing and propaganda operation.

    Rich people think Human Rights are just "services" they can cut off if you dont pay.
    Sadly, they convinced many people that that is true.

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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

      The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

      It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

      _chris_real@kolektiva.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #20

      @tante

      Just the trouble I went through to watch that clip (gatekeepers who are easily challenged by consumers with demands, lol) shows you how they can't make this powerful, unless you pay for it.

      It's like the encryption app that won't work unless all your friends use it—and they all don't.

      Our strength in our convictions, leading to our purchasing choices, IS their Achilles Heel.

      Lenovo just defaulted all their Thinkpads to Linux Ubuntu, all on their own, only as the result of consumer complaints about the latest Microsoft release.

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      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

        RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

        The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

        It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

        janantos@f.czJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #21

        @tante I have a dream, AI can help us and can be helpful tool, but needs to be in hands of people not corporations. imagine something like distributed LLM running some federated way, allowing parcitipants to prompt for exchange of some small portion of compute time of their machine. Trained the same way. Project seti[at]home can be inspiration. And yep I know I have declare now myself as enemy of state and fediverse, but I truly believe this shall be way. We can eradicate AI datacenters, distribute energy usage cross world, save water and destroy that technobross seizure of our future.

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        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

          RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

          The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

          It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

          petesmom@kolektiva.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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          #22

          @tante
          I cannot express enough how disgusting and inhuman I believe Sam's statement is. There needs to be an island for folx who have chosen not to engage as humans with other humans. That this is presented as a normal human being with a normal human thought is mind boggling.

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          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

            RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

            The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

            It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

            gary_alderson@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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            #23

            @tante how many tokens do you really need when they are practically free and you have some time to kill? they are already losing billions, the toxic combo of bill, sam, and elon has effectively killed any hopes of acting in good will or good faith with these guys. There are alternatives, i think it is going to take small biz a few years but viable alternatives will crop up that will alter opportunity cost, cut out the middleman #frank is dead #fair use LV

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            • lritter@mastodon.gamedev.placeL lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place

              @tante but who is going to buy it when everyone's broke?

              ftranschel@norden.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #24

              @lritter @tante I think the answer to this question may put you in despair.

              But don't fret; even good ol' Marie Antoinette already had an answer for that.

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              • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                omegapolice@hachyderm.ioO This user is from outside of this forum
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                #25

                @tante They're already halfway done in some places. Some folks can't read, write, or do basic arithmetics without tool support anymore. Let alone summarize, argue, or conceptualize.

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                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                  RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                  The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                  It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                  ponygirl@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #26

                  @tante Click click...

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                  • ftranschel@norden.socialF ftranschel@norden.social

                    @lritter @tante I think the answer to this question may put you in despair.

                    But don't fret; even good ol' Marie Antoinette already had an answer for that.

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                    #27

                    @ftranschel @lritter @tante despair aside (despair may be a luxury when compared to survival), I think you hit it on the head. Deskill to rent back skill but no skill means no money to buy back.

                    It’s like selling a home while you’re sleeping it.

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                    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                      RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                      The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                      It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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                      spacelifeform@infosec.exchange
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                      #28

                      @tante

                      The love of money is the root of insanity.

                      This is exhibit A.

                      #AI #Insanity #Money

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                      • petesmom@kolektiva.socialP petesmom@kolektiva.social

                        @tante
                        I cannot express enough how disgusting and inhuman I believe Sam's statement is. There needs to be an island for folx who have chosen not to engage as humans with other humans. That this is presented as a normal human being with a normal human thought is mind boggling.

                        not3ottersinacoat@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        not3ottersinacoat@mastodon.social
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                        #29

                        @Petesmom @tante Your island idea is too generous. I'd be happy to see someone drag them out of their mansions and beat them to death in the streets.

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                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                          RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                          The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                          It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                          xs4me2@mastodon.socialX This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #30

                          @tante

                          Making money out of something that now is freely available and is stolen by them...
                          knowledge.

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                          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                            RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                            The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                            It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                            mossman@social.vivaldi.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            mossman@social.vivaldi.net
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                            #31

                            @tante Rick Beato - of all people - made me much more optimistic this morning when he pointed out that far from "owning" the LLMs, all the tech bro companies will go the way of the big expensive music studios when everyone ends up doing it themselves on their own laptop. Excellent point well made, I think...

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTLnnoZPALI

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                            • strayhorse@c.imS strayhorse@c.im

                              @patrick_h_lauke @tante Interesting vid posted yesterday by Rick Beato https://youtu.be/YTLnnoZPALI?si=9DOCmiCwURXovAR6

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                              johncrowden@mstdn.ca
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                              #32

                              @strayhorse @patrick_h_lauke @tante Beato. Interesting guy.

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                              • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                                ruston@mstdn.caR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #33

                                @tante The ones controlling the power want to ensure that those beneath them are uneducated and non critical thinkers. We are not progressing we are in fact going backwards.

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                                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                  RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                  The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                  It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                                  quasit@kolektiva.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  quasit@kolektiva.social
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                                  #34

                                  @tante
                                  Perhaps they will make it illegal to be educated. They could treat it as theft of the intellectual property of the elite. I suppose the punishment would be lobotomy!

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                                  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                    RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                    The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                    It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                                    samiamsam@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #35

                                    @tante

                                    techbroligarchs really are fucking idiots

                                    i have no fucking idea way anyone listens to any of them

                                    *head desk*

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                                    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                      RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                      The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                      It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                                      pizzademon@mastodon.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #36

                                      @tante A) he makes it sound like the instant skill download from The Matrix

                                      B) Would you fly a helicopter if the knowledge pack was assembled by existing AI models? Would a model 5 years out get to six-sigma?

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                                      • mossman@social.vivaldi.netM mossman@social.vivaldi.net

                                        @tante Rick Beato - of all people - made me much more optimistic this morning when he pointed out that far from "owning" the LLMs, all the tech bro companies will go the way of the big expensive music studios when everyone ends up doing it themselves on their own laptop. Excellent point well made, I think...

                                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTLnnoZPALI

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                                        #37

                                        @mossman yeah I didn't find his argument very convincing tbh

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                                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                          RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                          The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                          It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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                                          #38

                                          @tante How quickly the supposed nonprofit mission of OpenAI has been forgotten in favor of "metered intelligence for sale."

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