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  • riverpunk@defcon.socialR riverpunk@defcon.social

    @badsamurai if submissions of this kind are likely to be rejected, it seems the red teamer's approach is simple -- pick pre-existing TLDs, and introduce them as file extensions for important file types!

    Let's invent a new kind of .ai file, or a .net file (a file that connects you to the internet, maybe?)

    (Of course, if you're a reasonable human being, this all is actually a terrible idea)

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    #18

    @riverpunk @badsamurai

    .com used to be for DOS executables.

    https://command.com/ is a home hardware company.

    Not sure why this is a problem now all of a sudden.

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    • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

      Happy #ICANN Reveal Fresh Hell Day! A company in the Caymans would like the TLD .pdf

      And these other spectacular submissions that surely won't end poorly: .sys .key .duo .lab .private .state .auth .conf .config .loc .log .php .url .vpn

      #DNS #RevealDay #blueTeam #tld

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      #19

      @badsamurai kinda like .zip is being blocked by many corporate firewalls.

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      • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

        Happy #ICANN Reveal Fresh Hell Day! A company in the Caymans would like the TLD .pdf

        And these other spectacular submissions that surely won't end poorly: .sys .key .duo .lab .private .state .auth .conf .config .loc .log .php .url .vpn

        #DNS #RevealDay #blueTeam #tld

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        #20

        I missed .lan, .corp and .mail were also submitted. Corp and mail were originally rejected by ICANN in 2012 as thought too dangerous. Somehow 2026 is safer?

        .pdf and .php are technically backup choices, but still an absurd submissions. As is .csr and .bin.

        The inherent trust words have their own issues: .login .auth .account .admin .official .verified. I don't see how these are anything but a ransom against organizations to preempt squatting.

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        • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

          I missed .lan, .corp and .mail were also submitted. Corp and mail were originally rejected by ICANN in 2012 as thought too dangerous. Somehow 2026 is safer?

          .pdf and .php are technically backup choices, but still an absurd submissions. As is .csr and .bin.

          The inherent trust words have their own issues: .login .auth .account .admin .official .verified. I don't see how these are anything but a ransom against organizations to preempt squatting.

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          #21

          @badsamurai see i WOULDA said these would be fantastic redteaming domains, but since ai kinda killed redteaming, its now just prompt fodder for various prompt injection attacks and phishing shits

          netzblockierer@tech.lgbtN ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA 2 Replies Last reply
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          • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

            @badsamurai the IETF could do something very funny right now: publish an RFC that preemptively reserves the abusable ones.

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            #22

            @gsuberland @badsamurai yes, like .example or .local are…

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            • svavar@masto.svavar.comS svavar@masto.svavar.com

              @riverpunk @badsamurai

              .com used to be for DOS executables.

              https://command.com/ is a home hardware company.

              Not sure why this is a problem now all of a sudden.

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              #23

              @svavar @riverpunk @badsamurai how many #MSDOS machines were on the internet when it was relevant?

              • Tinkerers like @rasteri are not the norm and shouldn't be taken as normative example!
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              • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

                Happy #ICANN Reveal Fresh Hell Day! A company in the Caymans would like the TLD .pdf

                And these other spectacular submissions that surely won't end poorly: .sys .key .duo .lab .private .state .auth .conf .config .loc .log .php .url .vpn

                #DNS #RevealDay #blueTeam #tld

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                #24
                @badsamurai i still can't believe they allowed .zip and .app
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                • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

                  Happy #ICANN Reveal Fresh Hell Day! A company in the Caymans would like the TLD .pdf

                  And these other spectacular submissions that surely won't end poorly: .sys .key .duo .lab .private .state .auth .conf .config .loc .log .php .url .vpn

                  #DNS #RevealDay #blueTeam #tld

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                  #25

                  @badsamurai Namespace Ian Malcom has some choice words about why they are called ICANN not ISHOULD.

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                  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                    @badsamurai see i WOULDA said these would be fantastic redteaming domains, but since ai kinda killed redteaming, its now just prompt fodder for various prompt injection attacks and phishing shits

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                    #26

                    @Viss @badsamurai exactly!

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                    • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

                      Happy #ICANN Reveal Fresh Hell Day! A company in the Caymans would like the TLD .pdf

                      And these other spectacular submissions that surely won't end poorly: .sys .key .duo .lab .private .state .auth .conf .config .loc .log .php .url .vpn

                      #DNS #RevealDay #blueTeam #tld

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                      #27

                      The applicant list in case y’all want in on the and find something I’ve missed.

                      https://newgtldprogram-aps.icann.org/applications

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                        #28

                        @rl_dane @badsamurai it’s almost like there’s nobody at ICANN who has even vaguely considered the past few decades of cybersecurity

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                        • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

                          Happy #ICANN Reveal Fresh Hell Day! A company in the Caymans would like the TLD .pdf

                          And these other spectacular submissions that surely won't end poorly: .sys .key .duo .lab .private .state .auth .conf .config .loc .log .php .url .vpn

                          #DNS #RevealDay #blueTeam #tld

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                          #29

                          @badsamurai@infosec.exchange just need .exe now

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                          • darkuncle@infosec.exchangeD darkuncle@infosec.exchange

                            @rl_dane @badsamurai it’s almost like there’s nobody at ICANN who has even vaguely considered the past few decades of cybersecurity

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                            #30

                            @darkuncle @rl_dane Wait until the infosec $vendors stay mum through the entire process. Stopping pre-crime doesn’t exactly increase shareholder value.

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                            • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

                              Happy #ICANN Reveal Fresh Hell Day! A company in the Caymans would like the TLD .pdf

                              And these other spectacular submissions that surely won't end poorly: .sys .key .duo .lab .private .state .auth .conf .config .loc .log .php .url .vpn

                              #DNS #RevealDay #blueTeam #tld

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                              #31

                              @badsamurai No! No god no! Zip was already bad enough what the hell?

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                              • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

                                @darkuncle @rl_dane Wait until the infosec $vendors stay mum through the entire process. Stopping pre-crime doesn’t exactly increase shareholder value.

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                                #32

                                @badsamurai @rl_dane there’s a lot more money to be made in selling a mitigation, than in a problem not existing in the first place

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                                • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

                                  Happy #ICANN Reveal Fresh Hell Day! A company in the Caymans would like the TLD .pdf

                                  And these other spectacular submissions that surely won't end poorly: .sys .key .duo .lab .private .state .auth .conf .config .loc .log .php .url .vpn

                                  #DNS #RevealDay #blueTeam #tld

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                                  #33

                                  @badsamurai

                                  I have applied for .invalid and .404

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                                  • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

                                    Happy #ICANN Reveal Fresh Hell Day! A company in the Caymans would like the TLD .pdf

                                    And these other spectacular submissions that surely won't end poorly: .sys .key .duo .lab .private .state .auth .conf .config .loc .log .php .url .vpn

                                    #DNS #RevealDay #blueTeam #tld

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                                    #34

                                    @badsamurai I can accept every single one of them, but .php. There is no reason to use .php but to scam people. Nobody wants to have a domain name associated directly with php, other than php itself probably.

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                                    • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

                                      Happy #ICANN Reveal Fresh Hell Day! A company in the Caymans would like the TLD .pdf

                                      And these other spectacular submissions that surely won't end poorly: .sys .key .duo .lab .private .state .auth .conf .config .loc .log .php .url .vpn

                                      #DNS #RevealDay #blueTeam #tld

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                                      #35

                                      @badsamurai
                                      At this point, let's just create .exe as a honeypot and mark as phishing any domain that uses it?

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                                      • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

                                        Happy #ICANN Reveal Fresh Hell Day! A company in the Caymans would like the TLD .pdf

                                        And these other spectacular submissions that surely won't end poorly: .sys .key .duo .lab .private .state .auth .conf .config .loc .log .php .url .vpn

                                        #DNS #RevealDay #blueTeam #tld

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                                        #36

                                        @badsamurai
                                        How long before ".corn" is a thing?

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                                        • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

                                          Happy #ICANN Reveal Fresh Hell Day! A company in the Caymans would like the TLD .pdf

                                          And these other spectacular submissions that surely won't end poorly: .sys .key .duo .lab .private .state .auth .conf .config .loc .log .php .url .vpn

                                          #DNS #RevealDay #blueTeam #tld

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                                          #37

                                          @badsamurai We already have DNS servers that blanket ban "unsafe" TLDs. Are we asking for even more trouble?
                                          If you run an org/corp, how could you not ban .pdf or .official?

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