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  3. IDK what DSM is but I know some of you nerds like hacking Synology stuff.

IDK what DSM is but I know some of you nerds like hacking Synology stuff.

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  • wdormann@infosec.exchangeW wdormann@infosec.exchange

    @cR0w
    Synology on September 18:

    Upgrade to 7.4-90075 or above.

    Also Synology on July 24:
    We've released Synology DSM 7.4.1-90080

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    @wdormann

    checks date on calendar

    checks again

    sigh

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    • christopherkunz@chaos.socialC christopherkunz@chaos.social

      @cR0w What. *squints* The first one allows _unauthenticated_ attackers to read arbitrary files on a NAS?
      I errmm... have questions.

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      @christopherkunz The S in NAS stands for security.

      Wait, there is an S in NAS. Dammit. Well, it certainly doesn't stand for security.

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      • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

        @christopherkunz The S in NAS stands for security.

        Wait, there is an S in NAS. Dammit. Well, it certainly doesn't stand for security.

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        @cR0w @christopherkunz "it's not like anyone will attach this storage to a network."

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        • christopherkunz@chaos.socialC christopherkunz@chaos.social

          @cR0w What. *squints* The first one allows _unauthenticated_ attackers to read arbitrary files on a NAS?
          I errmm... have questions.

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          @christopherkunz @cR0w Unauth reads mean that you get 200% credit for 'availability' and can construct the 'AIA triad'.

          And if there are any unauth writes it's 300% credit, you construct the 'AAA' triad and shiftily try to blame DNS. Doesn't work in IPv6 only environments; but what are the odds?

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          • fuzzyfuzzyfungus@cyberplace.socialF fuzzyfuzzyfungus@cyberplace.social

            @christopherkunz @cR0w Unauth reads mean that you get 200% credit for 'availability' and can construct the 'AIA triad'.

            And if there are any unauth writes it's 300% credit, you construct the 'AAA' triad and shiftily try to blame DNS. Doesn't work in IPv6 only environments; but what are the odds?

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            @fuzzyfuzzyfungus @christopherkunz I believe you mean "AITA" since you're talking about Synology.

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            • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

              @christopherkunz The S in NAS stands for security.

              Wait, there is an S in NAS. Dammit. Well, it certainly doesn't stand for security.

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              @cR0w The "H" in Synology stands for "Hardened".

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              • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                @wdormann

                checks date on calendar

                checks again

                sigh

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                @cR0w
                I can only assume that this is a case of "roll out the update and wait long enough for the masses to install it before telling anyone about the vulnerabilities it fixes" ? 🤷‍♂️

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                • wdormann@infosec.exchangeW wdormann@infosec.exchange

                  @cR0w
                  I can only assume that this is a case of "roll out the update and wait long enough for the masses to install it before telling anyone about the vulnerabilities it fixes" ? 🤷‍♂️

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                  @wdormann I'm glad that's not as common as it used to be but it still frustrates me when vendors do that.

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                  • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                    @fuzzyfuzzyfungus @christopherkunz I believe you mean "AITA" since you're talking about Synology.

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                    @cR0w @christopherkunz Once they started with the drive-locking nonsense that was no longer a question.

                    Yeah guys, sell dodgy SMB toys; try to play enterprise SAN pricing games. Hell no.

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                    • fuzzyfuzzyfungus@cyberplace.socialF fuzzyfuzzyfungus@cyberplace.social

                      @cR0w @christopherkunz Once they started with the drive-locking nonsense that was no longer a question.

                      Yeah guys, sell dodgy SMB toys; try to play enterprise SAN pricing games. Hell no.

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                      @fuzzyfuzzyfungus @christopherkunz I don't know much about them but I hear people talk about using them all the time and I occasionally find a random one on a network for what I am sure is totally legit purposes.

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                      • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                        @fuzzyfuzzyfungus @christopherkunz I don't know much about them but I hear people talk about using them all the time and I occasionally find a random one on a network for what I am sure is totally legit purposes.

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                        @cR0w @fuzzyfuzzyfungus This whole toot could be about a NAS or a Cobalt Strike beacon.

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                        • christopherkunz@chaos.socialC christopherkunz@chaos.social

                          @cR0w @fuzzyfuzzyfungus This whole toot could be about a NAS or a Cobalt Strike beacon.

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                          @christopherkunz @fuzzyfuzzyfungus OMG you're right.

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