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  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    Waymo Exec Admits Remote Drivers in Philippines.

    Mechanical Turk, meet Mechanical Filipino: Mauricio Peña, the company's Chief Safety Officer, confirmed under questioning that the Google subsidiary employs human operators abroad [...] "They provide...
    https://jwz.org/b/yk3E

    fluffydotorg@sfba.socialF markus@toot.orchid-cottage.ukM jripley@mastodon.socialJ jgilbert@mastodon.socialJ hotsoup@infosec.exchangeH 6 Replies Last reply
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      Waymo Exec Admits Remote Drivers in Philippines.

      Mechanical Turk, meet Mechanical Filipino: Mauricio Peña, the company's Chief Safety Officer, confirmed under questioning that the Google subsidiary employs human operators abroad [...] "They provide...
      https://jwz.org/b/yk3E

      fluffydotorg@sfba.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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      @jwz I mean I don't change gears manually in my car any more and when I use the radar cruise control on the freeway I guess I'm just advising the vehicle as well, rather than driving it. I'm still in the driver seat though, and if CHP tell me to pull over I'm going to pull over and have my licence, registration, and insurance card ready by the time they get to the window.

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        @jwz I mean I don't change gears manually in my car any more and when I use the radar cruise control on the freeway I guess I'm just advising the vehicle as well, rather than driving it. I'm still in the driver seat though, and if CHP tell me to pull over I'm going to pull over and have my licence, registration, and insurance card ready by the time they get to the window.

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        @fluffydotorg @jwz I'm guessing you also don't claim to be changing gears manually when you aren't. When you say "I'm driving", everyone knows you aren't a little homunculus inside the engine moving pistons and pushing fluid around. When Waymo says the cars are self-driving, it leads people to believe they... drive themselves, which is not the case.

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          @fluffydotorg @jwz I'm guessing you also don't claim to be changing gears manually when you aren't. When you say "I'm driving", everyone knows you aren't a little homunculus inside the engine moving pistons and pushing fluid around. When Waymo says the cars are self-driving, it leads people to believe they... drive themselves, which is not the case.

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          @theorangetheme @jwz 100% exactly my gen-x cynical point

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          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

            Waymo Exec Admits Remote Drivers in Philippines.

            Mechanical Turk, meet Mechanical Filipino: Mauricio Peña, the company's Chief Safety Officer, confirmed under questioning that the Google subsidiary employs human operators abroad [...] "They provide...
            https://jwz.org/b/yk3E

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            @jwz Absolutely shocked at this development.
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              Waymo Exec Admits Remote Drivers in Philippines.

              Mechanical Turk, meet Mechanical Filipino: Mauricio Peña, the company's Chief Safety Officer, confirmed under questioning that the Google subsidiary employs human operators abroad [...] "They provide...
              https://jwz.org/b/yk3E

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              @jwz There was some prior, unrelated bombshell about this, I think which came out in discovery: each additional Waymo on the streets requires closer *two* people to manage it, than the one you'd need for a taxi/uber/lyft. So they're not even an efficient form of automation. What's compelling, though, is the operators don't need to be local, or even in the same country, and you don't even need to pay those pesky income taxes to the local government.

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                @docpop @jwz 💯 also JWZ can we get Dread Zeppelin to perform? Sorry for even asking.

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                  Waymo Exec Admits Remote Drivers in Philippines.

                  Mechanical Turk, meet Mechanical Filipino: Mauricio Peña, the company's Chief Safety Officer, confirmed under questioning that the Google subsidiary employs human operators abroad [...] "They provide...
                  https://jwz.org/b/yk3E

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                  @jwz time to post up some cardboard signs around town

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                    Waymo Exec Admits Remote Drivers in Philippines.

                    Mechanical Turk, meet Mechanical Filipino: Mauricio Peña, the company's Chief Safety Officer, confirmed under questioning that the Google subsidiary employs human operators abroad [...] "They provide...
                    https://jwz.org/b/yk3E

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                    @jwz ah the classic ‘is it advanced tech or just mturks’

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                    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                      Waymo Exec Admits Remote Drivers in Philippines.

                      Mechanical Turk, meet Mechanical Filipino: Mauricio Peña, the company's Chief Safety Officer, confirmed under questioning that the Google subsidiary employs human operators abroad [...] "They provide...
                      https://jwz.org/b/yk3E

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                      @jwz

                      So Waymo, a US company of some sort, employs people without California drivers' licenses as commercial drivers and puts them on public roads.

                      That seems like a bit of a slam-dunk for a prosecutor, but what do I know? I don't have millions to bribe city/state officials with.

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