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  • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

    @quinn his twitter profile says he's a CTO...

    ...

    ...

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    @neurovagrant uhhhh better late than never I guess?

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    • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

      @neurovagrant In 2005, we had a rookie security consultant doing a penetration test for our client. To demonstrate that the client's app was vulnerable to SQL injection, he ran drop table users; via injection.

      Twenty years of progress means we can make the rookie mistakes faster and with fewer employees.

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      @paco @neurovagrant 🫠

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      • quinn@social.circl.luQ quinn@social.circl.lu

        @neurovagrant uhhhh better late than never I guess?

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        #17

        @quinn 😂

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        • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

          @jztusk @paco @neurovagrant

          A simple select * from users would've been fine just to prove the point.

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          #18

          @jrdepriest @jztusk @paco @neurovagrant no, drop tables *also* let's you demonstrate the presence or absence of effective backups. It's a two for one test!

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          • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

            @jztusk @paco @neurovagrant

            A simple select * from users would've been fine just to prove the point.

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            #19

            @jrdepriest @jztusk @paco @neurovagrant "oh, it's only data exfil, that's not so bad" Some people have very limited imaginations, and need an unequivocal demonstration.

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            • taffer@mastodon.gamedev.placeT taffer@mastodon.gamedev.place

              @n_dimension @neurovagrant Doesn’t seem to matter: https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/08/27/your-agents-md-file-doesnt-actually-do-anything/

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              @Taffer @neurovagrant

              Nobody writes a CLAUDE.md to raise their pass rate on code issues. They write it so the agent follows the project's conventions. The study scored the first and got quoted as debunking the second.

              There is a token overhead on compliance (about 20%?), it works for me, though I never run a project without it.

              Edit: Though its the weakest counterpoint, AGENTS.md =\= CLAUDE.md and the fact the author doesn't seem to know that, irks me more than it should.

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              • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                @quinn 😂

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                #21

                @neurovagrant @quinn cool now we get to see how well he handles disaster recovery and business continuity

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                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                  @neurovagrant @quinn cool now we get to see how well he handles disaster recovery and business continuity

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                  #22

                  @Viss @neurovagrant Letsss goooooo

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                  • womble@infosec.exchangeW womble@infosec.exchange

                    @jrdepriest @jztusk @paco @neurovagrant "oh, it's only data exfil, that's not so bad" Some people have very limited imaginations, and need an unequivocal demonstration.

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                    #23

                    @womble @jrdepriest @paco @neurovagrant

                    Exactly. "Well that's only showing they can read", whereas having an unrequested calculator sitting there on your desktop is very undeniable.

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                    • jztusk@mastodon.socialJ jztusk@mastodon.social

                      @womble @jrdepriest @paco @neurovagrant

                      Exactly. "Well that's only showing they can read", whereas having an unrequested calculator sitting there on your desktop is very undeniable.

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                      #24

                      @jztusk @womble @paco @neurovagrant

                      Mission accomplished with the table drop, then?

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                      • quinn@social.circl.luQ quinn@social.circl.lu

                        @Viss @neurovagrant Letsss goooooo

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                        #25

                        @quinn @neurovagrant someone rm'ing themselves because they gave claude too much access, who self-identifies as a cto, strikes me as one of those "php ceo" types, who does a lot of talking but never really produces stuff or makes anything interesting or worthwhile.

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                        • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                          the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                          @neurovagrant apes gone

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                          • jztusk@mastodon.socialJ jztusk@mastodon.social

                            @paco @neurovagrant

                            I've always liked how the default demonstration of vulnerability on Windows was is opening calc.exe. isn't there a similar sensible SQL default?

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                            @jztusk There are tons. Calculations or delays that indicate it was processed without doing anything to data.
                            @neurovagrant

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                            • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

                              @jztusk @womble @paco @neurovagrant

                              Mission accomplished with the table drop, then?

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                              @jrdepriest @womble @paco @neurovagrant

                              Well, you *can* then just close the calculator, though you can't deny that it was there.

                              I was wondering if the was some standard, like you create a table named "tag_youre_it", and insert "boop" in a CHAR(4) field. Reversible, but undeniable.

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                              • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                @neurovagrant @quinn cool now we get to see how well he handles disaster recovery and business continuity

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                                @Viss @neurovagrant @quinn rizaster decovery and business kindakablooey?

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                                • jztusk@mastodon.socialJ jztusk@mastodon.social

                                  @jrdepriest @womble @paco @neurovagrant

                                  Well, you *can* then just close the calculator, though you can't deny that it was there.

                                  I was wondering if the was some standard, like you create a table named "tag_youre_it", and insert "boop" in a CHAR(4) field. Reversible, but undeniable.

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                                  @jztusk @womble @paco @neurovagrant

                                  Like leaving an empty file called pwned on /.

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                                  • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

                                    @jztusk @womble @paco @neurovagrant

                                    Mission accomplished with the table drop, then?

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                                    #31

                                    @jrdepriest It’s a true story, but I tell it a certain way to get a reaction. It was in a UAT environment, not prod. To be fair, it was a precious UAT environment that hundreds of people count on. It was not quick to rebuild. The client was pissed. But it wasn’t deleting real users from the real web site.

                                    @jztusk @womble @neurovagrant

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                                    • jztusk@mastodon.socialJ jztusk@mastodon.social

                                      @jrdepriest @womble @paco @neurovagrant

                                      Well, you *can* then just close the calculator, though you can't deny that it was there.

                                      I was wondering if the was some standard, like you create a table named "tag_youre_it", and insert "boop" in a CHAR(4) field. Reversible, but undeniable.

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                                      @jztusk @jrdepriest @paco @neurovagrant CREATE TABLE l33th4x0rs (pwned bool default true); does seem like the least intrusive way to demonstrate the acquisition of significant privileges.

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                                      • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

                                        @jztusk @womble @paco @neurovagrant

                                        Like leaving an empty file called pwned on /.

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                                        @jrdepriest @womble @paco @neurovagrant

                                        Exactly!

                                        (Is that a common file system POC sign?)

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                                        • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                          the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                                          @neurovagrant I love seeing ai bros bitching about shit us older geeks warned would happen, especially those of us who worked on real AI.

                                          They're using LLMs for shit it's not good at then bitching about the broken shit. I'm just going to keep eating my popcorn.

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