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  • N nickchomey@mastodon.social

    @tg @ska

    I don't think a colon fits at all. Comma perhaps. My hyphen-as-em dash seems to be the appropriate way to handle it - at least that's what I'll continue doing.

    An example (picked at random) of how my style differs (and not saying that you should change anything)

    > This is the old machinery. Not pure. Not beautiful. Not easy to use.

    This is the old machinery: not pure, beautiful or easy to use.

    No idea which is more correct or effective. But yours just reeks of LLM, even if it isn't

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    #48

    @nickchomey @tg @ska You could always use the UK English style instead, which is a spaced en dash (Alt+0150). As a translator, that's what I now default to (having been told in no uncertain terms when I submitted one of my very first projects that my previous habit, of using hyphens, was unacceptable!)

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    • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

      📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

      The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

      A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

      https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

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      #49

      @tg Just sent a note to myself for later use of your text - by e-mail. 😉

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      • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

        📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

        The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

        A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

        https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

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        #50

        @tg HELL yes. Been working on a piece about this myself, collecting up articles and such for it, like this one! Great piece - 💯

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        • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

          @ska I've done some general reading on how they write. you can't do reversals (not this, that!) and you can't use triads (this, other, thing). And we all know you can't use em-dashes even though my natural style is to use all of those because I think they're effective. sigh

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          #51

          @tg @ska Not this that is my fav there - the tell is that llms do it randomly without any reason to think or talk about "this" while people use it in context of a larger discourse to differentiate and navigate reader expectations.

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          • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

            📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

            The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

            A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

            https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

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            #52

            @tg So nice. Thanks for this.

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            • hinnerk@mastodon.socialH hinnerk@mastodon.social

              @tg @johl The internet I grew up on was ftp, finger, gopher, usenet and telnet. No one sane would allow someone to use any of that to access something in 2026.

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              #53
              @Hinnerk
              Isn't that why gemini:// nowadays exists?

              @tg @johl
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              • fasnix@fe.disroot.orgF fasnix@fe.disroot.org
                @Hinnerk
                Isn't that why gemini:// nowadays exists?

                @tg @johl
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                #54

                @fasnix @tg @johl Wich comes with a trunk of security issues on it‘s own. Biggest question: Does it only exist or will it also be used?

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                • hinnerk@mastodon.socialH hinnerk@mastodon.social

                  @fasnix @tg @johl Wich comes with a trunk of security issues on it‘s own. Biggest question: Does it only exist or will it also be used?

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                  #55
                  @Hinnerk
                  I'm not a technician or programmer, that's why I have to ask what kind of security issues it has?

                  As far as I can tell, it is being used, however very niche.
                  (I love that I can read the TAZ on it every day.)

                  @tg @johl
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                  • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                    📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                    The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                    A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                    https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

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                    #56

                    @tg Wonderfully written. Thank you!

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                    • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                      📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                      The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                      A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                      https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

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                      #57

                      @tg

                      <blink></blink>

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                      • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                        📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                        The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                        A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                        https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

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                        #58

                        @tg Awesome read! Loved it and i agree wholeheartedly.
                        It wasn't uncommon for my group to talk about online culture (as do chronically online individuals) and one point that came up often was how spaces online were centralized and squished together.
                        People who were into cats and those who were into dogs now had to co-live together for better or for worse instead of having their spaces each. I used cats and dogs for this but this applies to a lot of topics.

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                        • sr_rolando@fnordon.deS sr_rolando@fnordon.de

                          @tg Good read. And I truly ❤ the UI of your page.

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                          #59

                          @sr_rolando @tg ah, the design drove me batty. There is zero need I can see for such scroll-fuckery, which also broke reader-view.

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                          • cowman@thecanadian.socialC cowman@thecanadian.social

                            @sr_rolando @tg ah, the design drove me batty. There is zero need I can see for such scroll-fuckery, which also broke reader-view.

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                            #60

                            @CowMan You did see the link to https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet/ascii right there on the page, didn’t you? @tg

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                            • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                              📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                              The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                              A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                              https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

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                              #61

                              @tg ok wow this page is a javascript crime. worse than normal text would be for no reason

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                              • sr_rolando@fnordon.deS sr_rolando@fnordon.de

                                @CowMan You did see the link to https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet/ascii right there on the page, didn’t you? @tg

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                                #62

                                @sr_rolando @tg ohhhhhhh I did not.. ❤️

                                Well, really wish I hadn't missed that. Yes much nicer 😛

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                                • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                                  📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                                  The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                                  A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                                  https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

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                                  #63

                                  @tg Thank you! I enjoyed reading that.

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                                  • janeishly@beige.partyJ janeishly@beige.party

                                    @nickchomey @tg @ska You could always use the UK English style instead, which is a spaced en dash (Alt+0150). As a translator, that's what I now default to (having been told in no uncertain terms when I submitted one of my very first projects that my previous habit, of using hyphens, was unacceptable!)

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                                    #64

                                    @janeishly @tg @ska thanks, I was unaware that UK preferred en dash! But as far as I'm concerned, en and em dash are the same thing. Lazy hyphens are the way forward! (I don't write anything "professionally" - if I did, I'd probably be more willing to use en or em)

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                                    • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                                      📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                                      The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                                      A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                                      https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

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                                      #65

                                      @tg
                                      I strongly disagree, because first the terminology Internet describes the borderline structure and in my opinion not the layers on top of it.

                                      Secondly, this so-called Internet is a vast and almost infinite space, literally in the name.

                                      Third, there are so many layers of or in this Internet that are split into other layers in itself and so on. When one gets filled up or mutilated beyond repair, another one takes over or else.

                                      Long story short, there is no "the internet" but many different flavors/variations of this concept, running on top of hardware that spanning the globe across cultures and borders alike.

                                      Internet was and is what you and people in general make of it. 😉

                                      #Internet #society #technology #digital
                                      @bestiaexmachina

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                                      • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                                        📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                                        The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                                        A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                                        https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

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                                        #66

                                        @tg the start of the essay is right, that *did* make me feel better.

                                        I first got online in 2001 and I miss 2000s internet every day, it's lovely to know that what really *made* the early internet is all still around and never went away. Makes me want to learn how to use it.

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                                        • sr_rolando@fnordon.deS sr_rolando@fnordon.de

                                          @CowMan You did see the link to https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet/ascii right there on the page, didn’t you? @tg

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                                          #67

                                          @sr_rolando @CowMan @tg OMG THANK YOU... I really wanted to read this but I HATE sites that slowly/barely fade in a few lines at a time the entire time, I cannot do this progressive whatever design.

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