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  3. If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check.

If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check.

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  • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

    https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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    • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

      If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

      https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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      gerardthornley@hachyderm.io
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      #2

      @nina_kali_nina Interesting. I got a much more "we're doing this, but in as privacy protecting way as we're able" impression from their press release the other day.
      I'm satisfied I made the right decision regardless of how they presented it. (Closing my account).

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      • G gerardthornley@hachyderm.io

        @nina_kali_nina Interesting. I got a much more "we're doing this, but in as privacy protecting way as we're able" impression from their press release the other day.
        I'm satisfied I made the right decision regardless of how they presented it. (Closing my account).

        nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @GerardThornley I'm going to keep mine for now, as one-to-one chats are still not going to be limited, but *sigh* very predictable outcome, isn't it

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        • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

          If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

          https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

          hp@mastodon.tmm.cxH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @nina_kali_nina oh good...

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          • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

            If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

            https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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            vae@shark.vaeda.space
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            #5

            @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt somehow not surprising.. 😔

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            • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

              @GerardThornley I'm going to keep mine for now, as one-to-one chats are still not going to be limited, but *sigh* very predictable outcome, isn't it

              davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @nina_kali_nina @GerardThornley yeah like facebook, there's too many people i'm not in touch with any other way

              but it's more than a little annoying

              discord does its value proposition very well! it's a pity about the company

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              • G gerardthornley@hachyderm.io

                @nina_kali_nina Interesting. I got a much more "we're doing this, but in as privacy protecting way as we're able" impression from their press release the other day.
                I'm satisfied I made the right decision regardless of how they presented it. (Closing my account).

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                froztbyte@mastodon.social
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                #7

                @GerardThornley @nina_kali_nina the implementation they were using at the time of posting that is the k-id system as developed by OpenAge (and you can see reference to this in the source linked from https://age-verifier.kibty.town/). I haven't done an in-depth analysis of how that system worked but the blurb on its page _looked_ reasonable (but absolutely still pending analysis)

                discord is switching to Persona "because bypasses" (per a Taylor Lorenz tweet/skeet, didn't see article alongside it)

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                • F froztbyte@mastodon.social

                  @GerardThornley @nina_kali_nina the implementation they were using at the time of posting that is the k-id system as developed by OpenAge (and you can see reference to this in the source linked from https://age-verifier.kibty.town/). I haven't done an in-depth analysis of how that system worked but the blurb on its page _looked_ reasonable (but absolutely still pending analysis)

                  discord is switching to Persona "because bypasses" (per a Taylor Lorenz tweet/skeet, didn't see article alongside it)

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                  froztbyte@mastodon.social
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                  #8

                  @GerardThornley @nina_kali_nina to be clear, not stanning any part of this, just trying to provide context on how/what shifted recently and how to read information seen both then and now

                  the whole damn thing is bad and should fuck off, but 100x moreso if they go with thielco shit

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                  • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                    If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                    https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

                    mr_greeb@snabelen.noM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    mr_greeb@snabelen.no
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                    #9

                    @nina_kali_nina oh, come on... Can't there be anything fun left in the world? ;_;

                    ...apart from the fediverse, of course 🔥🔥

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                    • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                      If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                      https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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                      simonzerafa@infosec.exchange
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                      #10

                      @nina_kali_nina

                      Already cancelled my account 😉🤷‍♂️

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                      • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                        If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                        https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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                        pythno@mastodon.gamedev.place
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                        #11

                        @nina_kali_nina so that is how Palantir gets its data 🙂 The internet really sucks if you don’t host your own shit.

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                        • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                          If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                          https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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                          ariarhythmic@ohai.social
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                          #12

                          @nina_kali_nina I assume the Peter Thiel guy is part of the "Epstein class" and does mass surveillance, but I'd like some clarification on the implications here so I don't have to assume

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                          • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                            If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                            https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

                            retrocoffee@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            retrocoffee@mastodon.social
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                            #13

                            @nina_kali_nina Hmm, so the company's statement that all of the verification was done locally on your phone was a lie, eh?

                            No surprise. I think it's time that everyone by default not trust any big tech company.

                            If you don't understand the tech, don't participate.

                            If you gut feeling is unsure, don't participate.

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                            • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                              @GerardThornley I'm going to keep mine for now, as one-to-one chats are still not going to be limited, but *sigh* very predictable outcome, isn't it

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                              gerardthornley@hachyderm.io
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                              #14

                              @nina_kali_nina 👍Personally, I wouldn't so bothered if a) people could choose their own service provider (which would presumably need some sort of accreditation), and b) the only information passed was a boolean for "age is above threshold".

                              I haven't deleted it just yet, and am still wondering about it, but I think the policy is a sign of the trajectory, and I don't want to have to delete it under the pressure of some future update. Also, I want to send a signal.

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                              • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

                                @nina_kali_nina I assume the Peter Thiel guy is part of the "Epstein class" and does mass surveillance, but I'd like some clarification on the implications here so I don't have to assume

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                                nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt
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                                #15

                                @ariarhythmic Peter Thiel is the CEO of Palantir, a company that provides surveillance for governments. The guy himself is a famous far right billionaire, he keeps speaking up against democracy, and incidentally mentioned in the last batch of Epstein files hundreds of times, or so I've heard. The most concerning things, of course, are surveillance and anti democracy

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                                • retrocoffee@mastodon.socialR retrocoffee@mastodon.social

                                  @nina_kali_nina Hmm, so the company's statement that all of the verification was done locally on your phone was a lie, eh?

                                  No surprise. I think it's time that everyone by default not trust any big tech company.

                                  If you don't understand the tech, don't participate.

                                  If you gut feeling is unsure, don't participate.

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                                  nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt
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                                  #16

                                  @retrocoffee it wasn't a lie when they did the announcement, but they switched the provider when there was a bypass found for the local verification

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                                  • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                                    If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                                    https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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                                    matthewcroughan@social.defenestrate.it
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                                    #17
                                    Yes, I am most definitely out, and trying to take my friends with me.
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                                    • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                                      @retrocoffee it wasn't a lie when they did the announcement, but they switched the provider when there was a bypass found for the local verification

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                                      #18

                                      @nina_kali_nina 🤦 OMG this never ends.

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                                      • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                                        If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                                        https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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                                        charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social
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                                        #19

                                        @nina_kali_nina

                                        will ID checks come to #mastodon too?

                                        and who will carry them out?

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                                        • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                                          If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                                          https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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                                          #20

                                          @nina_kali_nina I know they’re going to play coy ad infinitum, per the late-stage capitalism handbook, but I do really wish they would just admit what they’re doing and own up to it. Rip the mask off, be honest about what they’re doing with our data, and unapologetically declare it.

                                          It’s not like it would change anything. Maybe some Europeans would realize they’re being wholesale spied on by private American companies who sell the data to allow them to be targeted, but I suspect the vast majority would simply chug along like normal because it’s the most convenient group chat software available.

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