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  • kdwarn@social.coopK kdwarn@social.coop

    @Beggarmidas I think there's quite the difference between isolationism and reducing the number of U.S. troops and bases across the globe. I'd argue that the world, and the average U.S. person, would be far better without U.S. imperialism. Besides that, should the value of the U.S. dollar decrease, it would mean fewer imports and more exports, which would be a good thing.

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    #68

    @kdwarn Eh, with one caveat. The USA did pursue some imperialist practices pre world war one, but we'd largely ended those practices by 1908. (Might have been 1912. Forgive my aging memory) It was more of a 'we did it because everyone was doing it' sort of geopolitical thing. EG the international 'norm' Once we'd decided we were going to encourage/endorse ending of colonialism practices globally we abandoned those overtones at the policy level.

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    • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

      US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

      It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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      #69

      @Strandjunker If you're ever wondering about Trump's motives, just ask yourself "what would Putin do?". But currently Russia can't even beat Ukraine, and they'd be no match for Europe, with or without the U.S. #agent_krasnov

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      • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

        US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

        It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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        #70

        That might be THE logistics base to support operations in the mid-East if Al Udeid is all shot to Hell.

        @Strandjunker

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        • beggarmidas@mastodon.socialB beggarmidas@mastodon.social

          @kdwarn Eh, with one caveat. The USA did pursue some imperialist practices pre world war one, but we'd largely ended those practices by 1908. (Might have been 1912. Forgive my aging memory) It was more of a 'we did it because everyone was doing it' sort of geopolitical thing. EG the international 'norm' Once we'd decided we were going to encourage/endorse ending of colonialism practices globally we abandoned those overtones at the policy level.

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          #71

          @Beggarmidas Central and South America in the 1900s? Various African countries?

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          • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

            US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

            It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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            #72

            @Strandjunker

            #putinpuppet #trump

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            • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

              US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

              It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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              #73

              @Strandjunker

              Only stupid voters can elect and reelect a stupid president.

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              • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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                #74

                @Strandjunker Whoa whoa whoa....

                You're saying the USA needs allies to help keep them safe?!?!?!eleven?!?!!!?

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                • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                  US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                  It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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                  #75

                  @Strandjunker
                  If it happens gradually it is even good for Europe.
                  There are a lot if folks, including me, that don't want to be dependent on any other countries outside Europe. So Trump is actually doing us a favor.

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                  • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                    US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                    It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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                    #76

                    @Strandjunker https://nrw.social/@vgoller/116503590090655048

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                    • guillotine_jones@beige.partyG guillotine_jones@beige.party

                      @dissident @Strandjunker
                      Remember, Trump serves only himself and Putin.

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                      #77

                      @Guillotine_Jones @dissident @Strandjunker Benjamin Netanyahu enters the chat.

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                      • jimbliss@mastodon.ieJ jimbliss@mastodon.ie

                        @baglava @Strandjunker Well it's taken Putin about 4 years to march 250km into Ukraine.

                        At that rate, we can expect him in Lisbon sometime in 2090.

                        Do we think he'll still be alive in 64 years?

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                        #78

                        @JimBliss @baglava @Strandjunker
                        Could fragile egos like Vladimir and Donald bear the thought that life on Earth would go on after they’re gone?

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                        • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                          US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                          It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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                          #79

                          @Strandjunker

                          Most Americans can't see past next Friday. The Trump regeim sees only the worst in people.

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                          • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                            US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                            It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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                            #80

                            @Strandjunker @pluralistic tRump & his supporters have less intelligence than soap bubbles

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