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When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

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  • michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM michael_w_busch@mastodon.online

    @futurebird

    Mostly I have that one memorized. Otherwise, I decompose it into 5*8 + 2*8, which is 40 + 16.

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    #109

    @michael_w_busch @futurebird Yup, same. Alas, I don't have the full* table memorized these days, but I know enough to be dangerous and can 2-step my way to the answer.

    * Did we all learn up to 12x12? That's how UK schools do/did it.

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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

      That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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      #110

      @futurebird 4*14, maybe?

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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

        That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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        #111

        @futurebird
        Memorized, sure, but that particular product takes me a second to remember it.

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

          That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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          #112

          ohk im happy with the poll result, im also one of those that have some basic math thingies memorized and not really do any math to figure it out... phew!

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          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

            When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

            That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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            #113

            @futurebird I will admit to doing 7×7 in my head and then adding seven!

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            • akamran@indieweb.socialA akamran@indieweb.social

              @futurebird I did 7*7=49 then added 7, which means 1 less than 7+50 (because ending in 9), resulting in 56.

              I did have the multiplication tables memorized in 3 & 4 grade, but I don't really much basic math on a daily basis, and if I do, I generally need to write it down so I can see it. I'm afraid that if I don't make a deliberate effort, I'll be innumerate.

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              #114

              @akamran @futurebird

              28*2 or 50-14 probably.

              Rote - instant recall - memorization of the entire table seems unnecessary to me… once the first half is in your head the rest is available quickly though doubling and adjacent addition/subtraction, but also, because human brains are very inconsistent at it. Personally, I think that flexibility of knowing how to connect relationships across categories and patterns is a huge part of learning to *think* mathematically.

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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                #115

                @futurebird I would say I don’t have it memorized. With the explanation given, I’ll probably use the other math fact that I have 2**n memorized a bit. So 8**2 = 64 then 64-8 = 56.

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                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                  When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                  That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                  #116

                  @futurebird I know my squares, so I do 7*7 and then add 7.

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                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                    When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                    That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                    #117

                    @futurebird when I was little I hated math and did everything to get out of doing any math. So I memorized the times tables, which I guess must have seemed easier? Anyway I remember being able to recite the correct answer quickly when it was just numbers, but being stumped when it was a word problem with apples or whatever.

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                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                      When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                      That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                      #118

                      @futurebird@sauropods.win

                      When I forget my timestables:
                      7 * 10 = 70.
                      10-8 = 2.
                      2 * 7 = 14.
                      70-14 = 56.

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                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                        When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                        That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                        #119

                        @futurebird 7×8 = 5×8 + 2×8 = (10×8)/2 + 2×8 = 80/2 + 8 + 8 = 40 + 16 = 56

                        easy

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                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                          When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                          That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                          #120

                          @futurebird I remember learning my times tables as a kid. I still have the desk that I learned them at 😊

                          Some of that has faded - for some reason I always stumble over results in the 40-60 range. So for this one (7*8) I would probably guess 56 or thereabouts, then check my work knowing that 8 squared is 64.

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                          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                            When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                            That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                            #121

                            @futurebird I think 56, then doubt myself and think 5,6,7,8. Yes. 56=7*8

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                            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                              When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                              That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                              #122

                              @futurebird I used to remember almost the entire multiplication table when I was at school, but I forgot most of it shortly after the final exams. But I can calculate it as something like 7*8=14*4=28+28=40+16=56

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                              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                                That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                                #123

                                @futurebird

                                i have the benefit of being required early in public school to memorize the 12 by 12 multiplication table

                                in retrospect, it has stood me in good stead uncountable (see what i did there) times

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                                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                  When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                                  That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                                  #124

                                  @futurebird

                                  Not convinced I do it the same way every time. This time, I relied on having the value of 7-squared memorized then added another 7.

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                                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                    When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                                    That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                                    #125

                                    @futurebird I knkw 7x7=49 and I add another 7.

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                                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                      When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                                      That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                                      #126

                                      @futurebird oddly enough, it was exactly this multiplication that tripped me up in front of an entire classroom - for some reason my brain had slipped a notch and decided 8*7 was 63... which, given that i was one of the school's star mathematicians, was a little bit embarrassing

                                      so i picked the 3rd option in honour of that, although i have obviously never forgotten that eight sevens are fifty-six since...

                                      😳

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                                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                        When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                                        That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                                        #127

                                        @futurebird For some odd reason I have managed to keep all of the x *x numbers (all the squares) up to 100 memorized lo these many years. So I just square 7, then add or subtract 7s as required.

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                                        • michaelporter@ottawa.placeM michaelporter@ottawa.place

                                          @futurebird I remember learning my times tables as a kid. I still have the desk that I learned them at 😊

                                          Some of that has faded - for some reason I always stumble over results in the 40-60 range. So for this one (7*8) I would probably guess 56 or thereabouts, then check my work knowing that 8 squared is 64.

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                                          #128

                                          @MichaelPorter @futurebird I liked the fact that the 9-bys were a palindrome: 18 81, 27 72, 36 63, 45 54.

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