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  • kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.netK kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.net

    Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!

    zaire@fedi.absturztau.beZ This user is from outside of this forum
    zaire@fedi.absturztau.beZ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #2

    @KitsuneofInari “as long as the contributor understands the code” understands is subjective, and they’re guaranteed to understand it less, so really its just apologism for converting codebases into unmaintainable dumpster fires

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    • zaire@fedi.absturztau.beZ zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

      @KitsuneofInari “as long as the contributor understands the code” understands is subjective, and they’re guaranteed to understand it less, so really its just apologism for converting codebases into unmaintainable dumpster fires

      zaire@fedi.absturztau.beZ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #3

      @KitsuneofInari based maintainer we need more takes like that in the space ^^

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      • kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.netK kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.net

        Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!

        lumi@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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        #4

        @KitsuneofInari @halla ​​

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        • kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.netK kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.net

          Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!

          tock@corteximplant.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #5

          @KitsuneofInari I love you Krita! And all the developers, too!

          Been backing Affinity for the longest time, since nobody has to wonder on Adobe's position on AI ("we're already vibing our source code, use Firefly!") Affinity 3.0 was the biggest disappointment.

          Thank you for this.

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          • kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.netK kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.net

            Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!

            catraxx@tech.lgbtC This user is from outside of this forum
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            #6

            @KitsuneofInari Fuck yeah!

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            • kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.netK kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.net

              Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!

              venite@mastodon.nlV This user is from outside of this forum
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              #7

              @KitsuneofInari @halla ❤️💙

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              • kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.netK kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.net

                Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!

                li@tech.lgbtL This user is from outside of this forum
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                #8

                @KitsuneofInari im not sure id say that understanding of code is a boolean function of just either fully understanding everything including any and all bugs that could ever arise, and not understanding it at all, but rather a variable level of some understanding,

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                • kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.netK kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.net

                  Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!

                  g1comics@equestria.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #9

                  @KitsuneofInari I checked and here's the post ♥️ @halla

                  https://krita-artists.org/t/policy-on-llm-code/178248/12

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                  • li@tech.lgbtL li@tech.lgbt

                    @KitsuneofInari im not sure id say that understanding of code is a boolean function of just either fully understanding everything including any and all bugs that could ever arise, and not understanding it at all, but rather a variable level of some understanding,

                    halla@kde.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #10

                    @Li @KitsuneofInari So... Nobody can really understand code fully, not even the code they have written. Code has become too complex, and there is just too much of it!

                    But if you have thought about what your were writing, if you have recorded your thinking in commit messages and comments.

                    There is a chance you might have a recollection of having created that code when debugging it, ten years later.

                    If you asked Claude to regexp-slop it for you, not chance.

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                    • halla@kde.socialH halla@kde.social

                      @Li @KitsuneofInari So... Nobody can really understand code fully, not even the code they have written. Code has become too complex, and there is just too much of it!

                      But if you have thought about what your were writing, if you have recorded your thinking in commit messages and comments.

                      There is a chance you might have a recollection of having created that code when debugging it, ten years later.

                      If you asked Claude to regexp-slop it for you, not chance.

                      halla@kde.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #11

                      @Li @KitsuneofInari Also, the fun part of writing software is thinking, coding, testing, seeing people use it...

                      Doing code-review, not so much. That's what you do to help other people to level up.

                      But with LLM-generated code, where are the people you want to mentor?

                      But you still have to code-review the swill.

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                      • g1comics@equestria.socialG g1comics@equestria.social

                        @KitsuneofInari I checked and here's the post ♥️ @halla

                        https://krita-artists.org/t/policy-on-llm-code/178248/12

                        lps@mograph.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #12

                        @g1comics @KitsuneofInari @halla bravo krita!!!

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                        • kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.netK kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.net

                          Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!

                          metin@graphics.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #13

                          @KitsuneofInari Nicely worded, @halla ! 👍

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                          • halla@kde.socialH halla@kde.social

                            @Li @KitsuneofInari So... Nobody can really understand code fully, not even the code they have written. Code has become too complex, and there is just too much of it!

                            But if you have thought about what your were writing, if you have recorded your thinking in commit messages and comments.

                            There is a chance you might have a recollection of having created that code when debugging it, ten years later.

                            If you asked Claude to regexp-slop it for you, not chance.

                            moses_izumi@fe.disroot.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #14
                            @halla @Li @KitsuneofInari
                            Hell, sometimes the best software is no software.
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                            • kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.netK kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.net

                              Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!

                              mischievoustomato@tsundere.loveM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #15
                              @KitsuneofInari > that code will be unmaintainable
                              we'll have to see how it goes, ladybird seems to be doing well, and there's a lot of projects that use LLMs already and a number have had issues (seems small, like the vim stuff), but for the rest, it doesn't seem as catastrophic, if at all.
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                              • kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.netK kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.net

                                Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!

                                mohs@climatejustice.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #16

                                @KitsuneofInari thx Krita!

                                I think many fall for a misconception here.
                                The code good developers write is a result of their understanding of the code that already exists and the way they intend to improve it.

                                If that code is generated, it is no longer a testament of somebody understanding what is going on. It becomes a "this feels like it does what I want".

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                                • kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.netK kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.net

                                  Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!

                                  jessebot@social.smallhack.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #17

                                  @KitsuneofInari this is lovely to hear

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                                  • kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.netK kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.net

                                    Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!

                                    xoagray@tiggi.esX This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #18

                                    @KitsuneofInari @gramarye I so wish that more people felt like this.

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                                      #19
                                      @sun @KitsuneofInari brb being creative with other humans *copy-pastes some code from stack overflow*
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                                      • g1comics@equestria.socialG g1comics@equestria.social

                                        @KitsuneofInari I checked and here's the post ♥️ @halla

                                        https://krita-artists.org/t/policy-on-llm-code/178248/12

                                        xenophora@mastodon.artX This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #20

                                        @g1comics @KitsuneofInari @halla

                                        I'm reminded of how many people lost their shit (in a good way) when DeviantArt dumped all their AI on us without permission. Because money, I guess.

                                        I keep hoping to hear that they killed the golden goose with that. Or at least that there's literally no more actual people using the platform and it's all a bunch of wanky janky machines just yipping at each other on into eternity.

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                                        • kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.netK kitsuneofinari@mastodon.sakura-star.net

                                          Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!

                                          fedihacker@masto.esF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #21

                                          @KitsuneofInari Gedit developers too!

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