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Datacenters in space are a terrible, horrible, no good idea.

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  • jodmentum@apobangpo.spaceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Datacenters in space are a terrible, horrible, no good idea.

    “I am a former NASA engineer/scientist with a PhD in space electronics. I also worked at Google for 10 years, in various parts of the company including YouTube and the bit of Cloud responsible for deploying AI capacity, so I'm quite well placed to have an opinion here.
    The short version: this is an absolutely terrible idea, and really makes zero sense whatsoever.” @sundogplanets

    https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horrible-no-good-idea/

    richardnairn@mstdn.caR popio@infosec.exchangeP gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG peterrenshaw@ioc.exchangeP benny@kirche.socialB 10 Replies Last reply
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    • jodmentum@apobangpo.spaceJ jodmentum@apobangpo.space

      Datacenters in space are a terrible, horrible, no good idea.

      “I am a former NASA engineer/scientist with a PhD in space electronics. I also worked at Google for 10 years, in various parts of the company including YouTube and the bit of Cloud responsible for deploying AI capacity, so I'm quite well placed to have an opinion here.
      The short version: this is an absolutely terrible idea, and really makes zero sense whatsoever.” @sundogplanets

      https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horrible-no-good-idea/

      richardnairn@mstdn.caR This user is from outside of this forum
      richardnairn@mstdn.caR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @jodmentum Yes, I can’t imagine how the economics could make sense. One proposed data center for Alberta is looking at 1Gw of power and two million sq feet. How could you construct anything comparable. Heat dissipation component failure and upgrades, bandwidth. What are the advantages of space…

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      • richardnairn@mstdn.caR richardnairn@mstdn.ca

        @jodmentum Yes, I can’t imagine how the economics could make sense. One proposed data center for Alberta is looking at 1Gw of power and two million sq feet. How could you construct anything comparable. Heat dissipation component failure and upgrades, bandwidth. What are the advantages of space…

        c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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        c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io
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        #3

        @RichardNairn @jodmentum Wall-E taught me that “There’s plenty of space out in space.”

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        • jodmentum@apobangpo.spaceJ jodmentum@apobangpo.space

          Datacenters in space are a terrible, horrible, no good idea.

          “I am a former NASA engineer/scientist with a PhD in space electronics. I also worked at Google for 10 years, in various parts of the company including YouTube and the bit of Cloud responsible for deploying AI capacity, so I'm quite well placed to have an opinion here.
          The short version: this is an absolutely terrible idea, and really makes zero sense whatsoever.” @sundogplanets

          https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horrible-no-good-idea/

          popio@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @jodmentum @sundogplanets the worst of tech ideas...

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          • jodmentum@apobangpo.spaceJ jodmentum@apobangpo.space

            Datacenters in space are a terrible, horrible, no good idea.

            “I am a former NASA engineer/scientist with a PhD in space electronics. I also worked at Google for 10 years, in various parts of the company including YouTube and the bit of Cloud responsible for deploying AI capacity, so I'm quite well placed to have an opinion here.
            The short version: this is an absolutely terrible idea, and really makes zero sense whatsoever.” @sundogplanets

            https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horrible-no-good-idea/

            gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @jodmentum @sundogplanets Data Centers in space are literally a grift invented for one sole purpose: Push up the stock of Elon Musk’s IPO for a combined SpaceX, XAI, Tesla.

            It demonstrates of the terrible memetic power a single centibillionaire can wield.

            Our society is not well.

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            • jodmentum@apobangpo.spaceJ jodmentum@apobangpo.space

              Datacenters in space are a terrible, horrible, no good idea.

              “I am a former NASA engineer/scientist with a PhD in space electronics. I also worked at Google for 10 years, in various parts of the company including YouTube and the bit of Cloud responsible for deploying AI capacity, so I'm quite well placed to have an opinion here.
              The short version: this is an absolutely terrible idea, and really makes zero sense whatsoever.” @sundogplanets

              https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horrible-no-good-idea/

              peterrenshaw@ioc.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @jodmentum “A huge, ISS-sized, array could therefore power roughly 200 GPUs”

              I’m surprised nobody is sealing GPUs underwater in the ocean. cc
              @sundogplanets

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              • peterrenshaw@ioc.exchangeP peterrenshaw@ioc.exchange

                @jodmentum “A huge, ISS-sized, array could therefore power roughly 200 GPUs”

                I’m surprised nobody is sealing GPUs underwater in the ocean. cc
                @sundogplanets

                ni_nad@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @peterrenshaw @jodmentum @sundogplanets have you already read about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Natick?

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                • jodmentum@apobangpo.spaceJ jodmentum@apobangpo.space

                  Datacenters in space are a terrible, horrible, no good idea.

                  “I am a former NASA engineer/scientist with a PhD in space electronics. I also worked at Google for 10 years, in various parts of the company including YouTube and the bit of Cloud responsible for deploying AI capacity, so I'm quite well placed to have an opinion here.
                  The short version: this is an absolutely terrible idea, and really makes zero sense whatsoever.” @sundogplanets

                  https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horrible-no-good-idea/

                  benny@kirche.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @sundogplanets @jodmentum if you have money to burn it doesn't matter

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                  • jodmentum@apobangpo.spaceJ jodmentum@apobangpo.space

                    Datacenters in space are a terrible, horrible, no good idea.

                    “I am a former NASA engineer/scientist with a PhD in space electronics. I also worked at Google for 10 years, in various parts of the company including YouTube and the bit of Cloud responsible for deploying AI capacity, so I'm quite well placed to have an opinion here.
                    The short version: this is an absolutely terrible idea, and really makes zero sense whatsoever.” @sundogplanets

                    https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horrible-no-good-idea/

                    error_wtf@chaos.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @jodmentum @sundogplanets What would you consider as a fall back system in very extreme situations like a nuclear war? Is then a bunker system better then in space? Does it even make no sense in rare special cases?

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                    • jodmentum@apobangpo.spaceJ jodmentum@apobangpo.space

                      Datacenters in space are a terrible, horrible, no good idea.

                      “I am a former NASA engineer/scientist with a PhD in space electronics. I also worked at Google for 10 years, in various parts of the company including YouTube and the bit of Cloud responsible for deploying AI capacity, so I'm quite well placed to have an opinion here.
                      The short version: this is an absolutely terrible idea, and really makes zero sense whatsoever.” @sundogplanets

                      https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horrible-no-good-idea/

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                      @jodmentum @sundogplanets

                      You started with a vague statement. Then proceeded to telling us about a totally unrelated Google/NASA, and then ended the post with the same vague statement you started with.

                      In everything you wrote, you didn't mention how it is a terrible thing to do or why you say it is unrealistic

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                      • jodmentum@apobangpo.spaceJ jodmentum@apobangpo.space

                        Datacenters in space are a terrible, horrible, no good idea.

                        “I am a former NASA engineer/scientist with a PhD in space electronics. I also worked at Google for 10 years, in various parts of the company including YouTube and the bit of Cloud responsible for deploying AI capacity, so I'm quite well placed to have an opinion here.
                        The short version: this is an absolutely terrible idea, and really makes zero sense whatsoever.” @sundogplanets

                        https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horrible-no-good-idea/

                        sablebadger@dice.campS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @jodmentum @sundogplanets "but.. but.. musk is a genius! He's smrt an stuf! Buy moar stock! All his ideas are gold!"

                        Just don't look to hard at whose succesful idea it was he stole and drove into the ground, or just how high he was on ketamine when he came with the other not-successful ideas he didn't steal.

                        He stole tesla, and his big contribution was the cybertruck. Space X I think he just got lucky with, and they probably keep him away from anything explosive.

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                          #12

                          @drunkenmadman @RichardNairn @jodmentum

                          It's not, though. Sure, you can't physically raid a satellite in orbit, but you _can_ raid the ground station and subpoena any encryption keys required. Satellites in space are no more outside of national jurisdiction than ships on the high seas are. Musk has a history of ever increasingly harebrained schemes -- any pie-in-the-sky dream he can sell to investors with the promise of unccountable riches at the ens of the rainbow. It's one of those.

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                          • M mistaplanet@mastodon.social

                            @jodmentum @sundogplanets

                            You started with a vague statement. Then proceeded to telling us about a totally unrelated Google/NASA, and then ended the post with the same vague statement you started with.

                            In everything you wrote, you didn't mention how it is a terrible thing to do or why you say it is unrealistic

                            astolk@c.imA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @mistaplanet @jodmentum @sundogplanets

                            Just read it again. Why won't datacenters in space nit wirk? There are issues with power, there are issues with heat management, with data transmission, with vulnerable equipment in a harsh environment. Still don't get it? Read it again.

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                            • jodmentum@apobangpo.spaceJ jodmentum@apobangpo.space

                              Datacenters in space are a terrible, horrible, no good idea.

                              “I am a former NASA engineer/scientist with a PhD in space electronics. I also worked at Google for 10 years, in various parts of the company including YouTube and the bit of Cloud responsible for deploying AI capacity, so I'm quite well placed to have an opinion here.
                              The short version: this is an absolutely terrible idea, and really makes zero sense whatsoever.” @sundogplanets

                              https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horrible-no-good-idea/

                              astolk@c.imA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @jodmentum @sundogplanets

                              There's another big reason this isn't going to work and that's economics. How much does it cost to get stuff up there? Like dollars per rack? I guess you can buy several hundreds of racks, maybe thousands, for the price of getting one into orbit. All other technical problems aside, if it is more expensive on one side, are the benefits on the other side of the ledger like hundred times bigger?

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                              • jodmentum@apobangpo.spaceJ jodmentum@apobangpo.space

                                Datacenters in space are a terrible, horrible, no good idea.

                                “I am a former NASA engineer/scientist with a PhD in space electronics. I also worked at Google for 10 years, in various parts of the company including YouTube and the bit of Cloud responsible for deploying AI capacity, so I'm quite well placed to have an opinion here.
                                The short version: this is an absolutely terrible idea, and really makes zero sense whatsoever.” @sundogplanets

                                https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horrible-no-good-idea/

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                                #15

                                @jodmentum @sundogplanets Elon Musk loves hoaxes that distract from actual solutions. He has no serious intention of actually making this.

                                See Hyperloop, where the only purpose was to distract from trains. We’ve known for at least 12 years that he is a total fraudster.

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                                • astolk@c.imA astolk@c.im

                                  @mistaplanet @jodmentum @sundogplanets

                                  Just read it again. Why won't datacenters in space nit wirk? There are issues with power, there are issues with heat management, with data transmission, with vulnerable equipment in a harsh environment. Still don't get it? Read it again.

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                                  #16

                                  @astolk @jodmentum @sundogplanets

                                  I just read the article now.
                                  Quite brilliant

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