folks, i'm sorry to inform you that justin m. keyes, the primary dev of @neovim absolutely hated the idea of removing an endorsement by a bona fide fascist from the main webpage of the neovim editor.
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@gemelen at this stage i am seriously considering moving to emacs, and you need to understand this: i'm using vim as a primary editor since it was distributed on fred fish' disks with software for amigaos. so, more than thirty two years now.
@mawhrin
I totally understand you, even if my time with *vim* is shorter than that - still, there are principles. -
very obviously, i'm looking for a replacement for @neovim now.
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@mawhrin It is so fucking exhausting having these neo-Nazi pieces of shit infesting every aspect of computing.
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@davidgerard fuck you too
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@davidgerard fuck you too
might I suggest vim-classic.org?
A pre-LLM vim fork, unrelated to neovim, maintained with love by @drew who just demonstrated righteous morality in the form of sourcehut's new LLM policy: https://sourcehut.org/blog/2026-08-27-tos-changes-and-llms/
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vimclassic is a fork of rather old version (8.x), for newer feature it might also be worth looking into evi (that forked from 9.1)
This makes me glad I avoid vimisms like the plague. I can live inside nvi happily enough. Really, the only thing I'm hooked on from the vim family is the undo behaviour, and I could retrain myself easily enough given that I only came to vim after years of other vi.
I'm regularly helping my students unlearn "go into insert mode to delete things". And they want to make this change as soon as they realize how much extra work they're doing.
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RE: https://circumstances.run/@mawhrin/117167466758241828
folks, i'm sorry to inform you that justin m. keyes, the primary dev of @neovim absolutely hated the idea of removing an endorsement by a bona fide fascist from the main webpage of the neovim editor.
what happened: i've opened a ticket asking to remove the heinemeier hansson quote; keyes responded to the ticket a few times, first with simply “don't care”, then with more angry elucidation, then closed as not planned, and finally the issue was removed altogether.
unfortunately i have only mail receipts, which missed the rage part of the episode.
added: another core maintainer of neovim, tj de vries, is scheduled to speak during dhh's omacon. well.
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@zzt sure is.
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> heinemeier hansson
Took me a second to figure out who this was because I "programmed" myself that DHH is David Heinrich Himmler and I can't unlearn it for some reason
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RE: https://circumstances.run/@mawhrin/117167466758241828
folks, i'm sorry to inform you that justin m. keyes, the primary dev of @neovim absolutely hated the idea of removing an endorsement by a bona fide fascist from the main webpage of the neovim editor.
what happened: i've opened a ticket asking to remove the heinemeier hansson quote; keyes responded to the ticket a few times, first with simply “don't care”, then with more angry elucidation, then closed as not planned, and finally the issue was removed altogether.
unfortunately i have only mail receipts, which missed the rage part of the episode.
added: another core maintainer of neovim, tj de vries, is scheduled to speak during dhh's omacon. well.
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vimclassic is a fork of rather old version (8.x), for newer feature it might also be worth looking into evi (that forked from 9.1)
@oblomov @martin @mawhrin I've been happy with vim-classic fwiw, though it's not my primary editor either way these days. Not sure if vim9 (and thus evi) added anything that I personally care about, but obviously YMMV.
(I think maybe they're also backporting some newer changes, but probably only bugfixes rather than features.)
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