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  • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

    People who are disabled, poor or on fixed incomes should be allowed nice things.

    Society acts as though anyone receiving assistance should be forced to make do with the bare minimum ALL the time.

    It’s suffering as a policy choice.

    It’s cruel and unnecessary.

    edgeofeurope@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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    #2

    @broadwaybabyto Dutch law does not allow parents to gift groceries to children if these children live on social security.
    If they do, the social security income can be demanded back (which of course nobody can do because you need every fucking cent of it to survive).
    Otherwise, the Netherlands is known as a tax haven (which the government denies). Companies can get away with just about anything.

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    • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

      People who are disabled, poor or on fixed incomes should be allowed nice things.

      Society acts as though anyone receiving assistance should be forced to make do with the bare minimum ALL the time.

      It’s suffering as a policy choice.

      It’s cruel and unnecessary.

      earthshine@masto.hackers.townE This user is from outside of this forum
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      #3

      @broadwaybabyto They'd regulate away their right to experience happiness of their own accord if they could.

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      • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

        People who are disabled, poor or on fixed incomes should be allowed nice things.

        Society acts as though anyone receiving assistance should be forced to make do with the bare minimum ALL the time.

        It’s suffering as a policy choice.

        It’s cruel and unnecessary.

        gabbywheels@toad.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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        #4

        @broadwaybabyto

        How else can you feel superior? /s

        I grew up in foster homes. Same. So much cruelty is small people trying to make themselves feel bigger by punching down. Right now in the USA we have an entrenched administration cheering their worst impluses on.

        Hugs.

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        • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

          People who are disabled, poor or on fixed incomes should be allowed nice things.

          Society acts as though anyone receiving assistance should be forced to make do with the bare minimum ALL the time.

          It’s suffering as a policy choice.

          It’s cruel and unnecessary.

          petesmom@kolektiva.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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          #5

          @broadwaybabyto
          Even necessities. People in US still ask why an unhoused person needs the "luxury" of a cell phone 🤦‍♀️

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          • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

            People who are disabled, poor or on fixed incomes should be allowed nice things.

            Society acts as though anyone receiving assistance should be forced to make do with the bare minimum ALL the time.

            It’s suffering as a policy choice.

            It’s cruel and unnecessary.

            vampyre@transfem.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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            #6

            @broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca As a disabled person, this is so true.

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            • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

              People who are disabled, poor or on fixed incomes should be allowed nice things.

              Society acts as though anyone receiving assistance should be forced to make do with the bare minimum ALL the time.

              It’s suffering as a policy choice.

              It’s cruel and unnecessary.

              scienceisnotopinions@mstdn.caS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #7

              @broadwaybabyto I went through this when I received student loans. There were actaully folks at the university I went to who made comments like, "must be nice to be able to afford that."😩

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              • scienceisnotopinions@mstdn.caS scienceisnotopinions@mstdn.ca

                @broadwaybabyto I went through this when I received student loans. There were actaully folks at the university I went to who made comments like, "must be nice to be able to afford that."😩

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                #8

                @broadwaybabyto And, they weren't students. This came from the staff.

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                • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

                  People who are disabled, poor or on fixed incomes should be allowed nice things.

                  Society acts as though anyone receiving assistance should be forced to make do with the bare minimum ALL the time.

                  It’s suffering as a policy choice.

                  It’s cruel and unnecessary.

                  bel_tamtu@meemu.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #9

                  @broadwaybabyto As someone on disability I wholeheartedly agree.

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                  • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

                    People who are disabled, poor or on fixed incomes should be allowed nice things.

                    Society acts as though anyone receiving assistance should be forced to make do with the bare minimum ALL the time.

                    It’s suffering as a policy choice.

                    It’s cruel and unnecessary.

                    fluffy@plush.cityF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #10

                    @broadwaybabyto I want to scream every time someone mentions the "nice cellphone" that a homeless person has, as if the $150 they spent on the cheapest smartphone they could find would have made them not homeless if spent on rent instead

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                    • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

                      People who are disabled, poor or on fixed incomes should be allowed nice things.

                      Society acts as though anyone receiving assistance should be forced to make do with the bare minimum ALL the time.

                      It’s suffering as a policy choice.

                      It’s cruel and unnecessary.

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                      #11

                      @broadwaybabyto Yes and its absolutely wrong. Many people don't have the ability to choose to be in those situations, doesn't mean they should be made to feel bad about that fact.

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                      • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

                        People who are disabled, poor or on fixed incomes should be allowed nice things.

                        Society acts as though anyone receiving assistance should be forced to make do with the bare minimum ALL the time.

                        It’s suffering as a policy choice.

                        It’s cruel and unnecessary.

                        kevinashworth@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #12

                        @broadwaybabyto
                        Yes. The people who receive the biggest payments are the ones who merit any scrutiny. For every dollar a fixed-income person gets there’s thousands and thousands of dollars going to Musk or Tom Steyer or many others. All basic social services are affordable and super cheap in comparison.

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                        • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

                          People who are disabled, poor or on fixed incomes should be allowed nice things.

                          Society acts as though anyone receiving assistance should be forced to make do with the bare minimum ALL the time.

                          It’s suffering as a policy choice.

                          It’s cruel and unnecessary.

                          jigmedatse@social.openpsychology.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #13

                          @broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca What are we being punished for?

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                          • edgeofeurope@mastodon.socialE edgeofeurope@mastodon.social

                            @broadwaybabyto Dutch law does not allow parents to gift groceries to children if these children live on social security.
                            If they do, the social security income can be demanded back (which of course nobody can do because you need every fucking cent of it to survive).
                            Otherwise, the Netherlands is known as a tax haven (which the government denies). Companies can get away with just about anything.

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                            #14

                            @edgeofeurope @broadwaybabyto I once gave a very nice skirt that I'd bought the wrong size to my cousin who was living on social security (in NL). She made the mistake to wear it to the periodic interview and they docked her 25 guilders. (I also gave her the 25 guilders, of course. I had a (minimum wage) job at the time.)

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                            • fluffy@plush.cityF fluffy@plush.city

                              @broadwaybabyto I want to scream every time someone mentions the "nice cellphone" that a homeless person has, as if the $150 they spent on the cheapest smartphone they could find would have made them not homeless if spent on rent instead

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                              #15

                              @fluffy @broadwaybabyto I remember such comments being made about single parents on low incomes in the UK in the 1980s owning VHS players.

                              In terms of providing entertainment/distraction for your children the economics of a video player (whether bought honestly or "second hand") were hard to beat.

                              A trip to the cinema was out of the reach of many people. Videos could either be rented, copied or swapped which gave such families access to new films that they would otherwise not have had.

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                              • irina@wandering.shopI irina@wandering.shop

                                @edgeofeurope @broadwaybabyto I once gave a very nice skirt that I'd bought the wrong size to my cousin who was living on social security (in NL). She made the mistake to wear it to the periodic interview and they docked her 25 guilders. (I also gave her the 25 guilders, of course. I had a (minimum wage) job at the time.)

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                                #16

                                @irina @edgeofeurope @broadwaybabyto It is the clawing back of funds, which I class as a "cruel and unusual punishment" that I find most odious.

                                Let people "get ahead" legally.

                                Don't dock the crumbs that people manage to get from elsewhere on a 1:1 ratio.

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                                • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

                                  People who are disabled, poor or on fixed incomes should be allowed nice things.

                                  Society acts as though anyone receiving assistance should be forced to make do with the bare minimum ALL the time.

                                  It’s suffering as a policy choice.

                                  It’s cruel and unnecessary.

                                  nina_cried@mastodonapp.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #17

                                  @broadwaybabyto

                                  People who struggled for every penny years ago, and worked their way up to a comfortable position now, are uncomfortable seeing other people given the things they were struggling for.

                                  They don't see the opportunities they had then that few people are giving out nowadays.

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                                  • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

                                    People who are disabled, poor or on fixed incomes should be allowed nice things.

                                    Society acts as though anyone receiving assistance should be forced to make do with the bare minimum ALL the time.

                                    It’s suffering as a policy choice.

                                    It’s cruel and unnecessary.

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                                    #18

                                    @broadwaybabyto

                                    They're just bullies: cruelty is their purpose.

                                    The best proof of this is that policy makers on that particular bandwagon are happily taking away nice things that are objectively free, or even negative cost to society. E.g. affordable housing.

                                    Voting for bullies is stupid, or evil (usually both).

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                                    • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

                                      People who are disabled, poor or on fixed incomes should be allowed nice things.

                                      Society acts as though anyone receiving assistance should be forced to make do with the bare minimum ALL the time.

                                      It’s suffering as a policy choice.

                                      It’s cruel and unnecessary.

                                      sylocule@cyberplace.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #19

                                      @broadwaybabyto @ChrisMayLA6 The reality is that poverty (and most homelessness) is government ‘policy’.

                                      Considering Norway has eliminated homelessness through policy to help the less fortunate, all other G20 governments should hang their heads in shame

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                                      • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

                                        People who are disabled, poor or on fixed incomes should be allowed nice things.

                                        Society acts as though anyone receiving assistance should be forced to make do with the bare minimum ALL the time.

                                        It’s suffering as a policy choice.

                                        It’s cruel and unnecessary.

                                        scotintraining@mastodon.scotS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #20

                                        @broadwaybabyto the persecution of the poor is interesting, as there is a viewpoint that the poor have done something to deserve it.

                                        This is despite 2 truths
                                        1 society is rigged against the poor- paying more than the rich for the same things
                                        2 the same factor thst makes people poor is the same factor that makes people rich- luck

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                                        • sylocule@cyberplace.socialS sylocule@cyberplace.social

                                          @broadwaybabyto @ChrisMayLA6 The reality is that poverty (and most homelessness) is government ‘policy’.

                                          Considering Norway has eliminated homelessness through policy to help the less fortunate, all other G20 governments should hang their heads in shame

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                                          #21

                                          @Sylocule @broadwaybabyto

                                          Agreed....

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