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  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

    @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @jaredwhite @tante I also just add a little assertion that one other thing I hate about this moment of "AI" is that the field of "AI" has had many interesting branches in it, and now we only talk about one (machine learning models) and I am deeply bitter about that.

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    #83

    @cwebber @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @jaredwhite @tante i've found myself moving back to using data science, ml, and algorithmic because ai functionally means llm-as-a-service at this point

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    • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

      @_elena @trezzer

      The #NoAI tag is common enough that it's a good candidate for setting up a filter to turn any post with that tag into a CW post.

      I'm a fan of standard tags instead of CWs for things that are not violent or sexual but a decent sized group would want to hide since they give people the power to control their own timelines more effectively.

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      #84

      @gbargoud

      Same!
      I also use content warnings when I answer to a 'puzzle' to not give away the answer 😀

      And then: as a teacher of Adobe software, I usually start the first classes with 'We won't be using AI, what's more: I will show you how to hide all their AI options. You can make them visible again once you have enough skills and knowledge to evaluate their results. You need to learn how to do it first, before you let AI do this automatically."

      Teaching people skills: 💗

      @_elena @trezzer

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        @anildash you 1000% belong to my list Anil ! And thanks @Standard_Phil for the suggestion

        FYI Anil if you don't know @jaredwhite he has a superb podcast titled Vibe Coded ("about the perils & pitfalls of creative intellectual automation; and why the future of good Internet vibes is for the humans, by the humans") : https://jaredwhite.com/projects/

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        #85

        @_elena

        Yes, @anildash belongs on the list 😊

        @Standard_Phil @jaredwhite

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        • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

          @_elena @trezzer

          The #NoAI tag is common enough that it's a good candidate for setting up a filter to turn any post with that tag into a CW post.

          I'm a fan of standard tags instead of CWs for things that are not violent or sexual but a decent sized group would want to hide since they give people the power to control their own timelines more effectively.

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          #86

          @gbargoud @_elena @trezzer I agree with organizing the conversation around a hashtag, such as #NoAI or #AISlop. This can be more natural than hiding it behind a CW. For many instances CW is for violence and sexual topics, not for defending our rights.

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            Dear Fedi friends,

            I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

            Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

            Do you have any recommendations?

            So far, at the top of my list I have:

            @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

            plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

            Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

            gonzalo@neopaquita.esG This user is from outside of this forum
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            #87

            @_elena some great accounts(mainly in Spanish) are @tunubesecamirio @criticalswitch @arteesetica @ana_valdi

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              Dear Fedi friends,

              I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

              Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

              Do you have any recommendations?

              So far, at the top of my list I have:

              @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

              plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

              Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

              nenon@masto.euroburners.euN This user is from outside of this forum
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              #88

              @susankayequinn

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                @DataKnightmare thanks! putting you both on my list 🙏

                P.S.: your SUPERB podcast is really my favorite these days... I wish everyone spoke Italian so they could enjoy it 🥲

                @davidgerard

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                #89

                @_elena

                There are many non celebrities (i.e ordinary folk without podcasts or books to promote) contributing to this discussion, probably disproportionately on Mastodon.

                I started a #trojan_ai tag to locate examples of duplicitous AI promotion you can review as part of your enquiries.

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                • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                  @_elena Film idea: "Back to the roots". They meet in secret. In coding dojos. They write code by hand. They have ancient books, real books, printed, with names like "Assembly Guide for the x86 ISA", "High Performance Python" that are sacred bibles of ancient knowledge. Follow our hero as she goes from LLM withdrawal to changing the world with hand-written code that frees the minds of millions. @jan

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                  #90

                  @jwildeboer @_elena @jan Hackers 2: Hack the Planet Again

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                  • 707kat@mastodon.art7 707kat@mastodon.art

                    @onepunchmango I'm aware of what the EFF do. I'm not saying they don't do a lot of good. However, they are not against LLMs and up until recently they were positive about its usage. Even though the technology inherently relies on voiding people's privacy. For the longest time they cheered on it as a way to beat Copyright and boost free information, ignoring people who tried to explain why it would be damaging.

                    Try taking a look at how this page has changed this month:
                    https://web.archive.org/web/20260000000000*/https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/effs-policy-llm-assisted-contributions-our-open-source-projects

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                    #91

                    @707Kat thank you for educating me. I still think they are important to the discussion (hence I wrote they do a lot of good work in the original post). But I will specify further to reflect this thread.

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      Dear Fedi friends,

                      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                      Do you have any recommendations?

                      So far, at the top of my list I have:

                      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                      alexadeswift@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #92

                      @_elena

                      I do not necessarily actively campaign against AI, but I absolutely DO call it out when I see overt examples of it. I just wish I can think of others who do ...

                      @timnitGebru@dair-community.social @emilymbender@dair-community.social @alexhanna @DAIR@dair-community.social @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        Dear Fedi friends,

                        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                        Do you have any recommendations?

                        So far, at the top of my list I have:

                        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                        mediocratese@climatejustice.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #93

                        @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante There are so many reasons AI is the worst thing ever conceived. I am over flowing with dread.

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          Dear Fedi friends,

                          I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                          Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                          Do you have any recommendations?

                          So far, at the top of my list I have:

                          @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                          plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                          Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

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                          #94

                          @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I'd like to recommend @pivot-to-ai.com pivot to ai and is incomparable author, @davidgerard

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            Dear Fedi friends,

                            I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                            Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                            Do you have any recommendations?

                            So far, at the top of my list I have:

                            @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                            plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                            Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                            groupnebula563@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #95

                            @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante not sure if this counts, but I am adamantly #NoAI! all of my videos on @groupnebula563@cuddly.tube are proudly AI-free and my https://hit-counter.net project won’t provide counters to sites containing AI content! 🙂

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              Dear Fedi friends,

                              I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                              Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                              Do you have any recommendations?

                              So far, at the top of my list I have:

                              @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                              plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                              Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                              koantig@mamot.frK This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #96

                              @_elena

                              Also @danmcquillan of course.
                              @techtakes (a Lemmy instance)

                              @alineblankertz ,
                              @flomaraninchi , @Khrys

                              (And my bio makes it clear what side I'm on)

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                              • onepunchmango@radikal.socialO onepunchmango@radikal.social

                                @707Kat thank you for educating me. I still think they are important to the discussion (hence I wrote they do a lot of good work in the original post). But I will specify further to reflect this thread.

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                                #97

                                @onepunchmango Definitely they do. I follow them myself on other platforms than this one. (haven't gotten around to it here)

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                                • nenon@masto.euroburners.euN nenon@masto.euroburners.eu

                                  @susankayequinn

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                                  #98

                                  @nenon thanks for the tag!
                                  @_elena I am fully on board with supporting those resisting AI (you've got a great list going!). I'm not a reporter or academic but I am a solarpunk writer, and AI has no place in a solarpunk future. 🔨

                                  https://brightgreenfutures.substack.com/p/solarpunk-dont-need-no-ai

                                  (I wish @bcmerchant.bsky.social were on Masto, but I highly recommend subscribing to his newsletter and of course his book BLOOD IN THE MACHINE)

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    Dear Fedi friends,

                                    I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                    Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                    Do you have any recommendations?

                                    So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                    @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                    plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                    Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                    707kat@mastodon.art7 This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #99

                                    @_elena @anthony is a must as well. https://anthonymoser.github.io/writing/ai/haterdom/2025/08/26/i-am-an-ai-hater.html

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                                    • 707kat@mastodon.art7 707kat@mastodon.art

                                      @_elena @anthony is a must as well. https://anthonymoser.github.io/writing/ai/haterdom/2025/08/26/i-am-an-ai-hater.html

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                                      #100

                                      @_elena And @Gargron has been very outspoken about LLMs too. https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/116207239929253738

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        Dear Fedi friends,

                                        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                        Do you have any recommendations?

                                        So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                        sknob@mamot.frS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #101

                                        @_elena in French, there’s the formidable @flomaraninchi !

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          @DataKnightmare thanks! putting you both on my list 🙏

                                          P.S.: your SUPERB podcast is really my favorite these days... I wish everyone spoke Italian so they could enjoy it 🥲

                                          @davidgerard

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                                          #102

                                          @_elena

                                          too kind! I did start an English version years ago, when the Big Thing was still techbros being techbros, but I had to suspend after just a few episodes, the production effort is not manageable. I keep wanting to return to it, though, in one form or another (mabe just publish the English script), especially when I touch a topic that is passing unnoticed.

                                          Wait, I'm forgetting! I could *use AI* and have automated translations in 5 billion languages!
                                          Or, like, not.

                                          @davidgerard

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