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  3. I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop.

I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop.

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  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

    I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop. Please.

    Should you use alt-text? Yes!

    Should you boost posts without alt-text? No!

    Should you yell at companies and bots who don't use alt-text? Fuck yeah!

    Should you try your best to make Fedi a more accessible, and safe place for everyone—including those who have trouble writing alt-text? Of course.

    Should you mention @altbot or #Alt4Me *occasionally* so folx know they're both wonderful tools that can help make Fedi a more inclusive place? It would be impolite not to.

    But—and let me make this clear—don't be a dick to folx who forget alt-text, or who have trouble writing it for whatever reason; it's not very punk of you.

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    #3

    @alice @altbot
    Want to increase accessibility? Reply to the toot with the text-less image with alt text for that image. There. You made that image accessible without being a dick. You did it. You made an example of yourself. You made things better. Yourself.

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    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

      I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop. Please.

      Should you use alt-text? Yes!

      Should you boost posts without alt-text? No!

      Should you yell at companies and bots who don't use alt-text? Fuck yeah!

      Should you try your best to make Fedi a more accessible, and safe place for everyone—including those who have trouble writing alt-text? Of course.

      Should you mention @altbot or #Alt4Me *occasionally* so folx know they're both wonderful tools that can help make Fedi a more inclusive place? It would be impolite not to.

      But—and let me make this clear—don't be a dick to folx who forget alt-text, or who have trouble writing it for whatever reason; it's not very punk of you.

      mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #4

      @alice @altbot

      Basically telling other people how they should be using Mastodon is not cool unless they are violating some instance rule.

      You always have the option of muting them or blocking them so you don't have to endure whatever offense you perceive they are perpetrating.

      Now, fully realize telling people not to tell people how to use Mastodon is kind of telling people how to use Mastodon. So it's a conundrum, but generally agree with Alice. Please don't be a Mastodon HOA enforcer.

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      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

        I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop. Please.

        Should you use alt-text? Yes!

        Should you boost posts without alt-text? No!

        Should you yell at companies and bots who don't use alt-text? Fuck yeah!

        Should you try your best to make Fedi a more accessible, and safe place for everyone—including those who have trouble writing alt-text? Of course.

        Should you mention @altbot or #Alt4Me *occasionally* so folx know they're both wonderful tools that can help make Fedi a more inclusive place? It would be impolite not to.

        But—and let me make this clear—don't be a dick to folx who forget alt-text, or who have trouble writing it for whatever reason; it's not very punk of you.

        keremgoart@mstdn.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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        #5

        @alice @altbot THANK YOU VERY MUCH 🙌

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        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

          I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop. Please.

          Should you use alt-text? Yes!

          Should you boost posts without alt-text? No!

          Should you yell at companies and bots who don't use alt-text? Fuck yeah!

          Should you try your best to make Fedi a more accessible, and safe place for everyone—including those who have trouble writing alt-text? Of course.

          Should you mention @altbot or #Alt4Me *occasionally* so folx know they're both wonderful tools that can help make Fedi a more inclusive place? It would be impolite not to.

          But—and let me make this clear—don't be a dick to folx who forget alt-text, or who have trouble writing it for whatever reason; it's not very punk of you.

          benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #6

          @alice @altbot

          thank you

          there are voices on the fediverse that speak with rank entitlement

          they believe they can approach someone, treat them poorly, and get something out of them

          no

          you act nicely, you act kind, you say thank you

          and you may change their behavior

          you also may not

          but if you treat someone poorly, you definitely won't change their behavior

          some of you out there:

          think about where this massive sense of entitlement you have comes from

          and fix it

          please and thank you

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          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

            I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop. Please.

            Should you use alt-text? Yes!

            Should you boost posts without alt-text? No!

            Should you yell at companies and bots who don't use alt-text? Fuck yeah!

            Should you try your best to make Fedi a more accessible, and safe place for everyone—including those who have trouble writing alt-text? Of course.

            Should you mention @altbot or #Alt4Me *occasionally* so folx know they're both wonderful tools that can help make Fedi a more inclusive place? It would be impolite not to.

            But—and let me make this clear—don't be a dick to folx who forget alt-text, or who have trouble writing it for whatever reason; it's not very punk of you.

            mikal@sfba.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #7

            @alice @altbot

            Even if you're not the target of a scold, seeing someone scolding others is an icky vibe.

            I think we've all seen someone adding alt text as a comment in a way that instead of feeling friendly and helpful, feels passive-aggressive. At the same time, some people might take offense unnecessarily, even when none is intended. I think in general adding alt text to someone else's image without being asked it's an okay practice, but has to be done very carefully.

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @alice @altbot

              thank you

              there are voices on the fediverse that speak with rank entitlement

              they believe they can approach someone, treat them poorly, and get something out of them

              no

              you act nicely, you act kind, you say thank you

              and you may change their behavior

              you also may not

              but if you treat someone poorly, you definitely won't change their behavior

              some of you out there:

              think about where this massive sense of entitlement you have comes from

              and fix it

              please and thank you

              alexadeswift@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #8

              @benroyce

              I have only ever done this once, and even then I didn't yell. A Tooter asked for their toot to be boosted, however the image didn't have alt text and my reply was that I would love to boost the toot, however, without alt text I couldn't and then explained about screen readers etc.

              The Tooter put alt text on and I boosted!

              All the others who just post without alt text? Likes and replies only.

              @alice @altbot

              benroyce@mastodon.socialB h3mmy@lgbtqia.spaceH 2 Replies Last reply
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              • alexadeswift@lgbtqia.spaceA alexadeswift@lgbtqia.space

                @benroyce

                I have only ever done this once, and even then I didn't yell. A Tooter asked for their toot to be boosted, however the image didn't have alt text and my reply was that I would love to boost the toot, however, without alt text I couldn't and then explained about screen readers etc.

                The Tooter put alt text on and I boosted!

                All the others who just post without alt text? Likes and replies only.

                @alice @altbot

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                #9

                @alexadeswift @alice @altbot

                that's the way to do it! 💪 😤

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @alexadeswift @alice @altbot

                  that's the way to do it! 💪 😤

                  alexadeswift@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #10

                  @benroyce

                  I try my best, unfortunately autism sometimes can get in the way and make me act like an arsehole though! 😬😈

                  @alice @altbot

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                  • alexadeswift@lgbtqia.spaceA alexadeswift@lgbtqia.space

                    @benroyce

                    I try my best, unfortunately autism sometimes can get in the way and make me act like an arsehole though! 😬😈

                    @alice @altbot

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                    #11

                    @alexadeswift @alice @altbot

                    you have nothing to explain to me. i can be a major asshole 😂

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                    • mikal@sfba.socialM mikal@sfba.social

                      @alice @altbot

                      Even if you're not the target of a scold, seeing someone scolding others is an icky vibe.

                      I think we've all seen someone adding alt text as a comment in a way that instead of feeling friendly and helpful, feels passive-aggressive. At the same time, some people might take offense unnecessarily, even when none is intended. I think in general adding alt text to someone else's image without being asked it's an okay practice, but has to be done very carefully.

                      alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #12

                      @Mikal yeah, good rule of thumb is to try to be helpful, not haughty.

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                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                        I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop. Please.

                        Should you use alt-text? Yes!

                        Should you boost posts without alt-text? No!

                        Should you yell at companies and bots who don't use alt-text? Fuck yeah!

                        Should you try your best to make Fedi a more accessible, and safe place for everyone—including those who have trouble writing alt-text? Of course.

                        Should you mention @altbot or #Alt4Me *occasionally* so folx know they're both wonderful tools that can help make Fedi a more inclusive place? It would be impolite not to.

                        But—and let me make this clear—don't be a dick to folx who forget alt-text, or who have trouble writing it for whatever reason; it's not very punk of you.

                        rayotron@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #13

                        @alice @altbot

                        It's been pointed out a couple of times that I'd forgotten to add alt-text. I fixed it and appreciated that it had been brought to my attention. One person who corrected me was visually impaired and had every right to.

                        Those people were polite and I feel they were right for letting me know. That being said, I have seen snarky alt-text nazis and they really do suck.

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @alexadeswift @alice @altbot

                          you have nothing to explain to me. i can be a major asshole 😂

                          alexadeswift@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #14

                          @benroyce

                          Major Arsehole and Big Shit goes together like Peaches & Cream, and can be very cathartic when targeted with surgical precision!

                          @alice @altbot

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                          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                            I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop. Please.

                            Should you use alt-text? Yes!

                            Should you boost posts without alt-text? No!

                            Should you yell at companies and bots who don't use alt-text? Fuck yeah!

                            Should you try your best to make Fedi a more accessible, and safe place for everyone—including those who have trouble writing alt-text? Of course.

                            Should you mention @altbot or #Alt4Me *occasionally* so folx know they're both wonderful tools that can help make Fedi a more inclusive place? It would be impolite not to.

                            But—and let me make this clear—don't be a dick to folx who forget alt-text, or who have trouble writing it for whatever reason; it's not very punk of you.

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                            #15

                            @alice @altbot May I offer you a feature request in these trying times?
                            https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/26464

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                            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                              I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop. Please.

                              Should you use alt-text? Yes!

                              Should you boost posts without alt-text? No!

                              Should you yell at companies and bots who don't use alt-text? Fuck yeah!

                              Should you try your best to make Fedi a more accessible, and safe place for everyone—including those who have trouble writing alt-text? Of course.

                              Should you mention @altbot or #Alt4Me *occasionally* so folx know they're both wonderful tools that can help make Fedi a more inclusive place? It would be impolite not to.

                              But—and let me make this clear—don't be a dick to folx who forget alt-text, or who have trouble writing it for whatever reason; it's not very punk of you.

                              nilz@norden.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #16

                              @alice @altbot@fuzzies.wtf

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @alexadeswift @alice @altbot

                                you have nothing to explain to me. i can be a major asshole 😂

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                                #17

                                @benroyce @alexadeswift ah Fedi, bringing unintentional assholes together since 2016 🥰

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                                • alexadeswift@lgbtqia.spaceA alexadeswift@lgbtqia.space

                                  @benroyce

                                  I have only ever done this once, and even then I didn't yell. A Tooter asked for their toot to be boosted, however the image didn't have alt text and my reply was that I would love to boost the toot, however, without alt text I couldn't and then explained about screen readers etc.

                                  The Tooter put alt text on and I boosted!

                                  All the others who just post without alt text? Likes and replies only.

                                  @alice @altbot

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                                  #18

                                  @alexadeswift
                                  I occasionally come across posts without any text that I would love to boost, and so I take this approach. Because it's true that I would love to boost it but I won't if there's no alt text.

                                  I'm often not the only one. And sometimes there will be a commenter that maybe even made an attempt to supply the original poster with alt text. It's generally been quite effective (except in maybe two cases I'm aware of)

                                  I'm only mean or degrading to people when they've explicitly asked for it (usually in a kink context).
                                  @benroyce @alice @altbot

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                                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                    @benroyce @alexadeswift ah Fedi, bringing unintentional assholes together since 2016 🥰

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                                    #19

                                    @alice

                                    So so true 🤩

                                    @benroyce

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                                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                      I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop. Please.

                                      Should you use alt-text? Yes!

                                      Should you boost posts without alt-text? No!

                                      Should you yell at companies and bots who don't use alt-text? Fuck yeah!

                                      Should you try your best to make Fedi a more accessible, and safe place for everyone—including those who have trouble writing alt-text? Of course.

                                      Should you mention @altbot or #Alt4Me *occasionally* so folx know they're both wonderful tools that can help make Fedi a more inclusive place? It would be impolite not to.

                                      But—and let me make this clear—don't be a dick to folx who forget alt-text, or who have trouble writing it for whatever reason; it's not very punk of you.

                                      mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #20

                                      @altbot @alice altbot is AI slop and makes things worse for everyone.

                                      Aye to the rest. alt4me is great.

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                                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                        @benroyce @alexadeswift ah Fedi, bringing unintentional assholes together since 2016 🥰

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                                        #21

                                        @alice @benroyce @alexadeswift hm? I heard my name?

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                                        • alexadeswift@lgbtqia.spaceA alexadeswift@lgbtqia.space

                                          @benroyce

                                          Major Arsehole and Big Shit goes together like Peaches & Cream, and can be very cathartic when targeted with surgical precision!

                                          @alice @altbot

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                                          #22

                                          @alexadeswift @alice @altbot

                                          the trick is knowing when to apply which

                                          i've been guilty of delivering the vinegar when a little honey would be more effective, and vice versa

                                          we learn to know which is better, but it's an art not a science

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