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  3. Knowingly using a piece of software that *BY DESIGN* fabricates text is not "hallucination" - it is fraud.

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  • ketan@climatejustice.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Knowingly using a piece of software that *BY DESIGN* fabricates text is not "hallucination" - it is fraud. I'd be prosecuted if I sat down and invented references for submissions in a court case. I'd lose my job as an academic if I did the same for a paper. Someone explain why automating fraud has somehow made it completely fine and consequence-free?

    The very tiny remaining few of us who still give a crap about "not lying" need to fight to bring back real consequences for fraud, fabrication

    anne_canada@mstdn.caA justinh@twit.socialJ B jef@mastodon.socialJ ralph@hear-me.socialR 9 Replies Last reply
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    • ketan@climatejustice.socialK ketan@climatejustice.social

      Knowingly using a piece of software that *BY DESIGN* fabricates text is not "hallucination" - it is fraud. I'd be prosecuted if I sat down and invented references for submissions in a court case. I'd lose my job as an academic if I did the same for a paper. Someone explain why automating fraud has somehow made it completely fine and consequence-free?

      The very tiny remaining few of us who still give a crap about "not lying" need to fight to bring back real consequences for fraud, fabrication

      anne_canada@mstdn.caA This user is from outside of this forum
      anne_canada@mstdn.caA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @ketan , its scientific literature. Check references before relying on them.

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      • ketan@climatejustice.socialK ketan@climatejustice.social

        Knowingly using a piece of software that *BY DESIGN* fabricates text is not "hallucination" - it is fraud. I'd be prosecuted if I sat down and invented references for submissions in a court case. I'd lose my job as an academic if I did the same for a paper. Someone explain why automating fraud has somehow made it completely fine and consequence-free?

        The very tiny remaining few of us who still give a crap about "not lying" need to fight to bring back real consequences for fraud, fabrication

        justinh@twit.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
        justinh@twit.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @ketan If you think about it, "making fraud consequence-free" is really the only viable commercial use for LLMs.

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        • ketan@climatejustice.socialK ketan@climatejustice.social

          Knowingly using a piece of software that *BY DESIGN* fabricates text is not "hallucination" - it is fraud. I'd be prosecuted if I sat down and invented references for submissions in a court case. I'd lose my job as an academic if I did the same for a paper. Someone explain why automating fraud has somehow made it completely fine and consequence-free?

          The very tiny remaining few of us who still give a crap about "not lying" need to fight to bring back real consequences for fraud, fabrication

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          bart_amsterdam@mastodon.social
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          @ketan Well, quite a few people have lost their jobs publishing fabricated texts. And rightly so.

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          • ketan@climatejustice.socialK ketan@climatejustice.social

            Knowingly using a piece of software that *BY DESIGN* fabricates text is not "hallucination" - it is fraud. I'd be prosecuted if I sat down and invented references for submissions in a court case. I'd lose my job as an academic if I did the same for a paper. Someone explain why automating fraud has somehow made it completely fine and consequence-free?

            The very tiny remaining few of us who still give a crap about "not lying" need to fight to bring back real consequences for fraud, fabrication

            jef@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            @ketan Maybe the companies selling these nonsense generators could be prosecuted for conspiracy to commit fraud.

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            • ketan@climatejustice.socialK ketan@climatejustice.social

              Knowingly using a piece of software that *BY DESIGN* fabricates text is not "hallucination" - it is fraud. I'd be prosecuted if I sat down and invented references for submissions in a court case. I'd lose my job as an academic if I did the same for a paper. Someone explain why automating fraud has somehow made it completely fine and consequence-free?

              The very tiny remaining few of us who still give a crap about "not lying" need to fight to bring back real consequences for fraud, fabrication

              ralph@hear-me.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @ketan

              #alttext

              Three images:
              #1
              FINANCIAL TIMES
              Elite law firm Sullivan & Cromwell admits to Al 'hallucinations'
              Firm whose partners bill more than $2,000 per hour apologizes to judge for software-driven errors in bankruptcy case
              #2
              Sujeet Indap and Kaye Wiggins in New York
              Published YESTERDAY
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              Sullivan & Cromwell told a US federal bankruptcy court that a major filing it made in a high-profile case contained multiple "hallucinations" made by AI software.
              Andrew Dietderich, the head of S&C's restructuring practice, apologized in a letter to New York federal judge Martin Glenn on Saturday for mistakes that included misquoting the US bankruptcy code and citing cases incorrectly in a court filing made on April 9.
              "We deeply regret that this has occurred," he said in the letter.
              Dietderich said the firm's policies on the use of Al had not been followed when the document was prepared, and it was considering whether it needed to make "further enhancements" to its internal training and review processes.
              The letter did not say which lawyers prepared the documents or whether they were still at the firm. S&C declined to comment.
              #3
              nature
              NEWS FEATURE 01 April 2026
              Hallucinated citations are polluting the scientific literature. What can be done?
              Tens of thousands of publications from 2025 might include invalid references generated by Al, a Nature analysis suggests.
              By Miryam Naddaf & Elizabeth Quill

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              • ketan@climatejustice.socialK ketan@climatejustice.social

                Knowingly using a piece of software that *BY DESIGN* fabricates text is not "hallucination" - it is fraud. I'd be prosecuted if I sat down and invented references for submissions in a court case. I'd lose my job as an academic if I did the same for a paper. Someone explain why automating fraud has somehow made it completely fine and consequence-free?

                The very tiny remaining few of us who still give a crap about "not lying" need to fight to bring back real consequences for fraud, fabrication

                mrfoostang@foostang.xyzM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @ketan@climatejustice.social @tk@f.kawa-kun.com 💯

                The use of tool is irrelevant. These fuckers should be disbarred en masse.
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                • ketan@climatejustice.socialK ketan@climatejustice.social

                  Knowingly using a piece of software that *BY DESIGN* fabricates text is not "hallucination" - it is fraud. I'd be prosecuted if I sat down and invented references for submissions in a court case. I'd lose my job as an academic if I did the same for a paper. Someone explain why automating fraud has somehow made it completely fine and consequence-free?

                  The very tiny remaining few of us who still give a crap about "not lying" need to fight to bring back real consequences for fraud, fabrication

                  gudenau@hachyderm.ioG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @ketan isn't lying something that can get you disbarred?

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                  • anne_canada@mstdn.caA anne_canada@mstdn.ca

                    @ketan , its scientific literature. Check references before relying on them.

                    adriano@lile.clA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @Anne_Canada I'm sorry, but this is a profoundly asinine thing to say, and I shouldn't have to explain to you why, you should have never written it in the first place.

                    @ketan

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                    • ketan@climatejustice.socialK ketan@climatejustice.social

                      Knowingly using a piece of software that *BY DESIGN* fabricates text is not "hallucination" - it is fraud. I'd be prosecuted if I sat down and invented references for submissions in a court case. I'd lose my job as an academic if I did the same for a paper. Someone explain why automating fraud has somehow made it completely fine and consequence-free?

                      The very tiny remaining few of us who still give a crap about "not lying" need to fight to bring back real consequences for fraud, fabrication

                      jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @ketan

                      In Canada, lawyers now need to certify their facta contain only verified citations because this is such a problem. Too many lawyers are far too lazy.

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                      • adriano@lile.clA adriano@lile.cl

                        @Anne_Canada I'm sorry, but this is a profoundly asinine thing to say, and I shouldn't have to explain to you why, you should have never written it in the first place.

                        @ketan

                        anne_canada@mstdn.caA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @adriano @ketan , indeed. I get it. Please refrain from being arrogant.

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                        • anne_canada@mstdn.caA anne_canada@mstdn.ca

                          @adriano @ketan , indeed. I get it. Please refrain from being arrogant.

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                          @Anne_Canada If you think I was being arrogant, you clearly don't get it.

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                          • ketan@climatejustice.socialK ketan@climatejustice.social

                            Knowingly using a piece of software that *BY DESIGN* fabricates text is not "hallucination" - it is fraud. I'd be prosecuted if I sat down and invented references for submissions in a court case. I'd lose my job as an academic if I did the same for a paper. Someone explain why automating fraud has somehow made it completely fine and consequence-free?

                            The very tiny remaining few of us who still give a crap about "not lying" need to fight to bring back real consequences for fraud, fabrication

                            amici@fribygda.noA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @ketan there needs to be consequences for those who disregard the veracity of their statements in conduct of work, especially sensitive work with real heavy consequences for people and the natural environment

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