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  • hdv@front-end.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
    hdv@front-end.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Massive Attack mailing list: …
    Massive Attack website: … 
    Story on Massive Attack Instagram account: we're going on EU tour, please check our whatsapp community for updates

    What do you think causes non-tech people to choose walled, algorithmic gardens ran by right wing extremists over their own open, public websites?

    What can change this? #indieweb

    moritzglantz@mastodon.socialM hdv@front-end.socialH axeleroy@toot.communityA mdubbelm@mastodon.socialM decibyte@social.data.coopD 6 Replies Last reply
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    • hdv@front-end.socialH hdv@front-end.social

      Massive Attack mailing list: …
      Massive Attack website: … 
      Story on Massive Attack Instagram account: we're going on EU tour, please check our whatsapp community for updates

      What do you think causes non-tech people to choose walled, algorithmic gardens ran by right wing extremists over their own open, public websites?

      What can change this? #indieweb

      moritzglantz@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      moritzglantz@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      moritzglantz@mastodon.social
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      #2

      @hdv Ease of use and the network effect + “no cost”. “Everybody is there”.

      They should have RSS feeds for this.

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      • moritzglantz@mastodon.socialM moritzglantz@mastodon.social

        @hdv Ease of use and the network effect + “no cost”. “Everybody is there”.

        They should have RSS feeds for this.

        hdv@front-end.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
        hdv@front-end.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @MoritzGlantz but i wonder if everyone wants to be there, it's a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts

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        • hdv@front-end.socialH hdv@front-end.social

          @MoritzGlantz but i wonder if everyone wants to be there, it's a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts

          moritzglantz@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
          moritzglantz@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @hdv Good question. If you asked people if they wanted to be on a network that is free and that does not manipulate them, they may agree. But only if everybody else is there too…

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          • hdv@front-end.socialH hdv@front-end.social

            Massive Attack mailing list: …
            Massive Attack website: … 
            Story on Massive Attack Instagram account: we're going on EU tour, please check our whatsapp community for updates

            What do you think causes non-tech people to choose walled, algorithmic gardens ran by right wing extremists over their own open, public websites?

            What can change this? #indieweb

            hdv@front-end.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
            hdv@front-end.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            I'm thinking:

            1. better and easier to deploy authoring tools
            2. campaigning news websites / music venues to make an effort to find links to open sources before they link to walled gardens
            3. campaigning record labels / artists to post outside walled gardens
            4. campaigning search engines and chatbots to prefer links to outside walled gardens

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            • moritzglantz@mastodon.socialM moritzglantz@mastodon.social

              @hdv Good question. If you asked people if they wanted to be on a network that is free and that does not manipulate them, they may agree. But only if everybody else is there too…

              moritzglantz@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
              moritzglantz@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @hdv That is why I am a big supporter of the digital independence day, where people with some knowledge teach others how to leave places like that.
              And I have been thinking about building alternatives. The reality is most of the time: they already exist, but nobody knows/cares.

              #did (https://di.day/ German)

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              • hdv@front-end.socialH hdv@front-end.social

                Massive Attack mailing list: …
                Massive Attack website: … 
                Story on Massive Attack Instagram account: we're going on EU tour, please check our whatsapp community for updates

                What do you think causes non-tech people to choose walled, algorithmic gardens ran by right wing extremists over their own open, public websites?

                What can change this? #indieweb

                axeleroy@toot.communityA This user is from outside of this forum
                axeleroy@toot.communityA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @hdv I find it particularly ironic (and sad) given the band's political stance and previous issue with Meta following the Cambridge Analytica scandal.

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                • hdv@front-end.socialH hdv@front-end.social

                  Massive Attack mailing list: …
                  Massive Attack website: … 
                  Story on Massive Attack Instagram account: we're going on EU tour, please check our whatsapp community for updates

                  What do you think causes non-tech people to choose walled, algorithmic gardens ran by right wing extremists over their own open, public websites?

                  What can change this? #indieweb

                  mdubbelm@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                  mdubbelm@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @hdv ease of (perceived) visibility

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                  • hdv@front-end.socialH hdv@front-end.social

                    Massive Attack mailing list: …
                    Massive Attack website: … 
                    Story on Massive Attack Instagram account: we're going on EU tour, please check our whatsapp community for updates

                    What do you think causes non-tech people to choose walled, algorithmic gardens ran by right wing extremists over their own open, public websites?

                    What can change this? #indieweb

                    decibyte@social.data.coopD This user is from outside of this forum
                    decibyte@social.data.coopD This user is from outside of this forum
                    decibyte@social.data.coop
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                    #9

                    @hdv even more disappointing from a political act like Massive Attack. It seems the tour is managed by Live Nation which is equally disappointing 😕

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                    • hdv@front-end.socialH hdv@front-end.social

                      Massive Attack mailing list: …
                      Massive Attack website: … 
                      Story on Massive Attack Instagram account: we're going on EU tour, please check our whatsapp community for updates

                      What do you think causes non-tech people to choose walled, algorithmic gardens ran by right wing extremists over their own open, public websites?

                      What can change this? #indieweb

                      sgtpepere@ludosphere.frS This user is from outside of this forum
                      sgtpepere@ludosphere.frS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @hdv If no one complains about it, it won't change.

                      Maybe they suppose that their website / mailing list is useless and that everything is working perfectly. Maybe no one in the band is charged of getting in touch with the audience.

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