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  3. Our giant paper is out about the Large inclination Distant Object (LiDO) Survey!

Our giant paper is out about the Large inclination Distant Object (LiDO) Survey!

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    Sometimes TNOs show different behaviours in different parts of the orbital uncertainty. But most of the time our orbits were precise enough (and the phase space for different behaviours large enough) that the current dynamical behaviour of the real TNO is very clear.

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    Here's our new map of the outer Solar System: we detected and tracked 141 TNOs to high precision, 62 of which are in mean-motion resonances with Neptune.

    There's a tiny bit of science work testing a model of the hot classical belt orbital distribution, but we mostly want to save our science for separate papers, since this one was already SO long just with the survey and orbital classification descriptions.

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      Our giant paper is out about the Large inclination Distant Object (LiDO) Survey! https://arxiv.org/pdf/2610.19865

      This was a stunning amount of work and took us several years (including a visit to my farm by 2 of the other co-PIs where we alternated between patting goats, keeping our children happy, and sitting at my kitchen table writing text and writing code to make pretty figures). I'm so glad it's refereed and out in the world finally!

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      #9

      @sundogplanets very cool work! And such an excellent feeling when such long projects finally come together!

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        @hannorein My kitchen table is available for paper-writing anytime! Also my goats are happy to help with writing breaks.

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        #10

        @sundogplanets @hannorein nice draft...are you going to eat that?

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          Here's our new map of the outer Solar System: we detected and tracked 141 TNOs to high precision, 62 of which are in mean-motion resonances with Neptune.

          There's a tiny bit of science work testing a model of the hot classical belt orbital distribution, but we mostly want to save our science for separate papers, since this one was already SO long just with the survey and orbital classification descriptions.

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          #11

          The thing I'm most proud of from this paper: the co-authors include 5 students I directly supervised for undergrad research projects and 2 I supervised for grad research projects. Not bad for a professor at a university with no astronomy major!

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            The point of this survey was to find moderately high inclination TNOs, specifically, Plutinos in the 3:2 mean-motion resonance with Neptune that are also in the Kozai resonance. We picked 2 patches on the sky that we knew from models would probably have lots of these, and then tracked them over 3 years, to very high orbital precision, to make sure we could diagnose mean-motion resonances very accurately

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            #12

            @sundogplanets

            Very pretty picture!

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              The thing I'm most proud of from this paper: the co-authors include 5 students I directly supervised for undergrad research projects and 2 I supervised for grad research projects. Not bad for a professor at a university with no astronomy major!

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              #13

              We've got 2 other related papers out already from the survey results. One was this beast of a pretty-plot exercise looking at stability of the plutino resonant phase space: https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/PSJ/adc10c/pdf

              And one was looking at a super weird extremely distant TNO we discovered that's in the 10:1 mean-motion resonance with Neptune! It's resonances all the way out.... https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/PSJ/addd22/pdf

              More soon!

              Look at all the cool science we can do that will all get harder with more satellite streaks...

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                The thing I'm most proud of from this paper: the co-authors include 5 students I directly supervised for undergrad research projects and 2 I supervised for grad research projects. Not bad for a professor at a university with no astronomy major!

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                #14

                @sundogplanets Congratulations to everyone, and especially to you!

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                • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                  @sundogplanets very cool work! And such an excellent feeling when such long projects finally come together!

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                  #15

                  @vicgrinberg ESPECIALLY right before I have to submit a big grant proposal! "In press" sounds SO much better than "in review"

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    Our giant paper is out about the Large inclination Distant Object (LiDO) Survey! https://arxiv.org/pdf/2610.19865

                    This was a stunning amount of work and took us several years (including a visit to my farm by 2 of the other co-PIs where we alternated between patting goats, keeping our children happy, and sitting at my kitchen table writing text and writing code to make pretty figures). I'm so glad it's refereed and out in the world finally!

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                    #16

                    @sundogplanets Congrats!

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      Our giant paper is out about the Large inclination Distant Object (LiDO) Survey! https://arxiv.org/pdf/2610.19865

                      This was a stunning amount of work and took us several years (including a visit to my farm by 2 of the other co-PIs where we alternated between patting goats, keeping our children happy, and sitting at my kitchen table writing text and writing code to make pretty figures). I'm so glad it's refereed and out in the world finally!

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                      #17

                      @sundogplanets that actually sounds like a perfect way to write a paper.

                      I have kids and cuddly ducks and chickens, just have to invite the coworkers 😅

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        Here's our new map of the outer Solar System: we detected and tracked 141 TNOs to high precision, 62 of which are in mean-motion resonances with Neptune.

                        There's a tiny bit of science work testing a model of the hot classical belt orbital distribution, but we mostly want to save our science for separate papers, since this one was already SO long just with the survey and orbital classification descriptions.

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                        #18

                        @sundogplanets holy shit! actual scientists using plots that look a lot like the weirdest web app I ever built to look at asteroid data.

                        (Its entirely static files... don't ask if you don't want technical details. Also ignore the dead name in the footer, it shows how long its been since I updated it.)

                        https://parsecsreach.org/astro-grid/#Orbital-Eccentricity/Inclination-To-The-Ecliptic/gray

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                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                          @vicgrinberg ESPECIALLY right before I have to submit a big grant proposal! "In press" sounds SO much better than "in review"

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                          #19

                          @sundogplanets oh yes!

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            @hannorein My kitchen table is available for paper-writing anytime! Also my goats are happy to help with writing breaks.

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                            #20

                            @sundogplanets @hannorein when things go tits up down here can American academics escape to your farm

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                            • va2lam@mastodon.nzV va2lam@mastodon.nz

                              @sundogplanets congrats!

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                              #21

                              @va2lam @sundogplanets

                              Maybe worth contacting Dr Becky on YouTube and get this study some additional reporting? 🙂🤷‍♂️

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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                Our giant paper is out about the Large inclination Distant Object (LiDO) Survey! https://arxiv.org/pdf/2610.19865

                                This was a stunning amount of work and took us several years (including a visit to my farm by 2 of the other co-PIs where we alternated between patting goats, keeping our children happy, and sitting at my kitchen table writing text and writing code to make pretty figures). I'm so glad it's refereed and out in the world finally!

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                                #22

                                @sundogplanets kudos to persevering with data from pandemic-era observations, what a marathon! 🤯

                                I know it isn't the main purpose of the research, but I'm always fascinated not just by the numbers but even how big these bodies this far out can be. The Haumea-family ones y'all estimate at 30+ km (~ Arrokoth-size), maybe a few 100+km in the survey then, those with 6-7 abs magnitude? (This mpc conversion table applies to TNOs as well, right? https://minorplanetcenter.net/iau/lists/Sizes.html)

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  Our giant paper is out about the Large inclination Distant Object (LiDO) Survey! https://arxiv.org/pdf/2610.19865

                                  This was a stunning amount of work and took us several years (including a visit to my farm by 2 of the other co-PIs where we alternated between patting goats, keeping our children happy, and sitting at my kitchen table writing text and writing code to make pretty figures). I'm so glad it's refereed and out in the world finally!

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                                  #23

                                  @sundogplanets Congratulations!

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    We diagnosed resonances by taking clones of the TNOs' best-fit orbits within the orbital uncertainties, and integrating them forward for 30 million years using REBOUND, then carefully looking at the resonant angle of several nearby resonances to see if it's confined - we also looked for confinement (rather than circulation) of the argument of pericentre, since that's the key for Kozai libration

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                                    #24

                                    @sundogplanets

                                    Looks really cool! Something for me to think about, read about, and think some more! Fun!

                                    One question: what are the two different phi graphs?

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      The thing I'm most proud of from this paper: the co-authors include 5 students I directly supervised for undergrad research projects and 2 I supervised for grad research projects. Not bad for a professor at a university with no astronomy major!

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                                      #25

                                      @sundogplanets

                                      Congratulations! Proof that being in the hinterlands of your professional landscape can fire you up rather than put you out! (If you're made of the right stuff.)

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        We've got 2 other related papers out already from the survey results. One was this beast of a pretty-plot exercise looking at stability of the plutino resonant phase space: https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/PSJ/adc10c/pdf

                                        And one was looking at a super weird extremely distant TNO we discovered that's in the 10:1 mean-motion resonance with Neptune! It's resonances all the way out.... https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/PSJ/addd22/pdf

                                        More soon!

                                        Look at all the cool science we can do that will all get harder with more satellite streaks...

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                                        #26

                                        @sundogplanets

                                        Anything there to be done with a high-fidelity optical–NIR space telescope 2030+? We're starting to look into potential science cases to be done in a first Euclid mission extension from 2030 onward.

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          Our giant paper is out about the Large inclination Distant Object (LiDO) Survey! https://arxiv.org/pdf/2610.19865

                                          This was a stunning amount of work and took us several years (including a visit to my farm by 2 of the other co-PIs where we alternated between patting goats, keeping our children happy, and sitting at my kitchen table writing text and writing code to make pretty figures). I'm so glad it's refereed and out in the world finally!

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                                          #27

                                          @sundogplanets Woot! Congratulations! And so cool that you had students helping to write it!

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