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  • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

    To that, I will add: every news executive should be forced to consume the news in a stock browser with no adblock, no accessibility plugins, no Reader View, none of the add-ons that make reading the web bearable:

    https://pluralistic.net/2026/03/07/reader-mode/#personal-disenshittification

    But in all honesty, I fear this would not make much of a difference, because I suspect that the people who oversee the design of modern news sites *don't care about the news at all*.

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    They don't read the news, they don't consume the news. They *hate* the news. They view the news as a necessary evil within a wider gambit to deploy adware, malware, pop-ups, and auto-play video.

    Rawdogging a Yahoo News article means fighting through a forest of pop-ups, pop-unders, autoplay video, interrupters, consent screens, modal dialogs, modeless dialogs - a blizzard of news-obscuring crapware that oozes contempt for the material it befogs.

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      They don't read the news, they don't consume the news. They *hate* the news. They view the news as a necessary evil within a wider gambit to deploy adware, malware, pop-ups, and auto-play video.

      Rawdogging a Yahoo News article means fighting through a forest of pop-ups, pop-unders, autoplay video, interrupters, consent screens, modal dialogs, modeless dialogs - a blizzard of news-obscuring crapware that oozes contempt for the material it befogs.

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      Irrespective of the words and icons displayed in these DOM objects, they all carry the same message: "The news on this page *does not matter*."

      The owners of news services view the news as a necessary evil. They aren't a news organization: they are an annoying pop-up and cookie-setting factory with an inconvenient, vestigial news entity attached to it. News exists on sufferance, and if it was possible to do away with it altogether, the owners would.

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      • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

        Irrespective of the words and icons displayed in these DOM objects, they all carry the same message: "The news on this page *does not matter*."

        The owners of news services view the news as a necessary evil. They aren't a news organization: they are an annoying pop-up and cookie-setting factory with an inconvenient, vestigial news entity attached to it. News exists on sufferance, and if it was possible to do away with it altogether, the owners would.

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        That turns out to be the defining characteristic of work that is turned over to AI. Think of the rapid replacement of customer service call centers with AI. Long before companies shifted their customer service to AI chatbots, they shifted the work to overseas call centers where workers were prohibited from diverging from a script that made it all but impossible to resolve your problems:

        https://pluralistic.net/2025/08/06/unmerchantable-substitute-goods/#customer-disservice

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        • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

          That turns out to be the defining characteristic of work that is turned over to AI. Think of the rapid replacement of customer service call centers with AI. Long before companies shifted their customer service to AI chatbots, they shifted the work to overseas call centers where workers were prohibited from diverging from a script that made it all but impossible to resolve your problems:

          https://pluralistic.net/2025/08/06/unmerchantable-substitute-goods/#customer-disservice

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          These companies didn't want to do customer service in the first place, so they sent the work to India. Then, once it became possible to replace Indian call center workers who weren't allowed to solve your problems with chatbots that *couldn't* resolve your problems, they fired the Indian call center workers and replaced them with chatbots.

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          • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

            These companies didn't want to do customer service in the first place, so they sent the work to India. Then, once it became possible to replace Indian call center workers who weren't allowed to solve your problems with chatbots that *couldn't* resolve your problems, they fired the Indian call center workers and replaced them with chatbots.

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            Ironically, many of these chatbots turn out to be call center workers *pretending* to be chatbots (as the Indian tech joke goes, "AI stands for 'Absent Indians'"):

            https://pluralistic.net/2024/01/29/pay-no-attention/#to-the-little-man-behind-the-curtain

            "We used an AI to do this" is increasingly a way of saying, "We didn't want to do this in the first place and we don't care if it's done well."

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            • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

              Ironically, many of these chatbots turn out to be call center workers *pretending* to be chatbots (as the Indian tech joke goes, "AI stands for 'Absent Indians'"):

              https://pluralistic.net/2024/01/29/pay-no-attention/#to-the-little-man-behind-the-curtain

              "We used an AI to do this" is increasingly a way of saying, "We didn't want to do this in the first place and we don't care if it's done well."

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              That's why DOGE replaced the call center reps at US Customs and Immigration with a chatbot that tells you to read a PDF and then disconnects the call:

              https://pluralistic.net/2026/02/06/doge-ball/#n-600

              The Trump administration doesn't want to hear from immigrants who are trying to file their bewildering paperwork correctly.

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              • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

                That's why DOGE replaced the call center reps at US Customs and Immigration with a chatbot that tells you to read a PDF and then disconnects the call:

                https://pluralistic.net/2026/02/06/doge-ball/#n-600

                The Trump administration doesn't want to hear from immigrants who are trying to file their bewildering paperwork correctly.

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                Incorrect immigration paperwork is a feature, not a bug, since it can be refined into a pretext to kidnap someone, imprison them in a gulag long enough to line the pockets of a Beltway Bandit with a no-bid contract to operate an onshore black site, and then deport them to a country they have no connection with, generating a fat payout for another Beltway Bandit with the no-bid contract to fly kidnapped migrants to distant hellholes.

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                • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

                  Incorrect immigration paperwork is a feature, not a bug, since it can be refined into a pretext to kidnap someone, imprison them in a gulag long enough to line the pockets of a Beltway Bandit with a no-bid contract to operate an onshore black site, and then deport them to a country they have no connection with, generating a fat payout for another Beltway Bandit with the no-bid contract to fly kidnapped migrants to distant hellholes.

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                  If the purpose of a customer service department is to tell people to go fuck themselves, then a chatbot is obviously the most efficient way of delivering the service. It's not just that a chatbot charges less to tell people to go fuck themselves than a human being - the chatbot itself *means* "go fuck yourself." A chatbot is basically a "go fuck yourself" emoji. Perhaps this is why every AI icon looks like a butthole:

                  https://velvetshark.com/ai-company-logos-that-look-like-buttholes

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                    If the purpose of a customer service department is to tell people to go fuck themselves, then a chatbot is obviously the most efficient way of delivering the service. It's not just that a chatbot charges less to tell people to go fuck themselves than a human being - the chatbot itself *means* "go fuck yourself." A chatbot is basically a "go fuck yourself" emoji. Perhaps this is why every AI icon looks like a butthole:

                    https://velvetshark.com/ai-company-logos-that-look-like-buttholes

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                    It's no surprise that media bosses are enthusiastic about replacing writers with chatbots. They *hate* news and want it to go away. Outsourcing writing to AI is another way of devaluing it, adjacent to the enshittification that sees the news buried in popups, autoplays, consent dialogs, interrupters and the eleventy-million horrors that a stock browser with default settings will shove into your eyeballs on behalf of any webpage that demands them:

                    https://pluralistic.net/2024/05/07/treacherous-computing/#rewilding-the-internet

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                    • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

                      It's no surprise that media bosses are enthusiastic about replacing writers with chatbots. They *hate* news and want it to go away. Outsourcing writing to AI is another way of devaluing it, adjacent to the enshittification that sees the news buried in popups, autoplays, consent dialogs, interrupters and the eleventy-million horrors that a stock browser with default settings will shove into your eyeballs on behalf of any webpage that demands them:

                      https://pluralistic.net/2024/05/07/treacherous-computing/#rewilding-the-internet

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                      Remember that summer reading list that Hearst distributed to newspapers around the country, which turned out to be stuffed with "hallucinated" titles? At first, the internet delighted in dunking on Marco Buscaglia, the writer whose byline the list ran under.

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                        Remember that summer reading list that Hearst distributed to newspapers around the country, which turned out to be stuffed with "hallucinated" titles? At first, the internet delighted in dunking on Marco Buscaglia, the writer whose byline the list ran under.

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                        But as 404 Media's Jason Koebler unearthed, Buscaglia had been set up to fail, tasked with writing most of a 64-page insert that would have normally been the work of *dozens* of writers, editors and fact checkers, all on his own:

                        https://www.404media.co/chicago-sun-times-prints-ai-generated-summer-reading-list-with-books-that-dont-exist/

                        When Hearst hires one freelancer to do the work of dozens, they are saying, "We do not give a shit about the quality of this work." It is literally impossible for any writer to produce something *good* under those conditions.

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                        • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

                          But as 404 Media's Jason Koebler unearthed, Buscaglia had been set up to fail, tasked with writing most of a 64-page insert that would have normally been the work of *dozens* of writers, editors and fact checkers, all on his own:

                          https://www.404media.co/chicago-sun-times-prints-ai-generated-summer-reading-list-with-books-that-dont-exist/

                          When Hearst hires one freelancer to do the work of dozens, they are saying, "We do not give a shit about the quality of this work." It is literally impossible for any writer to produce something *good* under those conditions.

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                          The purpose of Hearst's syndicated summer guide was to bulk out the newspapers that had been stripmined by their corporate owners, slimmed down to a handful of pages that are mostly ads and wire-service copy. The mere fact that this supplement was handed to a single freelancer blares "Go fuck yourself" long before you clap eyes on the actual words printed on the pages.

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                            For these AI boosters, the point isn't to create an AI that can do the work as well as a person - it's to condition the world to accept the lower-quality work that will come from a chatbot. Rather than reading a summer reading list of *actual books*, perhaps you could be satisfied with a summer reading list of *hallucinated books* that are at least statistically probable book-shaped imaginaries?

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                              For these AI boosters, the point isn't to create an AI that can do the work as well as a person - it's to condition the world to accept the lower-quality work that will come from a chatbot. Rather than reading a summer reading list of *actual books*, perhaps you could be satisfied with a summer reading list of *hallucinated books* that are at least statistically probable book-shaped imaginaries?

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                              The bosses dreaming up use-cases for AI start from a posture of profound and proud ignorance of how workers who do useful things operate. They ask themselves, "If I was a ______, how would I do the job?" and then they ask an AI to do that, and declare the job done. They produce utility-shaped statistical artifacts, not utilities.

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                                The bosses dreaming up use-cases for AI start from a posture of profound and proud ignorance of how workers who do useful things operate. They ask themselves, "If I was a ______, how would I do the job?" and then they ask an AI to do that, and declare the job done. They produce utility-shaped statistical artifacts, not utilities.

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                                Take Grammarly, a company that offers statistical inferences about likely errors in your text. Grammar checkers aren't a terrible idea on their face, and I've heard from many people who struggle to express themselves in writing (either because of their communications style, or because they don't speak English as a first language) for whom apps like Grammarly are useful.

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                                  Take Grammarly, a company that offers statistical inferences about likely errors in your text. Grammar checkers aren't a terrible idea on their face, and I've heard from many people who struggle to express themselves in writing (either because of their communications style, or because they don't speak English as a first language) for whom apps like Grammarly are useful.

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                                  But Grammarly has just rolled out an AI tool that is so obviously contemptuous of writing that they might as well have called it "Go fuck yourself, by Grammarly." The new product is called "Expert Review," and it promises to give you writing advice "inspired" by writers whose writing they have ingested. I am one of these virtual "writing teachers" you can pay Grammarly for:

                                  https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/890921/grammarly-ai-expert-reviews

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                                    But Grammarly has just rolled out an AI tool that is so obviously contemptuous of writing that they might as well have called it "Go fuck yourself, by Grammarly." The new product is called "Expert Review," and it promises to give you writing advice "inspired" by writers whose writing they have ingested. I am one of these virtual "writing teachers" you can pay Grammarly for:

                                    https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/890921/grammarly-ai-expert-reviews

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                                    This is not how writing advice works. When I teach the Clarion Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers' workshop, my job isn't to train the students to produce work that is strongly statistically correlated with the sentence structure and word choices in my own writing. My job - the job of *any* writing teacher - is to try and understand the *student's* writing style and artistic intent, and to provide advice for developing that style to express that intent.

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                                      #25

                                      Even if you want to write a pastiche in the style of some writer you admire (or want to send up), word choices and sentence structure are only incidental to capturing that writer's style. To reduce "style" to "stylometry" is to commit the cardinal sin of technical analysis: namely, incinerating all the squishy qualitative aspects that can't be readily fed into a model and doing math on the resulting dubious quantitative residue:

                                      https://locusmag.com/feature/cory-doctorow-qualia/

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                                      • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

                                        Even if you want to write a pastiche in the style of some writer you admire (or want to send up), word choices and sentence structure are only incidental to capturing that writer's style. To reduce "style" to "stylometry" is to commit the cardinal sin of technical analysis: namely, incinerating all the squishy qualitative aspects that can't be readily fed into a model and doing math on the resulting dubious quantitative residue:

                                        https://locusmag.com/feature/cory-doctorow-qualia/

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                                        If you wanted to teach a chatbot to *teach* writing like a writer, you would - at a minimum - have to train that chatbot on the *instruction* that writer gives, not the material that writer has published. Nor can you infer how a writer would speak to a student by producing a statistical model of the finished work that writer has published. "Published work" has only an incidental relationship to "pedagogical communication."

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                                          If you wanted to teach a chatbot to *teach* writing like a writer, you would - at a minimum - have to train that chatbot on the *instruction* that writer gives, not the material that writer has published. Nor can you infer how a writer would speak to a student by producing a statistical model of the finished work that writer has published. "Published work" has only an incidental relationship to "pedagogical communication."

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                                          Critics of Grammarly are mostly focused on the effrontery of using writers' names without their permission. But I'm not bothered by that, honestly. So long as no one is being tricked into thinking that I endorsed a product or service, you don't need my permission to say that I inspired it (even if I think it's shit).

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