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  3. i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

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  • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

    i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

    (not emacs or vim)

    krans@mastodon.me.ukK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #3

    @b0rk Does Emacs count?

    b0rk@social.jvns.caB 1 Reply Last reply
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    • krans@mastodon.me.ukK krans@mastodon.me.uk

      @b0rk Does Emacs count?

      b0rk@social.jvns.caB This user is from outside of this forum
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      #4

      @krans i'm happy for emacs users but I am never going to use emacs so no 🙂

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      • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

        i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

        (not emacs or vim)

        snoopj@hachyderm.ioS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #5

        @b0rk there's GNU `info` but I think you were probably asking about *good* ones 😖

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        • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

          i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

          (not emacs or vim)

          onorio@mastodon.acm.orgO This user is from outside of this forum
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          #6

          @b0rk May be some stuff worth trying here: https://alternativeto.net/software/linux-man-pages/ (Full disclosure--just found the article--I haven't tried the alternatives.)

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          • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

            i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

            (not emacs or vim)

            jsalvador@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #7

            @b0rk man $1 | lolcat

            Fancy ✨️

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            • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

              i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

              (not emacs or vim)

              anotherposter@shitposter.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #8
              @b0rk standalone `info` displays man pages with hyperlinks, regex search, normal search and a bunch of features
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              • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                (not emacs or vim)

                fabio@zirk.usF This user is from outside of this forum
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                #9

                @b0rk there's a script to use bat for man pages (aptly called batman) https://github.com/eth-p/bat-extras, for syntax highlighting and some other stuff

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                • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                  i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                  (not emacs or vim)

                  quaff@thecanadian.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #10

                  @b0rk I've been using tldr pages instead of man recently: https://github.com/tldr-pages/tldr-python-client?tab=readme-ov-file

                  Works pretty well and looks nice!

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                  • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                    i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                    (not emacs or vim)

                    phred@weirder.earthP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #11

                    @b0rk bat can give a colorized version of manpages which is, to me at least, a /little/ fancy. https://github.com/sharkdp/bat/issues/1433

                    GNU info is supposed to supplement/replace man on some systems but I have general frustration whenever I end up in an info viewer. (It’s emacs~ish but somehow even less friendly)

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                    • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                      i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                      (not emacs or vim)

                      tomi@mamot.frT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #12

                      @b0rk related but maybe outside of the scope of your question: I have tried to fire woman (mode from emacs) once. But it wasn't as straightforward as thought and I didn't dig further. As I spent more and more time in emacs, I used woman directly and had less need to implement the "trick".

                      The reason, because there is one except for using emacs itself 😉 is to have the ability to see and navigate the page with a menu and perform search, and filters with tools like Occur that I'm familiar with.

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                      • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                        i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                        (not emacs or vim)

                        rjbs@social.semiotic.systemsR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #13

                        @b0rk Ugggggh if you find a good answer, please repost it with a bright red light. I think the biggest issue is that the roff format is too bankrupt, and we need better linking primitives, but… I might just be jaded.

                        aerique@genart.socialA milo@types.plM fanf@mendeddrum.orgF 3 Replies Last reply
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                        • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                          i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                          (not emacs or vim)

                          acut3@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #14

                          @b0rk I use man with MANPAGER set to `less -ic --use-color -Dd+g -Duc`. Not super fancy, but has a few colors.

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                          • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                            i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                            (not emacs or vim)

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                            #15

                            @b0rk there are too many to list. `yelp` (Gnome Help) comes to mind. `tldr` is a different approach. Then there are "smart" terminals, integrations, and a host of other things all trying to help us execute commands properly.

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                            • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                              i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                              (not emacs or vim)

                              notecharlie@social.bigcavemaps.comN This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #16

                              @b0rk I guess there's gnu's `info`... And of course each `man` implementation is different; I'm partial to openbsd's, but it is the antithesis of fancy.

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                              • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                                (not emacs or vim)

                                ladytel@masto.hackers.townL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #17

                                @b0rk I use batman. It has colors and syntax highlighting

                                https://github.com/eth-p/bat-extras/blob/master/doc/batman.md

                                Edit: should have read the replies to not be caller number 5 linking to the same thing

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                                • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                  @krans i'm happy for emacs users but I am never going to use emacs so no 🙂

                                  aerique@genart.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #18

                                  @b0rk @krans Girl!

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                                  • rjbs@social.semiotic.systemsR rjbs@social.semiotic.systems

                                    @b0rk Ugggggh if you find a good answer, please repost it with a bright red light. I think the biggest issue is that the roff format is too bankrupt, and we need better linking primitives, but… I might just be jaded.

                                    aerique@genart.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #19

                                    @rjbs @b0rk So we first need to convert roff to something useful?

                                    (As someone who wrote an RTF to XML converter once in XSLT and Java I am not volunteering.)

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                                    • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                      i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                                      (not emacs or vim)

                                      gduchaussois@mastodon.xyzG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #20

                                      @b0rk batman from bat ?

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                                      • aerique@genart.socialA aerique@genart.social

                                        @rjbs @b0rk So we first need to convert roff to something useful?

                                        (As someone who wrote an RTF to XML converter once in XSLT and Java I am not volunteering.)

                                        rjbs@social.semiotic.systemsR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #21

                                        @aerique @b0rk A tool that consumes roff will (I believe) never be good. (We could change roff but no.) We want a tool that reads something better and can fall back to roff. We can't convert roff-to-gooddoc.

                                        Texinfo was meant to be that, but (I would say) failed. A subset of HTML could replace it. (And Texinfo can compile to HTML.) You'd then want a tool that know how to find the html for a given command/name.

                                        It's "easy" except for the xkcd 927 problem. Sorry, this is not constructive.

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                                        • b0rk@social.jvns.caB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #22

                                          @doekman it's so nice! my dream is that somehow someone has made something like that for the terminal

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