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  3. Welcome to the #LongestTrainEU #CrossBorderRail record breaking thread!

Welcome to the #LongestTrainEU #CrossBorderRail record breaking thread!

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    Welcome to the #LongestTrainEU #CrossBorderRail record breaking thread!

    This train journey starts in Kemijärvi 🇫🇮 and ends in Lagos 🇵🇹

    18 trains, 100 hours 9 minutes, 4008km as the crow flies, 6281 route-km

    The background to this project is here:
    https://longestjourney.crossborderrail.eu/

    And the live tracking throughout is here:
    https://longestjourneylive.crossborderrail.eu/

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    #68

    @jon Can we republish pictures from your trip on https://www.bonjourtchoutchou.fr/ and @BonjourTchoutchou ? (with attribution / license)

    It's a hobby website made by train nerds for train nerds.

    In any case, have a nice trip!

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    • bellinghman@wandering.shopB bellinghman@wandering.shop

      @jon Some trains (for me, often TGVs) just block GPS - the signal just doesn't make it through whatever coating there is on their windows

      There's being so far north that the number of satellites above the horizon is low, which means fewer with strong signals, which means train infrastructure may leave too few for your phone to do the 3D geometric calculations properly

      And then there's WiFi assisted GPS, which sees your train WiFi and goes "Oh, that network ID? Forget satellites, Stockholm!"

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      #69

      @bellinghman Yes, but I even went between the carriages where normally you overcome that window problem and even that didn't work

      Anyway it is back working now. Let's see how it goes tomorrow!

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      • zorun@social.atypique.netZ zorun@social.atypique.net

        @jon Can we republish pictures from your trip on https://www.bonjourtchoutchou.fr/ and @BonjourTchoutchou ? (with attribution / license)

        It's a hobby website made by train nerds for train nerds.

        In any case, have a nice trip!

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        #70

        @zorun @BonjourTchoutchou Absolutely! And any pics I have on Flickr too.

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          Can some Finn please explain this road sign seen in Kemijärvi earlier?

          Is it "you will only hit elk on the roads in half of Finland"? Is there some elk wall across the middle of the country?

          EDIT: OK, it's a reindeer herding area

          But I have questions!

          The antlers on that sign are wrong.

          And given I was a LONG way into the area, why do I need the map?

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          #71

          So that was Day 1 #LongestTrainEU #CrossBorderRail

          Here's today's summary video from Kemi

          https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/62Qy6xoKZXMUecPKx31a6s

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            So that was Day 1 #LongestTrainEU #CrossBorderRail

            Here's today's summary video from Kemi

            https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/62Qy6xoKZXMUecPKx31a6s

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            #72

            And finally a few photos from the day

            petes_bread_eqn_xls@mastodo.neoliber.alP jon@gruene.socialJ 2 Replies Last reply
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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              And finally a few photos from the day

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              #73

              @jon oh god, AI is coming for the trains!

              matt_jarvin@eliitin-some.fiM samy@eupolicy.socialS drgroftehauge@sigmoid.socialD 3 Replies Last reply
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              • petes_bread_eqn_xls@mastodo.neoliber.alP petes_bread_eqn_xls@mastodo.neoliber.al

                @jon oh god, AI is coming for the trains!

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                #74

                @petes_bread_eqn_xls @jon

                No, that's vr technology from a long ago 🙂

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                • petes_bread_eqn_xls@mastodo.neoliber.alP petes_bread_eqn_xls@mastodo.neoliber.al

                  @jon oh god, AI is coming for the trains!

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                  #75

                  @petes_bread_eqn_xls @jon
                  That was my first thought, too! Was this thing designed by AI? 😬

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                  • matt_jarvin@eliitin-some.fiM matt_jarvin@eliitin-some.fi

                    @petes_bread_eqn_xls @jon

                    No, that's vr technology from a long ago 🙂

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                    #76

                    @matt_jarvin @petes_bread_eqn_xls I agree it is not AI as it's old, but what's the story behind it?

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      So that was Day 1 #LongestTrainEU #CrossBorderRail

                      Here's today's summary video from Kemi

                      https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/62Qy6xoKZXMUecPKx31a6s

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                      #77

                      @jon A Czech transportation web bulletin the Zdopravy.cz noticed your #LongestTrainEU : https://zdopravy.cz/6282-km-ze-severu-finska-na-jih-portugalska-zeleznicni-influencer-se-vydal-nejdelsi-moznou-trasu-v-eu-298396/

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        @matt_jarvin @petes_bread_eqn_xls I agree it is not AI as it's old, but what's the story behind it?

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                        #78

                        @jon @matt_jarvin @petes_bread_eqn_xls It’s just a joke by the designer Arto Kukkasniemi.

                        YLE article in Finnish (from 2006)

                        https://yle.fi/aihe/a/20-24799

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          @bellinghman Yes, but I even went between the carriages where normally you overcome that window problem and even that didn't work

                          Anyway it is back working now. Let's see how it goes tomorrow!

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                          #79

                          @jon Let's hope so

                          I've been on ships where the phone GPS thought I was in Sweden when actually off the north coast of Norway, because of that assisted GPS thing believing Google Street View regarding network locations

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                          • nheg@mamutovo.czN nheg@mamutovo.cz

                            @jon A Czech transportation web bulletin the Zdopravy.cz noticed your #LongestTrainEU : https://zdopravy.cz/6282-km-ze-severu-finska-na-jih-portugalska-zeleznicni-influencer-se-vydal-nejdelsi-moznou-trasu-v-eu-298396/

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                            #80

                            @Nheg Yes, this popped up in my RSS feeds 🙂 I didn't even talk to them - they just took the press release!

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                            • bellinghman@wandering.shopB bellinghman@wandering.shop

                              @jon Let's hope so

                              I've been on ships where the phone GPS thought I was in Sweden when actually off the north coast of Norway, because of that assisted GPS thing believing Google Street View regarding network locations

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                              #81

                              @jon FWIW I have an Android app on my phone named GPS Status (ad supported) that displays what satellites are in view. Right now right here, 71 satellites with 45 fixes. Up in Alaska last year, getting far fewer

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                And finally a few photos from the day

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                                #82

                                And why there is a 6 finger hand on the train door, thanks to @saruwine - 2006 article https://yle.fi/aihe/a/20-24799

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                                • bellinghman@wandering.shopB bellinghman@wandering.shop

                                  @jon FWIW I have an Android app on my phone named GPS Status (ad supported) that displays what satellites are in view. Right now right here, 71 satellites with 45 fixes. Up in Alaska last year, getting far fewer

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                                  #83

                                  @bellinghman Ah that's a handy idea. Will explore tomorrow! Thank you!

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    And why there is a 6 finger hand on the train door, thanks to @saruwine - 2006 article https://yle.fi/aihe/a/20-24799

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                                    #84

                                    This is the data discrepancy between the screen at Kemi (no train to Haparanda shown tomorrow) and Finntraffic's website where a train is shown (and it is on VR's site too)

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      This is the data discrepancy between the screen at Kemi (no train to Haparanda shown tomorrow) and Finntraffic's website where a train is shown (and it is on VR's site too)

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                                      #85

                                      @jon I like how you haven’t even crossed the first border and it’s already apparent why my proposal for the tracking was stupid 🙂

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        This is the data discrepancy between the screen at Kemi (no train to Haparanda shown tomorrow) and Finntraffic's website where a train is shown (and it is on VR's site too)

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                                        #86

                                        @jon Were there station staff to ask about the train, to confirm Finntraffic and VR’s live data?

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                                        • h0m54r@mastodon.socialH h0m54r@mastodon.social

                                          @jon Were there station staff to ask about the train, to confirm Finntraffic and VR’s live data?

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                                          #87

                                          @h0m54r I didn't go searching. The waiting room was open, but I didn't see anyone. I just trust the Finntraffic and VR websites more than the screen!

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